Shinhan 08-09 Proleague Overall Ranking of Players

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United States4549 Posts

May 15 2009 02:45 GMT

Shinhan 08-09 Proleague Overall Ranking of Players TO DATE

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08-09 Proleague Overall Wins by Race
Overall Terran Wins
1. (T)

Flash - 42 Wins
2. (T)

Leta - 36 Wins
3. (T)

HiyA - 31 Wins
4. (T)

Really - 26 Wins
4. (T)

Light - 26 Wins
Overall Protoss Wins
1. (P)

Bisu - 42 Wins
2. (P)

free - 29 Wins
3. (P)

BeSt - 27 Wins
4. (P)

Kal - 26 Wins
5. (P)

JangBi - 25 Wins
Overall Zerg Wins
1. (Z)

Jaedong - 41 Wins
2. (Z)

Calm - 31 Wins
3. (Z)

ZerO - 28 Wins
3. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] - 28 Wins
3. (Z)

hyvaa - 28 Wins

08-09 Proleague Race Matchup Rankings
T v T
1. (T)

Flash - 20 wins
2. (T)

Leta - 18 Wins
3. (T)

HiyA - 11 Wins
3. (T)

Really - 11 Wins
3. (T)

Light - 11 Wins
T v P
1. (T)

Flash - 16 Wins
2. (T)

HiyA - 15 Wins
3. (T)

Mind - 8 Wins
3. (T)

Leta - 8 Wins
3. (T)

fantasy - 8 Wins
T v Z
1. (T)

Light - 10 Wins
1. (T)

Leta - 10 Wins
3. (T)

Really - 8 Wins
3. (T)

Iris - 8 Wins
3. (T)

firebathero - 8 wins

P v P
1. (P)

Bisu - 15 Wins
2. (P)

Kal - 9 Wins
3. (P)

BeSt - 8 Wins
4. (P)

Anytime - 6 Wins
4. (P)

Stork - 6 Wins
P v T
1. (P)

free - 13 Wins
2. (P)

BeSt - 11 Wins
3. (P)

Stork - 10 Wins
4. (P)

Bisu - 9 Wins
4. (P)

JangBi - 9 Wins
P v Z
1. (P)

Bisu - 18 Wins
2. (P)

Kal - 11 Wins
3. (P)

free - 10 Wins
3. (P)

JangBi - 10 Wins
5. (P)

BeSt - 8 wins

Z v Z
1. (Z)

Jaedong - 18 Wins
2. (Z)

ZerO - 13 Wins
3. (Z)

hyvaa - 12 Wins
4. (Z)

Calm - 11 Wins
4. (Z)

great - 11 Wins
Z v T
1. (Z)

Jaedong - 16 Wins
2. (Z)

Calm - 12 Wins
3. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] - 10 Wins
4. (Z)

ZerO - 9 Wins
5. (Z)

hyvaa - 8 Wins
Z v P
1. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] - 9 Wins
1. (Z)

July - 9 Wins
3. (Z)

Calm - 8 Wins
3. (Z)

hyvaa - 8 Wins
5. (Z)

Jaedong - 7 Wins
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Shinhan Proleague 08-09 Overall Wins by Race
Overall Terran Wins
1. (T)

Flash - 42 Wins
2. (T)

Leta - 38 Wins +2
3. (T)

HiyA - 31 Wins
4. (T)

Really - 27 Wins +1
4. (T)

Light - 27 Wins +1
Overall Protoss Wins
1. (P)

Bisu - 44 Wins +2
2. (P)

free - 30 Wins +1
3. (P)

BeSt - 28 Wins +1
4. (P)

Kal - 27 Wins +1
4. (P)

JangBi - 27 Wins +2
Overall Zerg Wins
1. (Z)

Jaedong - 43 Wins +2
2. (Z)

Calm - 31 Wins
3. (Z)

hyvaa - 30 Wins +2
4. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] - 29 Wins +1
5. (Z)

ZerO - 28 Wins

08-09 Proleague Race Matchup Rankings
T v T
1. (T)

Flash - 20 wins
2. (T)

Leta - 18 Wins
3. (T)

Really - 11 Wins
4. (T)

HiyA - 11 Wins
4. (T)

Light - 11 Wins
T v P
1. (T)

Flash - 16 Wins
2. (T)

HiyA - 15 Wins
3. (T)

fantasy - 10 Wins +2
4. (T)

Leta - 8 Wins
4. (T)

Mind - 8 Wins
T v Z
1. (T)

Leta - 12 Wins +2
2. (T)

Light - 11 Wins +1
3. (T)

Really - 8 Wins
3. (T)

Iris - 8 Wins
3. (T)

firebathero - 8 wins

P v P
1. (P)

Bisu - 15 Wins
2. (P)

Kal - 9 Wins
3. (P)

BeSt - 8 Wins
4. (P)

