Thats a great guy, you know we all love you dazie, haha.
Uhm since I'm a terran player I agree with most parts of you. I don't play @ your level, but perhaps its not a bad idea to build 2 armorys if you are going to use 1 Fac with shop and 5 without... it does not cost that many gas (200) and its powerfull 1-1.
Can you agree with it :-)?

Way

Canada565 Posts

February 08 2007 14:44 GMT

#22

On February 08 2007 23:40 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Thats a great guy, you know we all love you dazie, haha.
Uhm since I'm a terran player I agree with most parts of you. I don't play @ your level, but perhaps its not a bad idea to build 2 armorys if you are going to use 1 Fac with shop and 5 without... it does not cost that many gas (200) and its powerfull 1-1.
Can you agree with it :-)?

i "think" for this build the main idea is to get those vultures out asap and harrass/plant mines strategically as soon as possible, and going dual armory at the same time would be slow and lower ur vulture count considerably in the earlier stages of the game.. so probably wouldn't be as effective... i think.. >_>

NarutO

Germany18839 Posts

February 08 2007 14:51 GMT

#23

Hm...
I can't agree with this I think.. you could just spare 2 SCVs or perhaps one tank, perhaps you get a few less vultures.. but the 1-1 is worth it, isn't it ?

SK.Testie

Canada11084 Posts

February 08 2007 14:55 GMT

#24

If you are only using 2 factories with shops and you do not have 2 armories, you are doing your build a terrible injustice.

{ToT}Strafe

Thailand7026 Posts

February 08 2007 14:55 GMT

#25

holy shit daze. jesus and his happy message got to you didnt it?

i didnt read it all, but im sure it was a fine piece of art!

i lube you

araav

Armenia1590 Posts

February 08 2007 14:59 GMT

#26

only 2 hours? you wanted to say 2 days, didn't you?

nice work, thank you, T is my worst race, and I'm sure this guide will help me alot!!!
thanks DaZe for your time and effort!

One Page Memory

Bulgaria2145 Posts

February 08 2007 15:01 GMT

#27

Thanks Daze. What I really like in guides is that I can carefully read them while at work

And there are plenty of your reps to see builds and executing

Way

Canada565 Posts

February 08 2007 15:01 GMT

#28

On February 08 2007 23:55 MYM.Testie wrote:
If you are only using 2 factories with shops and you do not have 2 armories, you are doing your build a terrible injustice.

o he was talking about the 1 shop 5 no shop build.. that daze mentioned.. or something... i duno ;s

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

February 08 2007 15:08 GMT

#29

I was like maybe half serious when I asked you to make a TvT guide, because I knew you where leaving and then you just cover all 3 matchups with such a beautiful big post - much love to you! <3

WastedYouth

United States563 Posts

February 08 2007 15:09 GMT

#30

I've watched ur whole replay pack and I'd like to confess I've stolen a lot of your TvZ tactics like:
Staying between your main and zerg's main and only attacking their expos with small groups of spare units
Expanding while harassing with a group of m&m vessel in the event of your first army dying.
Reinforcing your army with unhotkeyed freshly made m&m instead of just waiting for your first army to die and heading back out with what's waiting at your entrance
Making 2 ports AND 2 factories (even though all 4 can't be fully funded) to make your army more dynamic
ok glad I got that off my chest.Big DaZe fan here folks WOOT WOOT

with that said I'm not sure if I agree with the go-for-the-expos-if-theres-a-hive-up thing. Usually they'll just counter with swarm attacks... and once they start swarming at your entrance the attack continues with more swarm reinforcements in a vicious circle until you're dead

5HITCOMBO

Japan2239 Posts

February 08 2007 15:44 GMT

#31

The thing about hive tech is that you're SO strapped for cash after you get your initial excess gas used up on ultras/guards/defilers, and you need scourge for the sci, so taking out gas expos is a great way to win in the long run.