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TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
September 21 2007 13:18 GMT
#181
hahahah
Bergkamp ftw!
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
September 21 2007 16:03 GMT
#182
DaZe is awesome.
Shift targeting with Siege Tanks DOESN'T WORK.

Other than that, exceptional!

I say the bump was needed, many people didn't read this when we first did~
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
September 21 2007 16:59 GMT
#183
Guys, I was talking about sc2rocks, who posted 'bump' after the thread was already bumped.
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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11601 Posts
September 21 2007 21:34 GMT
#184
On September 22 2007 01:03 minus_human wrote:
DaZe is awesome.
Shift targeting with Siege Tanks DOESN'T WORK.

Other than that, exceptional!

I say the bump was needed, many people didn't read this when we first did~


don't have all of your tanks shift targeted to a single goon. It does work, you don't want your tanks attacking the zealots in return hitting yourself.
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-21 22:30:56
September 21 2007 22:29 GMT
#185
hi everybody i'm relatively new to the scene and working hard to stay C- on iccup right now so i am not such a strong player i guess. i just want to share my thoughts about this (the TvT part):

On February 08 2007 21:26 DaZe wrote:
...

I hope I dont have to explain what to do when your containment is in order, just keep massing tanks from 2 factories, build turrets around his base at all possible ways and get scanner. Once you get scanner try to find out what he is doing, he has mainly 3 oppurtinities at this point.

[i]1. Mass units and try to break the containment with scv + units. Against this you wont have any problem if you just keep up your tankmacro.
2. Making drops and either dropping off on another main and expandning there + dropping your expansion/expansions + main. Against this you should be fine if you just scout and defend properly (+ building turrets around his base)
3. Mass hidden wraiths. If you dont see so many units or factories but still cant find those starports, just make some defense against that coz it can be a bitch if they show up from nowhere.


to be honest, to me this seems a little bit inaccurate since i experience scvs to be extremely effective against any type of tank contain. i think that this scenario is not generally in favor of either player. chances should be about 50/50 depending on the map, amount of units, damage done before, etc.

well, first off: a tank containment is one thing, but containing a whole platform or even more is another story... in my opinion this is also a 50/50 scenario and completely depends on timing, resources, mindplay and all that.

i somehow dislike the "just" in that sentence since there's no "supermode" that gives you full knowledge about what's going on in your enemy's base (hopefully), which makes me think that the defender has good chances to turn the game around using wraiths. i mean you can't scan his base all the time, especially not with a delayed expo. wraiths may appear any moment.

my final conclusion: i think it's a perfect 50/50 scenario no matter what the defender is doing, it all depends on skill and of course luck

i hope i did not disgust anybody. i don't say that i am right or DaZe is wrong, i just wanted to share my opinion with you guys
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-22 00:14:50
September 22 2007 00:14 GMT
#186
Yes, DaZe makes alot of assumptions in his guides.

BUT this is because he is a very good player and thinks everyone else is on the same level as he is (was?).
However his guides are excellent and I have learned alot from them.

Also, please stop using excessive coloring of your text, it's annoying. Capische?

<3 Nada [On and off TL.net since 2002
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
September 22 2007 00:55 GMT
#187
what do you mean???
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
September 22 2007 08:58 GMT
#188
oh man, you got my hopes up that daze had written some update to the guide
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
no.1
Profile Joined March 2004
516 Posts
September 22 2007 15:25 GMT
#189
is daze still playing bw @ tot or did he quit?
www.ygosu.com
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
September 22 2007 21:11 GMT
#190
daze is studying in america now i think.

What do you mean shift click for tanks does not work ? I do it when my low apm will give me time to and it seems useful, all my tanks stop shooting zlots and shoot just the goons.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
September 22 2007 22:17 GMT
#191
i need a protoss guide ._.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
September 22 2007 22:40 GMT
#192
On September 23 2007 07:17 LuDwig- wrote:
i need a protoss guide ._.


You're not alone -_-

Nony should write one
^-^
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
September 23 2007 00:12 GMT
#193
Get back on topic newbs
<3 Nada [On and off TL.net since 2002
Trust
Profile Joined April 2007
Germany107 Posts
February 03 2008 21:15 GMT
#194
i am sorry to push that thread but can someone upload the daze reppack again? seems like its down or i cant dl it for other reasons.

thanks in advance
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
February 03 2008 21:47 GMT
#195
On February 04 2008 06:15 Trust wrote:
i am sorry to push that thread but can someone upload the daze reppack again? seems like its down or i cant dl it for other reasons.

thanks in advance

http://rapidshare.com/files/88945837/DazeReps.zip.html

There you go, enjoy.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
Trust
Profile Joined April 2007
Germany107 Posts
February 03 2008 22:25 GMT
#196
thank you
xBTx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada542 Posts
February 03 2008 23:06 GMT
#197
On September 22 2007 17:58 besiger.cry wrote:
oh man, you got my hopes up that daze had written some update to the guide


:p
stuffing feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
February 03 2008 23:36 GMT
#198
what actually happened to DaZe?
xBTx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada542 Posts
February 03 2008 23:38 GMT
#199
On February 04 2008 08:36 Elsi wrote:
what actually happened to DaZe?


I'm guessing he outgrew Starcraft, although you shouldn't quote me on that because I have no idea
stuffing feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
February 04 2008 00:58 GMT
#200
On February 04 2008 08:38 xBTx wrote:
I'm guessing he outgrew Starcraft, although you shouldn't quote me on that because I have no idea

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