SangHo - 7 Wins
4. (P)

free - 7 Wins
P v T
1. (P)

free - 13 Wins
2. (P)

BeSt - 12 Wins +1
3. (P)

Stork - 11 Wins +1
4. (P)

JangBi - 10 Wins +1
5. (P)

Bisu - 9 Wins
P v Z
1. (P)

Bisu - 20 Wins +2
2. (P)

Kal - 11 Wins
2. (P)

JangBi - 11 Wins +1
4. (P)

free - 10 Wins
5. (P)

BeSt - 8 wins

Z v Z
1. (Z)

Jaedong - 20 Wins +2
2. (Z)

ZerO - 13 Wins
2. (Z)

hyvaa - 13 Wins +1
4. (Z)

Calm - 11 Wins
4. (Z)

great - 11 Wins
Z v T
1. (Z)

Jaedong - 16 Wins
2. (Z)

Calm - 12 Wins
3. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] - 10 Wins
4. (Z)

ZerO - 9 Wins
4. (Z)

hyvaa - 9 Wins +1
Z v P
1. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] - 9 Wins
1. (Z)

July - 9 Wins
3. (Z)

Calm - 8 Wins
3. (Z)

hyvaa - 8 Wins
5. (Z)

Jaedong - 7 Wins

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CURRENTLY as of 05/27/09
08-09 Proleague Overall Wins by Race
Overall Terran Wins
1. (T)

Flash - 43 Wins +1
2. (T)

Leta - 38 Wins
3. (T)

HiyA - 31 Wins
4. (T)

Light - 28 Wins +1
5. (T)

Really - 27 Wins
Overall Protoss Wins
1. (P)

Bisu - 44 Wins
2. (P)

free - 30 Wins
3. (P)

BeSt - 28 Wins
4. (P)

JangBi - 28 Wins +1
5. (P)

Kal - 27 Wins
Overall Zerg Wins
1. (Z)

Jaedong - 44 Wins +1
2. (Z)

Calm - 32 Wins +1
3. (Z)

hyvaa - 30 Wins
4. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] - 29 Wins
5. (Z)

ZerO - 28 Wins

08-09 Proleague Race Matchup Rankings
T v T
1. (T)

Flash - 21 wins +1
2. (T)

Leta - 18 Wins
3. (T)

Really - 12 Wins +1
4. (T)

HiyA - 11 Wins
4. (T)

Light - 11 Wins
T v P
1. (T)

Flash - 16 Wins
2. (T)

HiyA - 15 Wins
3. (T)

fantasy - 10 Wins
4. (T)

Leta - 8 Wins
4. (T)

Mind - 8 Wins
T v Z
1. (T)

Leta - 12 Wins
2. (T)

Light - 11 Wins
3. (T)

Really - 8 Wins
3. (T)

Iris - 8 Wins
3. (T)

firebathero - 8 wins

P v P
1. (P)

Bisu - 15 Wins
2. (P)

Kal - 9 Wins
3. (P)

BeSt - 8 Wins
4. (P)

SangHo - 7 Wins
4. (P)

free - 7 Wins
P v T
1. (P)

free - 13 Wins
2. (P)

BeSt - 12 Wins
3. (P)

Stork - 11 Wins
4. (P)

JangBi - 10 Wins
5. (P)

Bisu - 9 Wins
P v Z
1. (P)

Bisu - 20 Wins
2. (P)

JangBi - 12 Wins +1
3. (P)

Kal - 11 Wins
4. (P)

free - 10 Wins
5. (P)

BeSt - 8 wins

Z v Z
1. (Z)

Jaedong - 21 Wins +1
2. (Z)

ZerO - 13 Wins
2. (Z)

hyvaa - 13 Wins
4. (Z)

Calm - 11 Wins
4. (Z)

great - 11 Wins
Z v T
1. (Z)

Jaedong - 16 Wins
2. (Z)

Calm - 12 Wins
3. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] - 10 Wins
4. (Z)

ZerO - 9 Wins
4. (Z)

hyvaa - 9 Wins
Z v P
1. (Z)

Calm - 9 Wins +1
1. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] - 9 Wins
1. (Z)

July - 9 Wins
4. (Z)

hyvaa - 8 Wins
5. (Z)

Jaedong - 7 Wins

Click for Winning Percentage Leaders!
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On May 26 2009 00:03 Musoeun wrote:
I'd update this in the original post I made, but I dunno if anyone would actually scroll down to see it, so it's here:

UNOFFICIAL Shinhan Bank Proleague 08-09 Winning Percentage Leaders

Overall
(minimum 25 games)
All
1. (P)

Bisu (80%) [-1%]
2. (T)

Flash (73%) [-2%]
3. (Z)

Jaedong (72%) [+1%]
4. (T)

Leta (70%) [+1,+2%]
5. (Z)

July (68%) [-1]
Protoss
1. (P)

Bisu (80%) [-1%]
2. (P)

