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China3334 Posts
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Almost 1,000 points between JD and 3rd place...nice
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wow JD...
Gorush in the top 20? O.o that would be cool
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is awesome32277 Posts
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On June 01 2009 11:52 ruXxar wrote:
Where is Nada? q.q
He lost top 30 a few months ago, I believe.
JD is a beast. I hope his dominance continues if he provides great games.
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31.  NaDa 668.1 ▽5
228. IdrA 9.0 ▽22
Just barely outside top 30 :D
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such a big gap between top two and the rest!
and i guess the 6 dragons are the only protoss alive..
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China3334 Posts
On June 01 2009 11:55 Durak wrote:He lost top 30 a few months ago, I believe. JD is a beast. I hope his dominance continues if he provides great games.
No, he lost top 30 this month  First time in 7 years?
31. NaDa 668.1 ▽5
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Lol. 6 protoss dragons and everything else is terran and zerg.
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Noooooo Savior... hang in there buddy.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
It's pretty painful to see 6 protosses and 24 terran/zergs.
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On June 01 2009 12:11 Roffles wrote:
It's pretty painful to see 6 protosses and 24 terran/zergs.
No, what's really painful is watching TLers bitch about Protoss non-stop in spite of the clear evidence that they're in no way better than either other race
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United States13896 Posts
EffOrt up 300 points this month :o At this pace he could possibly break into the Top 10 by the time the next ranking comes out. Keep it up Kim Jungwoo!
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On June 01 2009 12:15 theqat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 12:11 Roffles wrote:
It's pretty painful to see 6 protosses and 24 terran/zergs. No, what's really painful is watching TLers bitch about Protoss non-stop in spite of the clear evidence that they're in no way better than either other race
Way to bring a controversial topic into the thread.
Not to mention this chart showing almost half of the top 13 being protoss. If you're make that troll statement, do it with better supporting evidence.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
gorush = gosu (still fuck kespa)
nada :'(
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United States4126 Posts
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On June 01 2009 12:15 theqat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 12:11 Roffles wrote:
It's pretty painful to see 6 protosses and 24 terran/zergs. No, what's really painful is watching TLers bitch about Protoss non-stop in spite of the clear evidence that they're in no way better than either other race
Not at pro level but unless D-C level ICCUP players are all secret pros then that's what the argument is about. Stop being so defensive sir protoss >.>
But man Effort you are amazing lately. Keep going fool.
I like how Luxury is still number 7. He deserves to be about 30 ranks lower than that.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
also how do you get points without pl, osl, msl etc? minor league?
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On June 01 2009 12:11 Roffles wrote:
It's pretty painful to see 6 protosses and 24 terran/zergs.
Even worse is that there seems to be very few tosses who could step up soon.
Oh well, the protoss dominance was fun while it lasted. But now it's back to the old story of protoss being once again the most difficult race on the professional scene.
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United States13896 Posts
On June 01 2009 12:23 Kentor wrote:
also how do you get points without pl, osl, msl etc? minor league?
Either Minor League or the Offline Prelims. I wasn't sure if the Minor League counted in KeSPA until now, but IdrA's dropping suggests it does.
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Not the most difficult, the least successful if you're to remain logical with your previous statement.
I'm predicting Bisu overtakes Jaedong within a month, and if not by then, then certainly within two months. I can't imagine effort taking the #1 zerg spot though, but he may take Flash's spot within a few months. His play looks very solid.
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On June 01 2009 12:26 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 12:11 Roffles wrote:
It's pretty painful to see 6 protosses and 24 terran/zergs. Even worse is that there seems to be very few tosses who could step up soon. Oh well, the protoss dominance was fun while it lasted. But now it's back to the old story of protoss being once again the most difficult race on the professional scene.
Violet and Horang2 could make it, but they need help from individual leagues, not just Proleague points. Violet's been unbeatable. He's making KTF Protoss proud.
I dunno, the KeSPA rankings at least justify Kal as the 6th dragon. But damn, 6 out of the top 12 players are toss and those are the only toss on the ranking.
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That's just how fast the pro gaming scene is. One moment your team/race/whatever has a lot of depth and the next moment those players mature and there's a lack of new supporting players.
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Nada
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United States10328 Posts
still no toss except 6 dragons XD
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Whoo eSTRO is moving on up.
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Violet is getting there!!!!
JD's massive points over Bisu is because of the OSL win right?
