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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-04 10:16:27
September 04 2019 10:16 GMT
#21
i supply blocked a couple of times and didnt make hatches quick enough once I had like 4 bases going. 1st try 10:28
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
September 04 2019 10:28 GMT
#22
Did it again with terran and got 9:56 I made like 2 timing mistakes with sending SCV out to make a base when I didnt have enough money because maynarding and my first depot got fumbled up in the line and was a bit late.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
September 04 2019 10:29 GMT
#23
I think maybe best 3rd base to take is another main since there are more crystals and better formation.

So overlord>nat>main>hatch at that main>3rd>hatch at 3rd
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10357 Posts
September 04 2019 17:04 GMT
#24
On September 04 2019 19:29 MarlieChurphy wrote:
I think maybe best 3rd base to take is another main since there are more crystals and better formation.

So overlord>nat>main>hatch at that main>3rd>hatch at 3rd

Travel distance would be a concern then, no? Especially since it will take a while to saturate there, as travel distance again would impact any transferring you do. I don't think it's necessarily the best option.

A more important question is, IMO, what build to open with. For example, I did Over 10 Hatch to get that earlier larva production from a second Hatch/base. I hit 9:45 with a slight supply block at one point on the first run through, haven't compared it to 12 Hatch or something similar. Perhaps someone who is doing this more can play around with the different openings.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
September 04 2019 19:11 GMT
#25
On September 05 2019 02:04 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2019 19:29 MarlieChurphy wrote:
I think maybe best 3rd base to take is another main since there are more crystals and better formation.

So overlord>nat>main>hatch at that main>3rd>hatch at 3rd

Travel distance would be a concern then, no? Especially since it will take a while to saturate there, as travel distance again would impact any transferring you do. I don't think it's necessarily the best option.

A more important question is, IMO, what build to open with. For example, I did Over 10 Hatch to get that earlier larva production from a second Hatch/base. I hit 9:45 with a slight supply block at one point on the first run through, haven't compared it to 12 Hatch or something similar. Perhaps someone who is doing this more can play around with the different openings.


yea i couldnt time the 3rd base corectly and ended up making 3rd hatch in nat, and 4th at a main, 5th there as well, 6th at 3rd. ended up getting 10:14

My opening is always 10/9 overlord, 12 hatch.
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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
September 05 2019 04:16 GMT
#26
Been trying with terran and 9:14 is the best I could do, hit that time several times, no idea how someone did it in 8:45 on the other thread lol
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10357 Posts
September 05 2019 04:42 GMT
#27
On September 05 2019 13:16 LG)Sabbath wrote:
Been trying with terran and 9:14 is the best I could do, hit that time several times, no idea how someone did it in 8:45 on the other thread lol

Probably Vultures.
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-05 07:50:42
September 05 2019 07:03 GMT
#28
got like 9:47 on first attempt. like others i was not used to needing to add so many hatcheries.

Edit: Tried adding hatcheries earlier but could not get less than 9:36 in next few attempts. I added them faster but cut very few drones in the process. I suspect the optimal way to do it involves cutting multiple drones and adding many many hatcheries at around 5 minutes.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
September 05 2019 22:56 GMT
#29
On September 05 2019 16:03 Anc13nt wrote:
got like 9:47 on first attempt. like others i was not used to needing to add so many hatcheries.

Edit: Tried adding hatcheries earlier but could not get less than 9:36 in next few attempts. I added them faster but cut very few drones in the process. I suspect the optimal way to do it involves cutting multiple drones and adding many many hatcheries at around 5 minutes.

What BO did you use? I never could get less than 9:45
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 06:53:51
September 06 2019 04:05 GMT
#30
On September 06 2019 07:56 LG)Sabbath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2019 16:03 Anc13nt wrote:
got like 9:47 on first attempt. like others i was not used to needing to add so many hatcheries.

Edit: Tried adding hatcheries earlier but could not get less than 9:36 in next few attempts. I added them faster but cut very few drones in the process. I suspect the optimal way to do it involves cutting multiple drones and adding many many hatcheries at around 5 minutes.

What BO did you use? I never could get less than 9:45


honestly i didnt really have build but at around 5 minutes-ish i prioritized making hatcheries over drone (i would keep making hatcheries and only make drones when I felt there was soon to be 3 larva for the hatchery). Also I got 5 bases and made a bunch of hatcheries between the natural and third so i could send drones with less distance and ctrl click many larva. After 100 something supply it's not as important to send drones because you reach basically max saturation already so it's more important that you spend every larva asap.

edit: on my 5th try i got 9:30 by cutting many drones and building macro hatcheries up to almost 8 minutes (afterwards i thought that they would not be worth it because it take 75s to build and time to create enough larva to compensate for lost drone). my macro optimization and speed are not very good (i'm more of a micro player), so I have feeling that the absolute fastest is probably around 9 minutes.
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