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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
May 21 2009 05:00 GMT
#41
Imo they should allow the teams to mediate any issues among themselves and only intervene if an agreement cannot be found.

ie: I'm sure whatever team was playing against the guy that said "pp," or the one that said "a," or even when Nal_rA accidentally paused would have been fine not taking the WO. I mean they have some honor and common sense.
themonkyguy
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia149 Posts
May 21 2009 05:06 GMT
#42
thanks for the translation konadora :D

kespa continues with their free falling it seems...
CJ Entusman #48 (-_-)
[AhunGrY]MelOn
Profile Joined November 2008
United States357 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 05:22:11
May 21 2009 05:21 GMT
#43
On May 21 2009 12:52 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:50 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
I'm still unclear as to why horang recieved a warning. Could he infact see the resource display? or was it for the pp? or did he switch some setting to cause him to not be able to see the display?

Before the game started, he could see it. Then when the game started, he couldn't. So he requested for a pause, typing 'pp'. KeSPA stopped being a bitch and gave him a warning instead of a DQ for typing 'pp'.

hm from horang2's post game interview
im pretty sure he just did the setting really fast and didnt check if he could see the resources
then he was like "hmm this shouldnt matter for the game.... oh wait it does pp"
then they resized/adjusted monitor settings and it was all good
so i am pretty sure the warning was for not doing the setting properly
so kespa was completely justified in giving the warning
also i thought kespa changed the rule so that any string of ps can be used to request a pause
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
May 21 2009 05:24 GMT
#44
On May 21 2009 14:21 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:52 konadora wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:50 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
I'm still unclear as to why horang recieved a warning. Could he infact see the resource display? or was it for the pp? or did he switch some setting to cause him to not be able to see the display?

Before the game started, he could see it. Then when the game started, he couldn't. So he requested for a pause, typing 'pp'. KeSPA stopped being a bitch and gave him a warning instead of a DQ for typing 'pp'.

hm from horang2's post game interview
im pretty sure he just did the setting really fast and didnt check if he could see the resources
then he was like "hmm this shouldnt matter for the game.... oh wait it does pp"
then they resized/adjusted monitor settings and it was all good
so i am pretty sure the warning was for not doing the setting properly
so kespa was completely justified in giving the warning
also i thought kespa changed the rule so that any string of ps can be used to request a pause


I'm going to pause my games with pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
RIP eSTRO :(
Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
May 21 2009 05:27 GMT
#45
I think the refs get a bad rep for upholding the rules made by others, but in this case that's a bad move by the refs.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
May 21 2009 05:29 GMT
#46
Horang2 getting a warning is completely justified because the players are supposed to check if the equipment is working prior to the game. That part's fine.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
May 21 2009 05:30 GMT
#47
On May 21 2009 14:21 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 12:52 konadora wrote:
On May 21 2009 12:50 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
I'm still unclear as to why horang recieved a warning. Could he infact see the resource display? or was it for the pp? or did he switch some setting to cause him to not be able to see the display?

Before the game started, he could see it. Then when the game started, he couldn't. So he requested for a pause, typing 'pp'. KeSPA stopped being a bitch and gave him a warning instead of a DQ for typing 'pp'.

hm from horang2's post game interview
im pretty sure he just did the setting really fast and didnt check if he could see the resources
then he was like "hmm this shouldnt matter for the game.... oh wait it does pp"
then they resized/adjusted monitor settings and it was all good
so i am pretty sure the warning was for not doing the setting properly
so kespa was completely justified in giving the warning
also i thought kespa changed the rule so that any string of ps can be used to request a pause

Ah okay, he didn't set properly before the game, read wrongly.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
May 21 2009 05:32 GMT
#48
I was really wondering why MBC's coach was all agitated while I was watching the game. It completely makes sense now though, after this article.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
May 21 2009 05:32 GMT
#49
Thankies Kona :D
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
May 21 2009 05:36 GMT
#50
Previous situations have seen the refs hamstrung by poor rules that they had to uphold, but this was just a poor judgment call on the part of the ref. Seems like the correct measures are being taken.
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Crahptacular
Profile Joined December 2008
United States295 Posts
May 21 2009 08:56 GMT
#51
Ref should've been DQ'd.

>.>
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
May 21 2009 09:10 GMT
#52
I guess things like this are bound to happen as we make the transition from a cosy little community with give and take to a properly regulated industry. I'm sure when the first generation of coaches were around, nobody would have said anything. They would just have trusted that nothing untoward was happening because they'd be meeting for dinner the week after or something. But that kind of thing stops working as the industry becomes more professional, which I think is good.
Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
May 21 2009 09:16 GMT
#53
He received a warning for typing 'pp'? But Leta got DQed for the same thing under the same rules?

Coach entering the booth, what was he thinking? And how did the ref not notice that and act upon it?

Good actions by Kespa.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
May 21 2009 09:22 GMT
#54
On May 21 2009 12:49 KnightOfNi wrote:
Kespa 1:0 Kespa

Wait what?

Just noticed this, but Zeus looks like a total baller in a serious face and a suit.

lol thats what i was thinking, their turning on themselves
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 09:23:19
May 21 2009 09:22 GMT
#55
On May 21 2009 18:16 Diomedes wrote:
He received a warning for typing 'pp'? But Leta got DQed for the same thing under the same rules?

Coach entering the booth, what was he thinking? And how did the ref not notice that and act upon it?

Good actions by Kespa.

do you even read the thread? he didn't get a warning for typing "pp." he got it because he was supposed to check his equipment beforehand. and the rules have changed since the Leta incident.

...
Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 09:29:12
May 21 2009 09:26 GMT
#56
That's just what people assumed.

I can't read korean and the OP didn't mention it. It says he typed ''pp' which ought to mean you get DQed right away.

"Ref checked and he got a warning"

"It's unclear why he got a warning"

"He got a warning because kespa is gay"

"KeSPA gave him a warning instead of a DQ for typing 'pp'."

...
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
May 21 2009 09:29 GMT
#57
Okay added in the OP to avoid confusion
POGGERS
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
May 21 2009 09:43 GMT
#58
On May 21 2009 14:36 p4NDemik wrote:
Previous situations have seen the refs hamstrung by poor rules that they had to uphold, but this was just a poor judgment call on the part of the ref. Seems like the correct measures are being taken.

I wonder what happens if it's the other way round: a referee taking a decision that is fine with the coaches, players, fans, and common sense, but against the KeSPA rules. What will they do?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
May 21 2009 09:48 GMT
#59
On May 21 2009 18:43 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 14:36 p4NDemik wrote:
Previous situations have seen the refs hamstrung by poor rules that they had to uphold, but this was just a poor judgment call on the part of the ref. Seems like the correct measures are being taken.

I wonder what happens if it's the other way round: a referee taking a decision that is fine with the coaches, players, fans, and common sense, but against the KeSPA rules. What will they do?

Everyone gets DQ'd
POGGERS
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
May 21 2009 10:00 GMT
#60
At first after reading the title I thought the ref who DQ'ed GoRush and Leta was gonna get disciplined. So disappointing...
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
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