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What kespa isn't #1 on the list? (even if it is their own)
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On June 01 2009 12:36 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 12:26 baubo wrote:On June 01 2009 12:11 Roffles wrote:
It's pretty painful to see 6 protosses and 24 terran/zergs. Even worse is that there seems to be very few tosses who could step up soon. Oh well, the protoss dominance was fun while it lasted. But now it's back to the old story of protoss being once again the most difficult race on the professional scene. Violet and Horang2 could make it, but they need help from individual leagues, not just Proleague points. Violet's been unbeatable. He's making KTF Protoss proud. I dunno, the KeSPA rankings at least justify Kal as the 6th dragon. But damn, 6 out of the top 12 players are toss and those are the only toss on the ranking.
Actually I thought of those two and decided to change from "No toss who could step up" to "very few toss who could step up". But even then, proleague success only sometimes translate into starleague success.
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On June 01 2009 12:46 scyper wrote:
Violet is getting there!!!!
JD's massive points over Bisu is because of the OSL win right?
I dunno, he actually gained more points last month because he was sent out for more ace matches (and won), but the gap has narrowed slightly since Bisu has lost one less game this month.
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Woo~
Go hyvaa, UpMaGiC and Really!
:3
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Poor toss
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jeez sad to see nada out of top 30. and god damn jaedong has a huge lead on 1st
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#1 Should be KeSPA, leading all players by at least 2000 points..
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these rankings r very forgiving
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That's because they did not forsee the magnitude of suckiness that Luxury would achieve.
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nada
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that site gave me a "google safe browsing warning"... o.o
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On June 01 2009 11:59 bearbuddy wrote:
Lol. 6 protoss dragons and everything else is terran and zerg.
zzz where are the other toss
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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Because the 4-8th place is very close in points and the other people did almost nothing.
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Man..Kespa ranking actually looks realistic now for once
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On June 01 2009 13:26 konadora wrote:
How did Fantasy +4?
Stork, Jangbi, Kal, Luxury.
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Did up to #205, there's a few in there I didn't get and I didn't go all the way to the end, I just installed Korean characters and I had to do something with it! Hope you guys can use for TLPD or something. The ones I didn't get are just labeled with their team and race, #166 and #188 are not "PrOtoss.
Ranks #31-#205
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The complaints about protoss are so spurious. It's all a matter of perspective.
P in the top 10: 4/10 - OMG P IS SO IMBA!11!!
P in the top 30: 6/30 - OMG P IS SO WEAK!1!!1
P in the top 50: 15/50 - Hmm, P is slightly underrepresented
P in the top 100: 31/100 - Again, slightly underrepresented
P overall: 87/272 - 32% Slightly underrepresented
Protoss is a bit top heavy, but doing just fine.
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On June 01 2009 13:23 hubfub wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 11:59 bearbuddy wrote:
Lol. 6 protoss dragons and everything else is terran and zerg. zzz where are the other toss
Much, Pure, and Horang2 should be breaking into the top 30 pretty soon I think with the way they've been performing.
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Nooooo NaDa T_T
You need to make it back in the top 20!!!
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So...go.go makes it into both leagues and he drops 2 places?
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i've always said protoss is the hardest race at pro level (but easiest at noob level).
because it requires the least micro, it also benefits the least from good micro (as in least potential).
the most potential resides with terran as they are the most micro intensive.
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United States12607 Posts
On June 01 2009 14:06 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 13:23 hubfub wrote:On June 01 2009 11:59 bearbuddy wrote:
Lol. 6 protoss dragons and everything else is terran and zerg. zzz where are the other toss Much, Pure, and Horang2 should be breaking into the top 30 pretty soon I think with the way they've been performing.
haha let's not get carried away with Much, he only played 4 KeSPA-sanctioned games in the entire month of May
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United States12607 Posts
On June 01 2009 14:18 Avidkeystamper wrote:
So...go.go makes it into both leagues and he drops 2 places?
KeSPA rankings always produce some bizarre results from my perspective too, but I'm not really surprised at go.go - if the MSL Wild Card was not included in this rank I could see him falling a few places for dropping out of MST and, most importantly, being totally MIA in PL.
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OMG NOOO NADAA...
Wow, I never thought this would happen...like never.
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Awww, I feel bad for Nada.
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On June 01 2009 11:55 IntoTheWow wrote:
CJ RISING!~
To the top baby! Enjoy it while it lasts Jaedong! >:D
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Jangbi, Kal, BeSt and Free are all in deep slumps. Only two dragons remain the reset have moved on.
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Upmagic as fourth best Terran. About damn time.
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next PR top 3 should be JD, Bisu, Effort (in any order)...
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
31. (T)NaDa 668.1 ▽5
Blame Wemade.Fox!
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On June 01 2009 11:48 Emlary wrote:31. NaDa 668.1 ▽5 (For the first time out of top 30 after 87 months since March 2002.)
