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[News] KeSPA ref to receieve disciplinary action - Page 5

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
May 21 2009 13:23 GMT
#81
On May 21 2009 22:16 Diomedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 21:12 perx80 wrote:
This is bad news.
This incident shows that there is a committee able to punish wrong decision making by referees.
No punishments after the "pp" and "a" incidents.
So. they think the referees made the correct decision in those respective incidents?


Does everyone even doubt that? Everyone always knew it was illegal to type anything besides the proper way to ask for a pause. In the 'a'-case the rules were very very clear and obviously correctly applied.

... not this shit again.
POGGERS
Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
May 21 2009 13:51 GMT
#82
Can't help people keep posting that.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
May 21 2009 14:50 GMT
#83
Why is everyone so pissed at KeSPA here? As far as I can tell, the only person who fucked up was the ref, first by allowing the Sparkyz coach into the booth, then by not agreeing to have a regame. The warning to Horang2 was totally justified, since it was his fault that he forgot to check his monitor settings. He wasn't DQ'd(which would've been lame), so I don't see what the issue is in this case.
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 21 2009 15:42 GMT
#84
On May 21 2009 23:50 Elyvilon wrote:
Why is everyone so pissed at KeSPA here? As far as I can tell, the only person who fucked up was the ref, first by allowing the Sparkyz coach into the booth, then by not agreeing to have a regame. The warning to Horang2 was totally justified, since it was his fault that he forgot to check his monitor settings. He wasn't DQ'd(which would've been lame), so I don't see what the issue is in this case.


We hate Kespa because the refs represent Kespa and their stupid rules. During the game with Horang2, the MBC coach requested a rematch because the Hite coach went into Horang2's booth. The Hite coach also agrees that there should be a rematch but that stupid ref said "no."
gumbum8
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States721 Posts
May 21 2009 15:44 GMT
#85
This doesn't really bother me. My question is, was his monitor fixed for the game?
If so, then i don't see so much wrong with this. Ref fucked up, ref gets in trouble...
I don't think the game was altered by the events, so it's acceptable that it continue, although the correct decision would have been rematch. This seems well played by KeSPA in my eyes. I'm trying to believe that they've seen the error of their ways
but really, has anyone REALLY been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
May 21 2009 15:49 GMT
#86
On May 22 2009 00:42 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 23:50 Elyvilon wrote:
Why is everyone so pissed at KeSPA here? As far as I can tell, the only person who fucked up was the ref, first by allowing the Sparkyz coach into the booth, then by not agreeing to have a regame. The warning to Horang2 was totally justified, since it was his fault that he forgot to check his monitor settings. He wasn't DQ'd(which would've been lame), so I don't see what the issue is in this case.


We hate Kespa because the refs represent Kespa and their stupid rules. During the game with Horang2, the MBC coach requested a rematch because the Hite coach went into Horang2's booth. The Hite coach also agrees that there should be a rematch but that stupid ref said "no."

You are just supporting him rofl
POGGERS
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
May 21 2009 15:59 GMT
#87
I suppose their trying to placate the netizens with this, but this doesn't seem to be a very big thing to be pursuing. Why dont they hand out disciplinary action to those referees who made those rediculous disqualification calls?
U Gotta Skate.
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
May 21 2009 16:15 GMT
#88
On May 21 2009 20:10 Jumperer wrote:
KESPA STILL UNDEFEATED

KeSPA is actually 4-2. They lost to Firefist and themselves.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
May 21 2009 16:23 GMT
#89
On May 22 2009 00:42 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 23:50 Elyvilon wrote:
Why is everyone so pissed at KeSPA here? As far as I can tell, the only person who fucked up was the ref, first by allowing the Sparkyz coach into the booth, then by not agreeing to have a regame. The warning to Horang2 was totally justified, since it was his fault that he forgot to check his monitor settings. He wasn't DQ'd(which would've been lame), so I don't see what the issue is in this case.


We hate Kespa because the refs represent Kespa and their stupid rules. During the game with Horang2, the MBC coach requested a rematch because the Hite coach went into Horang2's booth. The Hite coach also agrees that there should be a rematch but that stupid ref said "no."

So you agree with both me and KeSPA that the ref was at fault in this case?

I mean, KeSPA has done a bunch of bad things, but I don't see what they did wrong here.
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Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
May 21 2009 16:24 GMT
#90
Atleast they're admitting a mistake heh.
Thanks for the article!
Respect is everything. ~ARchon
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 16:31:08
May 21 2009 16:29 GMT
#91
On May 22 2009 00:42 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 23:50 Elyvilon wrote:
Why is everyone so pissed at KeSPA here? As far as I can tell, the only person who fucked up was the ref, first by allowing the Sparkyz coach into the booth, then by not agreeing to have a regame. The warning to Horang2 was totally justified, since it was his fault that he forgot to check his monitor settings. He wasn't DQ'd(which would've been lame), so I don't see what the issue is in this case.


We hate Kespa because the refs represent Kespa and their stupid rules. During the game with Horang2, the MBC coach requested a rematch because the Hite coach went into Horang2's booth. The Hite coach also agrees that there should be a rematch but that stupid ref said "no."

The ref did not represent Kespa's rules this time as he clearly broke one of the Kespa rules.

Your hate is implemented incorrectly due to your ignorance. You only needed to read the article correctly once to get a good idea of what happened, but obviously you haven't. Don't even try to say anything until you actually know what happened.
Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 16:46:02
May 21 2009 16:44 GMT
#92
Yeah it's so strange. In one case the refs can't do anything because the rules are set in stone, people blame the refs. They just make the judgments they the rules dictate.

Then when the ref does something he shouldn't according to the rules, apparently the asme people blame kespa.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 21 2009 18:49 GMT
#93
Waterboarding inc?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
May 21 2009 19:06 GMT
#94
CRUCIFY HIM!
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
May 21 2009 19:15 GMT
#95
On May 22 2009 04:06 Day[9] wrote:
CRUCIFY HIM!

Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
May 21 2009 19:26 GMT
#96
why not just make it like a real fuckign sport and allow your coaches to go in.... so stupid.
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 19:31:49
May 21 2009 19:31 GMT
#97
because the coaches can see the screen the casters are watching, thus can see both players screens and therefor could tell his player the other players strategies
wraiths go pew pew
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
May 21 2009 19:31 GMT
#98
On May 22 2009 04:26 wishbones wrote:
why not just make it like a real fuckign sport and allow your coaches to go in.... so stupid.


Cause in real sports every player can see their opponents. In SC you can't see them all the time, the coaches can.

Why not just give them map hack?
Zeridian
Profile Joined April 2009
United States198 Posts
May 21 2009 19:40 GMT
#99
lol kespa is running into more and more trouble, pretty soon it'll be hard to figure out what the rules out, it'll be written out in bible form, and followed like laws. Pretty soon there will be a rule for everything and we won't be able to watch any starcraft.
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
May 21 2009 20:01 GMT
#100
I really hope things like these don't happen in more decisive matches
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