JangBi (65%) [+1,+2%]
3. (P)

free[gm] (61%) [+1,-1%]
4. (P)

BeSt (61%) [-2,-2%]
5. (P)

Stork (57%) [*]
Terran
1. (T)

Flash (73%) [-2%]
2. (T)

Leta (70%) [+2%]
3. (T)

Light (65%) [+2,+2%]
4. (T)

Iris (65%) [-1,-2%]
5. (T)

HiyA (63%) [-1,-3%]
Zerg
1. (Z)

Jaedong (72%) [+1%]
2. (Z)

July (68%)
3. (Z)

Calm (64%) [+1,-1%]
4. (Z)

EffOrt (63%) [*]
5. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] (61%)

Race Matchups
(minimum 8 games in matchup)
PvP
1. (P)

Bisu (75%) [-4%]
2. (P)

JangBi (67%) [-1%]
3. (P)

SangHo (58%) [*]
4. (P)

BeSt (57%) [-5%]
5. (P)

Much (56%) [-2,-6%]
PvT
1. (P)

Bisu (82%)
2. (P)

BeSt (75%) [+2%]
3. (P)

Stork (73%) [+2%]
4. (P)

JangBi (69%) [+1%]
5. (P)

free[gm] (65%)
PvZ
1. (P)

Bisu (83%) [+1%]
2. (P)

Kal (65%) [-4%]
3. (P)

free[gm] (63%)
4. (P)

JangBi (62%) [+4%]
5. (P)

BeSt (50%) [-3%]

TvP
1. (T)

fantasy (77%) [+2,+4%]
2. (T)

HiyA (75%) [-4%]
3. (T)

Flash (73%) [-2,-7%]
4. (T)

Iris (67%) [-1%]
5. (T)

Sea (64%)
TvT
1. (T)

Flash (81%) [+1%]
2. (T)

Leta (78%)
3. (T)

UpMaGiC (75%)
4. (T)

Light (65%)
5. (T)

sKyHigh (63%)
TvZ
1. (T)

Leta (80%) [+3%]
2. (T)

sKyHigh (75%) [*]
3. (T)

Iris (73%) [-1]
4. (T)

Light (71%) [-1,+2%]
5. (T)

Mind (67%) [-1]

ZvP
1. (Z)

July (100%)
2. (Z)

Calm (82%) [+2%]
3. (Z)

EffOrt (64%) [*]
3. (Z)

by.great (64%) [+2]
5. (Z)

GGPlay (63%) [*]
5. (Z)

OversKy (63%) [*]
ZvT
1. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] (73%) [+2%]
2. (Z)

Calm (71%) [+1%]
3. (Z)

Jaedong (70%) [+1]
4. (Z)

sAviOr (67%) [+1]
4. (Z)

July (67%) [*]
ZvZ
1. (Z)

Jaedong (84%) [+2%]
2. (Z)

hyvaa (70%) [+3%]
3. (Z)

EffOrt (67%)
4. (Z)

Nal_keke (58%) [*]
5. (Z)

by.great (58%) [-7%]

* denotes a new player on the ranking.
[+/-,+/-%] indicates changes since the last ranking

Big news:

OversKy forces me to include 6 players in a best 5 ranking.

UPDATED on 07/08/09!
Thank you Emlary!

On July 08 2009 14:15 Emlary wrote:
Latest ranking (July 7)

Rank ID Win/Loss Ratio
01. (P)

Bisu 53/14 79.1%
01. (T)

Flash 53/19 73.6%
01. (Z)

Jaedong 53/21 71.6%
04. (T)

Leta 47/21 69.1%
05. (Z)

Calm 40/21 65.6%
06. (T)

Light 36/17 67.9%
07. (P)

free 35/23 60.3%
08. (P)

Kal 34/23 59.6%
09. (Z)

EffOrt 33/17 66.0%
09. (T)

Really 33/31 51.6%
11. (P)

BeSt 32/20 61.5%
11. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] 32/21 60.4%
11. (T)

HiyA 32/24 57.1%
11. (Z)

hyvaa 32/33 49.2%
15. (P)

JangBi 30/21 58.8%
15. (Z)

ZerO 30/31 49.2%
17. (T)

fantasy 29/21 58.0%
17. (P)

Stork 29/22 56.9%
19. (T)

Mind 28/22 56.0%
20. (Z)

great 27/17 61.4%

--
Let me know if you spot a mistake!
Taken from fomos.kr

Elyvilon

United States13143 Posts

May 15 2009 02:51 GMT

Thanks for this!

how does Yarnc have the most ZvP wins? Seriously, how does that happen?

EDIT: Also, this is total wins, not win-loss ratio or wins minus losses or anything like that, right?

Smix

United States4549 Posts

May 15 2009 03:00 GMT

On May 15 2009 11:51 Elyvilon wrote:
Thanks for this!

how does Yarnc have the most ZvP wins? Seriously, how does that happen?