God that is so insane... I don't see anyone else even coming close.
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Damn Nada . My favorite progamer only after Savior. But I think more than anything, I'm going to be happy for him and enjoy the fact that he made it this far instead of feeling sad.
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On June 01 2009 12:40 G0dly wrote:
NOO NADA =(
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On June 01 2009 14:18 Avidkeystamper wrote:
So...go.go makes it into both leagues and he drops 2 places?
The basic reason is pretty simple: he got passed by Kwanro and sKyHigh. Go.Go's points actually increased from 566.3 to 598.5. Go.Go's biggest problem was probably his losses against Juni and 815 who are both ranked in the mid 70s. Consequently, his wins against Luxury and by.hero were only able to slightly boost his points. Meanwhile, Kwanro had quality wins against Luxury, Kal, and GGPlay with only one bad loss against Hyuk, and sKyHigh had quality wins against GGPlay, BeSt, and Kal with no bad losses. The quality of competition that Go.Go faced was not as high as the competition Kwanro or sKyHigh faced, so they were able to pass him in the rankings.
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Katowice25012 Posts
I get so annoyed with how KeSPA doesn't release how these are done
I'm starting to like this system more and more but can't pin down whats missing in my numbers
thanks for the translation!
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
Why Backho and Much are so low? They should be at 20-30 places
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without bisu, jaedong would be the thing of pure dominance.
(...and without jaedong, bisu would be king of kings)
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Nice to see Effort and UpMagic gaining ranks like crazy. Both have been playing really well and both have really entertaining styles to boot
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
i dont even care about alkl the risers.. just .. nada ..........>_<
thanks for posting emlarry
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Lol, jaedong bonjwa status 1k points over flash...
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o.m.g. at all the new cj players rising through the ranks, why the hell is luxury still at top 10? -.-||
i don get how these ranking works.... at all
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Ares[Effort]
DEMACIA6550 Posts
Yes!!!!! EffOrt ranked #20. His first time being in top 20 ^^. The highest he got was #29 couple months ago then later dropping down below 30. Now 20 woohoo Kim Jung Woo fighting!
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Nada...
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On June 01 2009 16:48 Dead9 wrote:
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Nice to see ESTRO being represented up in the top 20  . UPMAGIC AND HYVAA FTW!!
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On June 01 2009 22:50 DoX.) wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 16:48 Dead9 wrote:On June 01 2009 12:40 G0dly wrote:
NOO NADA =(
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Nada lost spot in Top30, so it is a time to quit SC...
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Awesome how Flash lost almost 100 points and yet moved up to #3. :p
Shows you how much stork, jangbi, luxury fell
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
gorush on the rise
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Poor Nada :s
We can still hope for a comeback though!
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no nada noo ((((
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wow, jaedong and bisu have a sizable distance from the rest. Sad for NaDa & CJ indeed rising.
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On June 01 2009 19:42 Ares[EffOrt] wrote:
Yes!!!!! EffOrt ranked #20. His first time being in top 20 ^^. The highest he got was #29 couple months ago then later dropping down below 30. Now 20 woohoo Kim Jung Woo fighting!
I don't see him dropping bellow 30 anymore considering the way he's playing at the moment. I'm
a little sad because Nada dropped out of the top 30 .
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wow, didn't know fantasy was so high.
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Okay, Okay i see the NaDa thing, but did nobody else see that  July dropped out of Top20 for the first time in like... 30+ months? i really don't know
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jaedong continuing to beast it up
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On June 02 2009 05:45 Heimatloser wrote:Okay, Okay i see the NaDa thing, but did nobody else see that July dropped out of Top20 for the first time in like... 30+ months? i really don't know
eh more like year and half
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NOOOOOO NADA!! Bastards should've top 30'ed him just because... I mean 31? C'mon.
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On June 01 2009 22:50 DoX.) wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 16:48 Dead9 wrote:On June 01 2009 12:40 G0dly wrote:
NOO NADA =(
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God's Garden and Battle Royale helping Jaedong stay alone at the top.
It's a pretty balanced top 10 though.
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Clearly he is slumping in all his other MUs.
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31. NaDa 668.1 ▽5 (For the first time out of top 30 after 87 months since March 2002.)
I sense a disturbance in the Force
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Funny to see fbh rise in ranks looking at his not so good performances, and great not in top 30, and nada out of top 30, but he hasn't played in a while so I guess that hurts his kespa a lot. Jangbi and stork fell a little, but they'll overtake fantasy and luxury by next month, so not too worried.
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On June 02 2009 06:44 ghostWriter wrote:
God's Garden and Battle Royale helping Jaedong stay alone at the top.
It's a pretty balanced top 10 though.
