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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
March 16 2007 20:02 GMT
#161
nice nice ^^
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
March 16 2007 21:41 GMT
#162
On March 16 2007 14:49 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Dont you ever do 11 rax / 14 rax -> exp. that way when your second rax is finnished and u have made 2 rine from 1st rax your scv building the second rax can go directly to exp and you will have 400 exactly when it arrives:D

Also, when you use tanks target goons.. u said 12 tanks if i understood correctly.. do you target goons with all 12 tanks? that way the first shot on the first goon will be waste, wont it?

sry if this thing about the tanks was asked before i didnt read all the posts before posting my own:D

also to answer the questions about why 12rax12ref its coz you wont be able to make your factory faster if u make 10 rax anyway.. and its the time to get up factory that matters most. This way you will get it a few seconds earlier and also alittle better econ and therefor its the better choise.
but wouldnt it be better to have rax done and rine out for those p's who like to send 2 to 3 lots be4 goon
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
March 17 2007 01:21 GMT
#163
usually you do not have to put 10rax vs zealrush, if you think its coming then make rine before u start the factory and in case he doublegate zeal u then put a bunker and make a vult:O
If there is a ramp then block with scvs and rine behind and you should be fine vs zealot rushes..
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Bebej.x3[SU]
Profile Joined May 2007
1 Post
May 10 2007 11:12 GMT
#164
Rawr, I need some help with my t. :/
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Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
May 10 2007 11:27 GMT
#165
On May 10 2007 20:12 Bebej.x3[SU] wrote:
Rawr, I need some help with my t. :/

so, why did you post this?
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
May 10 2007 13:51 GMT
#166
nice bump ....
im deaf
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
May 10 2007 14:23 GMT
#167
nice bump ....
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unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
May 10 2007 14:29 GMT
#168
thanks for the tips...i think i've improved already =P
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LySin
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States267 Posts
May 10 2007 16:01 GMT
#169
On March 16 2007 11:25 himurakenshin wrote:
First of all thank you Daze for this nice guide.

I was wondering why is the metal build order 12rax/12gas instead of 10rax 12 gas? What is the use of delaying the rax?


Damn i wanted to reply to this sooner but i was temp banned 1 week _ _. i had been curious about this when Daze first posted this, but i didn't want to reply to this because i thought i had known. well it turned out that i was wrong, and when i asked someone on Bnet they told me oov started this trend

it didn't make sense, so i timed both of them, and it turns out that it's 10 secs earlier than the previous one (that's if you are able to complete it without errors). also, it helps to prevent gas stealers from building on your gas.

as for the zealot rush problem: if you are unable to prevent a zealot rush with this BO, then you were unable to prevent it from the old one.
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WastedYouth
Profile Joined March 2006
United States563 Posts
May 11 2007 00:34 GMT
#170
On May 11 2007 01:01 LySin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2007 11:25 himurakenshin wrote:
First of all thank you Daze for this nice guide.

I was wondering why is the metal build order 12rax/12gas instead of 10rax 12 gas? What is the use of delaying the rax?


Damn i wanted to reply to this sooner but i was temp banned 1 week _ _. i had been curious about this when Daze first posted this, but i didn't want to reply to this because i thought i had known. well it turned out that i was wrong, and when i asked someone on Bnet they told me oov started this trend

it didn't make sense, so i timed both of them, and it turns out that it's 10 secs earlier than the previous one (that's if you are able to complete it without errors). also, it helps to prevent gas stealers from building on your gas.

as for the zealot rush problem: if you are unable to prevent a zealot rush with this BO, then you were unable to prevent it from the old one.


Ya I like it because if you're getting a 2nd depot before fact anyway it works out. Also when the scv finishes with the rax you can use the same one to build the fact which might save you 8 minerals and some effort.

I don't think it makes much of a difference overall though
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28727 Posts
May 11 2007 01:27 GMT
#171
superb!
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
May 11 2007 03:11 GMT
#172
On May 11 2007 10:27 Liquid`Drone wrote:
superb!


We should make an entire thread just dedicated to praising DaZe
^-^
HJLOVE168
Profile Joined September 2007
China7 Posts
September 21 2007 02:08 GMT
#173
THANKS VERY MUCH.
Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
September 21 2007 04:26 GMT
#174
why was this bumped.....
to miss the mark
Profile Joined November 2005
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
September 21 2007 04:40 GMT
#175
On September 21 2007 13:26 Aux1 wrote:
why was this bumped.....

because it's one of the best strategy threads on this forum, and it deserves to be.

that and he didn't notice that this thread is old.
oops, still a nice thing to look at.
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sc2rocks
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore79 Posts
September 21 2007 05:16 GMT
#176
bump
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
September 21 2007 06:20 GMT
#177
Weren't you warned about not being a fag in the strat forum?
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
September 21 2007 06:27 GMT
#178
good post to start the bump
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
September 21 2007 07:57 GMT
#179
He's only got four posts, probably didnt see the "Old Post" warning.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
September 21 2007 12:29 GMT
#180
Oh well, it was nice to read this over again :D
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