EDIT: Also, this is total wins, not win-loss ratio or wins minus losses or anything like that, right?

Yea, this is just the raw total of wins

RedTerror

New Zealand742 Posts

May 15 2009 03:06 GMT

Lol at Flash Bisu and Jaedong being so far ahead

Those three need some sort of name

sixghost

United States2096 Posts

May 15 2009 03:12 GMT

Wow luxury isn't in a single zerg category

wswordsmen

United States987 Posts

May 15 2009 03:27 GMT

Amazing how bad Flash's TvZ has been this Proleague. He is the only one who is #1 in two of the three match ups to not appear on the third's top 5

Ver

United States2186 Posts

May 15 2009 03:42 GMT

The Top 3 are ridiculous.

The matchup lists are somewhat biased by luck.

I,e Flash has definitely had the best TvZ over the course of all 4 rounds but he simply has not been matched up against Zergs very often. Free is #1 PvT despite having by far the worst PvT on that list. Yarnc's ZvP is worse than every single person below him (somewhat debatable with calm/hyvaa who are unproven whereas Yarnc is just proven to be bad) but he's played a lot of crappy P's, etc.

In certain matchups it does show some things though. Flash, Hiya, and Fantasy are so far above everyone else in TvP and the latter simply didn't do well in proleague for awhile.

ShaLLoW[baY]

Canada12499 Posts

May 15 2009 03:48 GMT

On May 15 2009 12:27 wswordsmen wrote:
Amazing how bad Flash's TvZ has been this Proleague. He is the only one who is #1 in two of the three match ups to not appear on the third's top 5

Yeah, his terrible, terrible 0-2 record really raises a few eyebrows,

Musoeun

United States4324 Posts

May 15 2009 04:41 GMT

Just for comparison, here are your top fives by Proleague winning percentage.

UNOFFICIAL Shinhan Bank Proleague 08-09 Ranking of Players by Winning Percentage

Overall
(minimum 25 games*)
All
1. (P)

Bisu (81%)
2. (T)

Flash (75%)
3. (Z)

Jaedong (71%)
4. (Z)

July (68%)
5. (T)

Leta (68%)
Protoss
1. (P)

Bisu (81%)
2. (P)

BeSt (63%)
3. (P)

JangBi (63%)
4. (P)

free[gm] (62%)
5. (P)

Kal (58%)
Terran
1. (T)

Flash (75%)
2. (T)

Leta (68%)
3. (T)

Iris (67%)
4. (T)

HiyA (66%)
5. (T)

Light (63%)
Zerg
1. (Z)

Jaedong (71%)
2. (Z)

July (68%)
3. (Z)

by.great (65%)
4. (Z)

Calm (65%)
5. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] (61%)

Race Matchups
(minimum 8 games*)
PvP
1. (P)

Bisu (79%)
2. (P)

JangBi (68%)
3. (P)

Much (63%)
4. (P)

BeSt (62%)
5. (P)

Anytime (60%)
PvT
1. (P)

Bisu (82%)
2. (P)

BeSt (73%)
3. (P)

Stork (71%)
4. (P)

JangBi (68%)
5. (P)

free[gm] (65%)
PvZ
1. (P)

Bisu (82%)
2. (P)

Kal (69%)
3. (P)

free[gm] (63%)
4. (P)

JangBi (58%)
5. (P)

BeSt (53%)

TvP
1. (T)

Flash (80%)
2. (T)

HiyA (79%)
3. (T)

fantasy (73%)
4. (T)

Iris (68%)
5. (T)

Sea (64%)
TvT
1. (T)

Flash (80%)
2. (T)

Leta (78%)
3. (T)

UpMaGiC (75%)
4. (T)

Light (65%)
5. (T)

sKyHigh (63%)
TvZ
1. (T)

Leta (77%)
2. (T)

Iris (73%)
3. (T)

Light (69%)
4. (T)

Mind (67%)
5. (T)

UpMaGiC (58%)

ZvP
1. (Z)

July (100%)
2. (Z)

Calm (80%)
3. (Z)

Nal_keke (75%)
4. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] (64%)
5. (Z)

by.great (64%)
ZvT
1. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] (71%)
2. (Z)

Calm (71%)
3. (Z)

RorO (70%)
4. (Z)

Jaedong (70%)
5. (Z)

sAviOr (67%)
ZvZ
1. (Z)

Jaedong (82%)
2. (Z)

hyvaa (67%)
2. (Z)

EffOrt (67%)
4. (Z)

by.great (65%)
5. (Z)

sAviOr (63%)

* I realize these cut-offs are somewhat arbitrary, but a) they seem to reflect reality best and b) there is some thought behind them. 25 games represents just over 6 games a round (so far), making it a good barometer for "does this guy really matter to the team?". 8 wins represents 1/3 of 6 games a round.