Correction. Jd's ZvZ helped JD stay alone at the top. Don't blame the maps as it was his skill on an "balanced" (since he was doing ZvZ) map. Just to make sure there is no confusion, it would be like saying Bisu is only doing good because 1 of the maps was highly protoss favored, but if Bisu was ONLY doing PvP on that map then it would not be the map that helped him but rather his PvP skills.
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On June 02 2009 10:19 snapcrackle wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2009 06:44 ghostWriter wrote:
God's Garden and Battle Royale helping Jaedong stay alone at the top.
It's a pretty balanced top 10 though. Correction. Jd's ZvZ helped JD stay alone at the top. Don't blame the maps as it was his skill on an "balanced" ( since he was doing ZvZ) map. Just to make sure there is no confusion, it would be like saying Bisu is only doing good because 1 of the maps was highly protoss favored, but if Bisu was ONLY doing PvP on that map then it would not be the map that helped him but rather his PvP skills.
Those two maps set him up for an unusually high amount of ZvZs, though, which = higher amount of wins (statistically). So speaking from a pure win-loss ratio point of view, the maps do contribute to JD's ranking
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violet will go up up and awaaaaay. i have really good things / feelings for violet.
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BackHo's headed for the top... Next big dragon.
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gogogo violet! and flash is back to top 3
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On June 02 2009 11:05 Kyuukyuu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2009 10:19 snapcrackle wrote:On June 02 2009 06:44 ghostWriter wrote:
God's Garden and Battle Royale helping Jaedong Stay alone at the top.
It's a pretty balanced top 10 though. Correction. Jd's ZvZ helped JD Stay alone at the top. Don't blame the maps as it was his skill on an "balanced" ( since he was doing ZvZ) map. Just to make sure there is no confusion, it would be like saying Bisu is Only doing good because 1 of the maps was highly PrOtoss favored, but if Bisu was Only doing PvP on that map then it would not be the map that helped him but rather his PvP skills. Those two maps set him up for an unusually high amount of ZvZs, though, which = higher amount of wins (statistically). So speaking from a pure win-loss ratio Point of view, the maps do contribute to JD's ranking
Edit: kyuukyuu beat it to me :[.
A reasonable argument, but also, because the maps are unbalanced, teams are sending out the race that is strongest on that map. Because those maps are zerg-balanced, Jaedong gets sent out against another zerg...meaning he gets to face his 81.4% winrate matchup.
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I cant even remember when was the last time Nada played a game.
I think his coach is giving him a big vacation in PL or moving him to ACE soon.
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Wow, I'm so freaking used to looking at the top 30 and just assuming NaDa would be in there. Thi is the first time that I looked and couldnt see him, i glanced through the list really quick and didnt even realize he wasnt there until i saw the little note on the bottom pointing out he isnt in top 30.
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OMG!! Nooooooooo N O O O!!!! NaDa!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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7 years in top 30 is pretty impressive
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woah go effort,skyhigh and movie !
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Can anyone tell me where HoeJJa is and how much he has moved?
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You newbies have no fucking idea how amazing this is.
vZ: 70-16 (81.40%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W L W W W W W W
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On June 01 2009 12:15 theqat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 12:11 Roffles wrote:
It's pretty painful to see 6 protosses and 24 terran/zergs. No, what's really painful is watching TLers bitch about Protoss non-stop in spite of the clear evidence that they're in no way better than either other race
The races are fucking equal now everbody shut the fuck up? I thought arguments like this was 2008 -_-.
Edit: Savior, please don't forget what you said about 2009.
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On June 04 2009 12:50 VorcePA wrote:
Can anyone tell me where HoeJJa is and how much he has moved?
HoeJJa is at 60, which is the same ranking as he had in May. He did gain 26.8 points though.
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On June 04 2009 12:53 MYM.Testie wrote:
You newbies have no fucking idea how amazing this is.
vZ: 70-16 (81.40%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W L W W W W W W
Its better than any bonjwa before him
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On June 04 2009 12:53 MYM.Testie wrote:
You newbies have no fucking idea how amazing this is.
vZ: 70-16 (81.40%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W L W W W W W W
Hey.. I'm not a newbie
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On June 04 2009 16:53 StylishVODs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 12:53 MYM.Testie wrote:
You newbies have no fucking idea how amazing this is.
vZ: 70-16 (81.40%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W L W W W W W W Its better than any bonjwa before him
QFT, even better is the fact that it is almost sure to increase with every vZ he plays.
Nice post count btw.
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Great news for GoRush 53 placement improvement!
But sad for Nada. 87 months in the top 30. This is something I doubt will be broken.
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NADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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