• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:51
CET 06:51
KST 14:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced11[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest RSL Revival: Season 3 Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Which season is the best in ASL? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1250 users

#challenge - max out zerg with only drones - Page 2

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-04 10:16:27
September 04 2019 10:16 GMT
#21
i supply blocked a couple of times and didnt make hatches quick enough once I had like 4 bases going. 1st try 10:28
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
September 04 2019 10:28 GMT
#22
Did it again with terran and got 9:56 I made like 2 timing mistakes with sending SCV out to make a base when I didnt have enough money because maynarding and my first depot got fumbled up in the line and was a bit late.
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
September 04 2019 10:29 GMT
#23
I think maybe best 3rd base to take is another main since there are more crystals and better formation.

So overlord>nat>main>hatch at that main>3rd>hatch at 3rd
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10246 Posts
September 04 2019 17:04 GMT
#24
On September 04 2019 19:29 MarlieChurphy wrote:
I think maybe best 3rd base to take is another main since there are more crystals and better formation.

So overlord>nat>main>hatch at that main>3rd>hatch at 3rd

Travel distance would be a concern then, no? Especially since it will take a while to saturate there, as travel distance again would impact any transferring you do. I don't think it's necessarily the best option.

A more important question is, IMO, what build to open with. For example, I did Over 10 Hatch to get that earlier larva production from a second Hatch/base. I hit 9:45 with a slight supply block at one point on the first run through, haven't compared it to 12 Hatch or something similar. Perhaps someone who is doing this more can play around with the different openings.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
September 04 2019 19:11 GMT
#25
On September 05 2019 02:04 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2019 19:29 MarlieChurphy wrote:
I think maybe best 3rd base to take is another main since there are more crystals and better formation.

So overlord>nat>main>hatch at that main>3rd>hatch at 3rd

Travel distance would be a concern then, no? Especially since it will take a while to saturate there, as travel distance again would impact any transferring you do. I don't think it's necessarily the best option.

A more important question is, IMO, what build to open with. For example, I did Over 10 Hatch to get that earlier larva production from a second Hatch/base. I hit 9:45 with a slight supply block at one point on the first run through, haven't compared it to 12 Hatch or something similar. Perhaps someone who is doing this more can play around with the different openings.


yea i couldnt time the 3rd base corectly and ended up making 3rd hatch in nat, and 4th at a main, 5th there as well, 6th at 3rd. ended up getting 10:14

My opening is always 10/9 overlord, 12 hatch.
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
September 05 2019 04:16 GMT
#26
Been trying with terran and 9:14 is the best I could do, hit that time several times, no idea how someone did it in 8:45 on the other thread lol
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10246 Posts
September 05 2019 04:42 GMT
#27
On September 05 2019 13:16 LG)Sabbath wrote:
Been trying with terran and 9:14 is the best I could do, hit that time several times, no idea how someone did it in 8:45 on the other thread lol

Probably Vultures.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-05 07:50:42
September 05 2019 07:03 GMT
#28
got like 9:47 on first attempt. like others i was not used to needing to add so many hatcheries.

Edit: Tried adding hatcheries earlier but could not get less than 9:36 in next few attempts. I added them faster but cut very few drones in the process. I suspect the optimal way to do it involves cutting multiple drones and adding many many hatcheries at around 5 minutes.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
September 05 2019 22:56 GMT
#29
On September 05 2019 16:03 Anc13nt wrote:
got like 9:47 on first attempt. like others i was not used to needing to add so many hatcheries.

Edit: Tried adding hatcheries earlier but could not get less than 9:36 in next few attempts. I added them faster but cut very few drones in the process. I suspect the optimal way to do it involves cutting multiple drones and adding many many hatcheries at around 5 minutes.

What BO did you use? I never could get less than 9:45
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 06:53:51
September 06 2019 04:05 GMT
#30
On September 06 2019 07:56 LG)Sabbath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2019 16:03 Anc13nt wrote:
got like 9:47 on first attempt. like others i was not used to needing to add so many hatcheries.

Edit: Tried adding hatcheries earlier but could not get less than 9:36 in next few attempts. I added them faster but cut very few drones in the process. I suspect the optimal way to do it involves cutting multiple drones and adding many many hatcheries at around 5 minutes.

What BO did you use? I never could get less than 9:45


honestly i didnt really have build but at around 5 minutes-ish i prioritized making hatcheries over drone (i would keep making hatcheries and only make drones when I felt there was soon to be 3 larva for the hatchery). Also I got 5 bases and made a bunch of hatcheries between the natural and third so i could send drones with less distance and ctrl click many larva. After 100 something supply it's not as important to send drones because you reach basically max saturation already so it's more important that you spend every larva asap.

edit: on my 5th try i got 9:30 by cutting many drones and building macro hatcheries up to almost 8 minutes (afterwards i thought that they would not be worth it because it take 75s to build and time to create enough larva to compensate for lost drone). my macro optimization and speed are not very good (i'm more of a micro player), so I have feeling that the absolute fastest is probably around 9 minutes.
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft565
RuFF_SC2 183
Nina 117
StarCraft: Brood War
Noble 22
IntoTheRainbow 6
Dota 2
XaKoH 728
monkeys_forever523
NeuroSwarm181
Other Games
summit1g15290
ViBE62
Mew2King33
trigger1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1433
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream222
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH145
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 35
• Diggity6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1571
Other Games
• Scarra1472
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 9m
NightMare vs YoungYakov
Krystianer vs Classic
ByuN vs Shameless
SKillous vs Percival
WardiTV Korean Royale
6h 9m
Zoun vs SHIN
TBD vs Reynor
TBD vs herO
Solar vs TBD
BSL 21
14h 9m
Hawk vs Kyrie
spx vs Cross
Replay Cast
18h 9m
Wardi Open
1d 6h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 11h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Wardi Open
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.