Rostam

United States2552 Posts

May 15 2009 04:44 GMT

#10

On May 15 2009 13:41 Musoeun wrote:
ZvP
1. (Z)

July (100%)

ArvickHero

10387 Posts

May 15 2009 04:49 GMT

#11

Geez, Bisu has a crazy winning percentage, topping all categories he's in, and only one matchup below 80%, and its a 79%

thunk

United States6233 Posts

May 15 2009 04:52 GMT

#12

On May 15 2009 12:42 Ver wrote:
The Top 3 are ridiculous.

The matchup lists are somewhat biased by luck.

I,e Flash has definitely had the best TvZ over the course of all 4 rounds but he simply has not been matched up against Zergs very often. Free is #1 PvT despite having by far the worst PvT on that list. Yarnc's ZvP is worse than every single person below him (somewhat debatable with calm/hyvaa who are unproven whereas Yarnc is just proven to be bad) but he's played a lot of crappy P's, etc.

In certain matchups it does show some things though. Flash, Hiya, and Fantasy are so far above everyone else in TvP and the latter simply didn't do well in proleague for awhile.

Absolutely. I think that Flash was put out on maps like Medusa and other T-weighted maps that put him in a lot of TvPs and TvTs, but not so many TvZs.

Bisu is not going to be put on maps that incur PvTs (although it perhaps be a weak matchup of his) because they have several viable options to beat T players, like Best, Fantasy, pretty much everyone's good against T on SKT1.

Probably more telling is the percentages, but those are equally biased because of how people haven't played very many leagues.

But 42 wins is more wins that I've gotten on Iccup since I came back, haha.

Thnaks for translation Smix.

fnaticNoname

India858 Posts

May 15 2009 05:17 GMT

#13

Great to see HiyA (woot Oz pride) ranked up 3rd there, his recent showing and in the round before have really helped him. Also nice to see ZerO & free up there.

Thanks for the translations Mr. Smix!

Trezeguet

United States2656 Posts

May 15 2009 05:20 GMT

#14

I know you guys are saying that flash has great TvZ and the reason that he isn't in the top 5 for wins is just that he hasn't played that many TvZs, but look at his win rate compared to the other Ts...

Rostam

United States2552 Posts

May 15 2009 05:55 GMT

#15

On May 15 2009 14:20 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I know you guys are saying that flash has great TvZ and the reason that he isn't in the top 5 for wins is just that he hasn't played that many TvZs, but look at his win rate compared to the other Ts...

Look at his opponents. The only weak zerg player that Flash has even faced in this entire PL season is Hyuk, who he beat. One third of his TvZs in this proleague season have been against Jaedong.

Nanoo

229 Posts

May 15 2009 06:14 GMT

#16

On May 15 2009 14:17 fnaticNoname wrote:
Great to see HiyA (woot Oz pride) ranked up 3rd there, his recent showing and in the round before have really helped him. Also nice to see ZerO & free up there.

Thanks for the translations Mr. Smix!

she's a girl iirc...

same as u, nice to see hiya there...^^

Lachrymose

Australia1928 Posts

May 15 2009 06:38 GMT

#17

81%...is a lot.

Musoeun

United States4324 Posts

May 15 2009 12:54 GMT

#18

On May 15 2009 14:55 Rostam wrote:
Look at his opponents. The only weak zerg player that Flash has even faced in this entire PL season is Hyuk, who he beat. One third of his TvZs in this proleague season have been against Jaedong.

It's not like Flash's TvZ is in any way, shape, or form bad. But this is intriguing, because if we pare down the record a little bit:

vs. Jaedong: 1-2 (1-3 counting the WL Playoffs).
vs. all other Zergs: 5-3.

Compared to his ranking in the other matchups, this is a huge dropoff, even if it is due to the "luck" of not playing many TvZs.

To make a point about why this doesn't really matter: You can make the same point for Jaedong's ZvP... now, is Jaedong's ZvP a weak matchup? Nooo. Whatever the stats say, Jaedong is still favored against any Protoss except Bisu (maybe) in a best-of, and against anyone except Bisu, free, and Kal (let's say) in a single game, and there are how many better ZvPers? July, maybe.

Similarly, Flash may have odd-looking results, but he's still favored against any Zerg except Jaedong in a best-of, and while the list of Zergs who could maybe be favored to take him in a single game is a little longer than Jaedong's list of Protosses, there really aren't many better TvZers - maybe Leta and UpMagic?

konadora

Singapore66359 Posts

May 15 2009 12:55 GMT

#19

Bisu <3

alffla

Hong Kong20321 Posts

May 15 2009 13:01 GMT

#20

thank u smix [누나] (perhaps?)

Hammy

France828 Posts

May 15 2009 13:06 GMT

#21

July... gotta love him : )

Smix

United States4549 Posts

May 15 2009 13:12 GMT

#22

On May 15 2009 22:01 alffla wrote:
thank u smix [누나] (perhaps?)

