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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
June 17 2009 18:38 GMT
#21
On June 18 2009 03:26 SuperArc wrote:
July is a genius for finding this out

shark is actually credited for discovering muta stacking, july just has way better execution.
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Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
June 17 2009 18:47 GMT
#22
On June 18 2009 02:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 02:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 18 2009 02:33 da_head wrote:
hmm how about when terran started going mech (vulture & wraith/valk) against zerg? not sure what game that was.

Fantasy vs GGPlay? But that build didn't have wraiths, I think Leta made that popular.

Boxer vs Grrr ~ 1999.

Grrr as Z , Boxer 3 fact 1 base mech WITH FIREBATS.

REVOLUTIONARY!

If you remember that replay you're oldschool.

It's kinda hard to remember a replay of a game played 2years before reps were implemented in the game.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
June 17 2009 19:03 GMT
#23
On June 18 2009 03:38 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 03:26 SuperArc wrote:
July is a genius for finding this out

shark is actually credited for discovering muta stacking, july just has way better execution.


thats what i thought, it also helps that july is much better with is aggresive stlye of play. and the fact that he won using muta micro
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
pevenariola
Profile Joined September 2008
United States26 Posts
June 17 2009 19:05 GMT
#24
ahh julyzerg his experience is what makes him so valuable in starcraft today.
Angus
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
June 17 2009 19:32 GMT
#25
On June 18 2009 03:47 Eatme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 02:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On June 18 2009 02:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 18 2009 02:33 da_head wrote:
hmm how about when terran started going mech (vulture & wraith/valk) against zerg? not sure what game that was.

Fantasy vs GGPlay? But that build didn't have wraiths, I think Leta made that popular.

Boxer vs Grrr ~ 1999.

Grrr as Z , Boxer 3 fact 1 base mech WITH FIREBATS.

REVOLUTIONARY!

If you remember that replay you're oldschool.

It's kinda hard to remember a replay of a game played 2years before reps were implemented in the game.

Nice!
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
June 17 2009 19:33 GMT
#26
i think:

even though the build existed before... the Mech terran build with one vult harrass and valks that Fantasy used to school GGPLAY was a turning point in the way mech was used TvZ
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10094 Posts
June 17 2009 19:36 GMT
#27
wheres [gg99]slayer vs boxer
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 17 2009 19:37 GMT
#28
rofl dont forget dude, FBH chucked a riceball at go.go bc go.go said beating khan is as easy as eating rice, ROFLLL.
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
June 17 2009 19:52 GMT
#29
Any game with Nal_rA in it. His games are just art
meow
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:00:46
June 17 2009 19:59 GMT
#30
oh man the things you had to do to beat oov...
also, rofl at the ad

Would Jaedong's 2hatch muta vs Sea on python count?
TLPD Vod
It really set the standard for mutalisks harass and aided in the transition from sAviOr's passive usage to the now common aggressive play.

edit: Game starts at 16:55
pevenariola
Profile Joined September 2008
United States26 Posts
June 17 2009 20:29 GMT
#31
damn so many suggestions give me a second to watch the vods to see if it truly is revolutionary to the game. also, i decided the "fantasy build" is revolutionary.
Angus
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
June 17 2009 20:37 GMT
#32
Jaedong vs Shuttle Averatec S1 Game 3 @ Othello
Vod
This is the first time I saw the 5hatch hydra -> muta build used. I'm not sure if it was the first time but it is the oldest one I can remember.

Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
June 17 2009 20:43 GMT
#33
Why isn't Savior vs Firebathero @python on the list?
Firebathero is still the best!
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 20:50:45
June 17 2009 20:50 GMT
#34
On June 18 2009 05:37 kNyTTyM wrote:
Jaedong vs Shuttle Averatec S1 Game 3 @ Othello
Vod
This is the first time I saw the 5hatch hydra -> muta build used. I'm not sure if it was the first time but it is the oldest one I can remember.



I thought it was Luxury during some individual league; and the idea stemmed from that SC program star age where the commentator wondered why people didn't build Muta after 5 hatch hydra to snipe templar.

I don't think it's revolutionary. All the games mentioned triggered a gigantic and lasting influx of a certain style of play. I think that the 5 hatch hyrda -> muta transition is merely a trend, another development in the game. If you're going to recommend this, you must also recommend incremental advances like Midas' FD Rush or Anytime's 2 gate goon answer.

Other incremental advances rewards go to (in my opinion)
Jaedongs ZvT 2 hatch muta
Pusan's (?) arbiter transitions PvT
Flash's Fast Armory/Golaith Katrina build
Stork's reaver/expo/carrier style

I'm definitely missing some older incremental advances (I find it hard to believe that Oov, Boxer, Savior, Ra, etc. didn't make incremental advances.

The ensnare/wraith game was Jju versus iloveOov on Raid Assault II.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
pevenariola
Profile Joined September 2008
United States26 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-17 21:08:06
June 17 2009 20:53 GMT
#35
Well Firebathero vs Savior is not on the list because despite being an epic game, and the use of battlecruisers. It didn't change how starcraft was played for a while.

BRB adding the Flash Build

if anyone knows how the Carrier build got popular, and where it was first shown please pm me.
Angus
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
June 17 2009 21:05 GMT
#36
Well, it wasn't really a single game. It because popular because Stork used it to secure his position as a dominant protoss in 06-07 and it brought him a ton of wins. I guess if you want to stick a game to it, it was epitomized by his 2 base carrier rush on Katrina.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 17 2009 21:14 GMT
#37
Why did the team nal_ra was all killing have the flag of norway on their jackets?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
pevenariola
Profile Joined September 2008
United States26 Posts
June 17 2009 21:16 GMT
#38
don't ask me i'm just a lonely starcraft fan
Angus
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51699 Posts
June 17 2009 21:20 GMT
#39
On June 18 2009 06:14 arb wrote:
Why did the team nal_ra was all killing have the flag of norway on their jackets?


their team uniform makers were based in norway
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LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
June 17 2009 21:22 GMT
#40
What about Jaedong versus Bisu on Othello when Jaedong did the hyrda --> muta (to snipe high templars). I believe that became the standard on many maps in zvp after that game.

Great choice overall. I'm going to re-watch all of them.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
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