Haha nope

Magic84

Russian Federation1381 Posts

May 15 2009 13:18 GMT

#23

Didn't realize Hiya has so many wins.

SuperArc

Austria7781 Posts

May 15 2009 13:53 GMT

#24

Wow, awesome idea to put that up, Smix!

I love July's ZvP record. :p

FirstBorn

Romania3955 Posts

May 15 2009 14:30 GMT

#25

Thanks for the translations Smix!

Gotta love July, keeping himself at 100% against protoss.

konadora

Singapore66359 Posts

May 15 2009 14:31 GMT

#26

On May 15 2009 23:30 FirstBorn wrote:
Thanks for the translations Smix!

Gotta love July, keeping himself at 100% against protoss.

Haha yeah, the only 100% :3

Holgerius

Sweden16951 Posts

May 15 2009 16:11 GMT

#27

Flash, Jaedong and Bisu are really proving that they're the masters of their respective races. The only one who is doing a somewhat decent job of trailing behind them is Leta.

d3_crescentia

United States4054 Posts

May 15 2009 16:48 GMT

#28

JULYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

<3 smix

HooHa!

United States688 Posts

May 15 2009 17:09 GMT

#29

1. (P)Bisu - 42 Wins
2. (P)free - 29 Wins

Wow, look at the differences in wins. 13!!!!

That is just insane.

This is like, the craziest time in starcraft. Because Jaedong Flash and Bisu are so closely matched that its like they are THE guys to watch. If you want to get better at the game or watch the highest level matchups. Watch those guys. They are probably hunted down more than anyone in the game, and it would take everything you have to beat them.

Flash isn't on the tvz list, but that is okay, he is still a monster nonetheless in that matchup. His Mirror matchup is unparalleled.

Hurray for july 100%!!!!

Shizuru~

Malaysia1676 Posts

May 15 2009 20:42 GMT

#30

I think we can safely assume that the current King/Emperor/Master of each respective race is Flash, Bisu and Jaedong, and the fact that they are doing so ridiculously well compared to other players is why this generations od pro-gamers are my personal favorite to watch, its not like just 1 guy dominating and wtfpwns everything, we got 3 heavenly kings right up there at the seemingly untouchable peaks...

Although Leta the miracle boy is doing 1 hell of a job catching up to them! speaking of personalities, Bisu is my current favorite, he has this prince esque aura around him, one can see it as class or confidence... or arrogance, while jaedong has those murderous aura, a killer presence!, while flash... kinda lacks of a personality really, all those facial twitching just made him look..... mechanical

Great work of these analysis, must have spent quite some time working on them

and btw... whatever happened to all the samsung players? -.-||

Mah Buckit!

Finland474 Posts

May 15 2009 21:29 GMT

#31

On May 15 2009 13:44 Rostam wrote:

Show nested quote +

July eats Tossflakes for breakfast.

blue_arrow

1971 Posts

May 16 2009 04:02 GMT

#32

Thanks for translation

This list should definitely be continuously updated in the PL R&S

Smix

United States4549 Posts

May 22 2009 02:17 GMT

#33

Updated with latest stats!

Initial_H.C.

Canada560 Posts

May 22 2009 05:20 GMT

#34

Didn't expect to see BeSt make it to top 5 PvZ list.

JIJIyO

Canada1957 Posts

May 22 2009 06:35 GMT

#35

Iris only CJ there, and only one matchup =(

Perhaps this is a good thing since it shows CJ doesn't always have to depend on one player =D

cujo2k

Canada1044 Posts

May 22 2009 07:29 GMT

#36

On May 22 2009 15:35 JIJIyO wrote:
Iris only CJ there, and only one matchup =(

Perhaps this is a good thing since it shows CJ doesn't always have to depend on one player =D

skyhigh and effort will probably be there next season imo.

Roffles

Pitcairn19291 Posts

May 22 2009 07:38 GMT

#37

Haha, July 9-0 in ZvP. After being on the scene for 4-5 years, he's still got the magic touch at ZvP.

hstar

Vietnam2 Posts

May 22 2009 07:49 GMT

#38

Two greatest game till now:
Leta
Bisu

Dr.Green

Philippines264 Posts

May 22 2009 07:53 GMT

#39

bisu is a monster

Wohmfg

United Kingdom1292 Posts

May 22 2009 08:09 GMT

#40

Thanks for the translation!

Wow Bisu, sick... Good to see Upmagic on there, barely lol. :D

seppolevne

Canada1681 Posts

May 22 2009 09:09 GMT

#41

Wow Bisu and Jaedong are way ahead of their competition.
Thanks Smix!

SlayerS_BunkiE

Canada1715 Posts

May 22 2009 12:12 GMT

#42

thanks smix and thanks to musoeun for the winning percentages...

wow to bisu, jd, and flash... all of them are monsters!!!

Musoeun

United States4324 Posts

May 25 2009 15:03 GMT

#43

I'd update this in the original post I made, but I dunno if anyone would actually scroll down to see it, so it's here:

UNOFFICIAL Shinhan Bank Proleague 08-09 Winning Percentage Leaders

Overall
(minimum 25 games)
All
1. (P)

Bisu (80%) [-1%]
2. (T)

Flash (73%) [-2%]
3. (Z)

Jaedong (72%) [+1%]
4. (T)

Leta (70%) [+1,+2%]
5. (Z)

July (68%) [-1]
Protoss
1. (P)

Bisu (80%) [-1%]
2. (P)

JangBi (65%) [+1,+2%]
3. (P)

free[gm] (61%) [+1,-1%]
4. (P)

BeSt (61%) [-2,-2%]
5. (P)

Stork (57%) [*]
Terran
1. (T)

Flash (73%) [-2%]
2. (T)

Leta (70%) [+2%]
3. (T)

Light (65%) [+2,+2%]
4. (T)

Iris (65%) [-1,-2%]
5. (T)

HiyA (63%) [-1,-3%]
Zerg
1. (Z)

Jaedong (72%) [+1%]
2. (Z)

July (68%)
3. (Z)

Calm (64%) [+1,-1%]
4. (Z)

EffOrt (63%) [*]
5. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] (61%)

Race Matchups
(minimum 8 games in matchup)
PvP
1. (P)

Bisu (75%) [-4%]
2. (P)

JangBi (67%) [-1%]
3. (P)

SangHo (58%) [*]
4. (P)

BeSt (57%) [-5%]
5. (P)

Much (56%) [-2,-6%]
PvT
1. (P)

Bisu (82%)
2. (P)

BeSt (75%) [+2%]
3. (P)

Stork (73%) [+2%]
4. (P)

JangBi (69%) [+1%]
5. (P)

free[gm] (65%)
PvZ
1. (P)

Bisu (83%) [+1%]
2. (P)

Kal (65%) [-4%]
3. (P)

free[gm] (63%)
4. (P)

JangBi (62%) [+4%]
5. (P)

BeSt (50%) [-3%]

TvP
1. (T)

fantasy (77%) [+2,+4%]
2. (T)

HiyA (75%) [-4%]
3. (T)

Flash (73%) [-2,-7%]
4. (T)

Iris (67%) [-1%]
5. (T)

Sea (64%)
TvT
1. (T)

Flash (81%) [+1%]
2. (T)

Leta (78%)
3. (T)

UpMaGiC (75%)
4. (T)

Light (65%)
5. (T)

sKyHigh (63%)
TvZ
1. (T)

Leta (80%) [+3%]
2. (T)

sKyHigh (75%) [*]
3. (T)

Iris (73%) [-1]
4. (T)

Light (71%) [-1,+2%]
5. (T)

Mind (67%) [-1]

ZvP
1. (Z)

July (100%)
2. (Z)

Calm (82%) [+2%]
3. (Z)

EffOrt (64%) [*]
3. (Z)

by.great (64%) [+2]
5. (Z)

GGPlay (63%) [*]
5. (Z)

OversKy (63%) [*]
ZvT
1. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] (73%) [+2%]
2. (Z)

Calm (71%) [+1%]
3. (Z)

Jaedong (70%) [+1]
4. (Z)

sAviOr (67%) [+1]
4. (Z)

July (67%) [*]
ZvZ
1. (Z)

Jaedong (84%) [+2%]
2. (Z)

hyvaa (70%) [+3%]
3. (Z)

EffOrt (67%)
4. (Z)

Nal_keke (58%) [*]
5. (Z)

by.great (58%) [-7%]

* denotes a new player on the ranking.
[+/-,+/-%] indicates changes since the last ranking

Big news:

OversKy forces me to include 6 players in a best 5 ranking.

Orbifold

United States1922 Posts

May 25 2009 22:54 GMT

#44

I really can't figure out what makes (Z)

July's ZvP so amazing. I don't mean that in a bad way, it's just that when I watch his VODs I can't really see any major things he does differently. I'm also pretty confused why what ever he's doing is so inapplicable to his TvZ.

I'm a barely C Terran and I don't really play Zerg at all, so I'm sure I'm just missing something. I've been really curious about this lately though, so if anyone could explain it to me I would appreciate it.

kNife

Malaysia70 Posts

May 26 2009 08:36 GMT

#45

july<3<3
prO!!

FaCE_1

Canada6184 Posts

May 26 2009 10:37 GMT

#46

wow.. bisu is on rampage mode lol, no other protoss are near him

Nice doing by July !

SuperArc

Austria7781 Posts

May 26 2009 10:53 GMT

#47

On May 26 2009 07:54 Orbifold wrote:
I really can't figure out what makes (Z)

He usually plays very suicidal.

ama-cms

Finland164 Posts

May 26 2009 11:40 GMT

#48

bisu is inhuman omfg... roflmao. :D

DoX.)

Singapore6164 Posts

May 26 2009 11:47 GMT

#49

lol july <3

Smix

United States4549 Posts

May 27 2009 07:12 GMT

#50

Updated again!

mrgerry

United States1508 Posts

May 28 2009 05:43 GMT

#51

If only STX would start using July again i miss watching his playstyle especially zvt

Emlary

China3334 Posts

July 08 2009 05:15 GMT

#52

Latest ranking (July 7)

Rank ID Win/Loss Ratio
01. (P)

Bisu 53/14 79.1%
01. (T)

Flash 53/19 73.6%
01. (Z)

Jaedong 53/21 71.6%
04. (T)

Leta 47/21 69.1%
05. (Z)

Calm 40/21 65.6%
06. (T)

Light 36/17 67.9%
07. (P)

free 35/23 60.3%
08. (P)

Kal 34/23 59.6%
09. (Z)

EffOrt 33/17 66.0%
09. (T)

Really 33/31 51.6%
11. (P)

BeSt 32/20 61.5%
11. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] 32/21 60.4%
11. (T)

HiyA 32/24 57.1%
11. (Z)

hyvaa 32/33 49.2%
15. (P)

JangBi 30/21 58.8%
15. (Z)

ZerO 30/31 49.2%
17. (T)

fantasy 29/21 58.0%
17. (P)

Stork 29/22 56.9%
19. (T)

Mind 28/22 56.0%
20. (Z)

great 27/17 61.4%

Avidkeystamper

United States8556 Posts

July 08 2009 05:19 GMT

#53

Fantasy, Stork and Jangbi are unexpectedly low. Really is shockingly high, so is Calm and Light. Guess they truly are invisible.

Deleted User 37864

780 Posts

July 08 2009 05:21 GMT

#54

Nice!!!!
Thanks!!
I thought Flash and Jaedong were ahead of Bisu.
But...

+ Show Spoiler +

Flash and Jaedong have both lost two games in a row for PL.. so I guess that's why

cosiant

Canada616 Posts

July 08 2009 05:22 GMT

#55

It is good to see all the races having their representing players with the same amount of wins, even if they differ in the win/loss ratio.

Cambium

United States16368 Posts

July 08 2009 05:32 GMT

#56

On July 08 2009 14:15 Emlary wrote:
Latest ranking (July 7)

Rank ID Win/Loss Ratio
01. (P)

Bisu 53/14 79.1%
01. (T)

Flash 53/19 73.6%
01. (Z)

Jaedong 53/21 71.6%
04. (T)

Leta 47/21 69.1%
05. (Z)

Calm 40/21 65.6%
06. (T)

Light 36/17 67.9%
07. (P)

free 35/23 60.3%
08. (P)

Kal 34/23 59.6%
09. (Z)

EffOrt 33/17 66.0%
09. (T)

Really 33/31 51.6%
11. (P)

BeSt 32/20 61.5%
11. (Z)

YellOw[ArnC] 32/21 60.4%
11. (T)

HiyA 32/24 57.1%
11. (Z)

hyvaa 32/33 49.2%
15. (P)

JangBi 30/21 58.8%
15. (Z)

ZerO 30/31 49.2%
17. (T)

fantasy 29/21 58.0%
17. (P)

Stork 29/22 56.9%
19. (T)

Mind 28/22 56.0%
20. (Z)

great 27/17 61.4%

wow, go bisu~

FragKrag

United States11562 Posts

July 08 2009 05:33 GMT

#57

Woot JulyZerg represent!!

Smix

United States4549 Posts

July 08 2009 05:40 GMT

#58

Thank you Emlary! Added to op

538

Hungary3932 Posts

July 08 2009 09:21 GMT

#59

On July 08 2009 14:22 cosiant wrote:
It is good to see all the races having their representing players with the same amount of wins, even if they differ in the win/loss ratio.

Do you know what do I find truly beautiful? That the frst 3 spots have one race of each, the first 9 have 3 of each, and the first 12/15/18 also have an equal 4/5/6 players of each race respectively.
That is the beauty of the game, in numbers.

FirstBorn

Romania3955 Posts

July 08 2009 09:29 GMT

#60

Wow, Bisu's PL ration is insane!

disciple

9071 Posts

July 08 2009 09:32 GMT

#61

damn, even if bisu wins his next game he will be just below the 80% (somewhere around 79,8)

B1nary

Canada1267 Posts

July 08 2009 20:33 GMT

#62

Woot, go July!

Jaedong has JvZ, July has JvP =D

SuperArc

Austria7781 Posts

July 08 2009 21:04 GMT

#63

On July 08 2009 14:19 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Fantasy, Stork and Jangbi are unexpectedly low. Really is shockingly high, so is Calm and Light. Guess they truly are invisible.

fantasy sucked in WL, so did Stork

Husky

United States3362 Posts

July 08 2009 21:14 GMT

#64

stork

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