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[SPOILER] Hwaseung OZ vs. SK T1 WINNER Interviews! - Page 3

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Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
April 19 2009 20:24 GMT
#41
Oov and Fantasy better hope they never meet Jaedong near a staircase.
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
Profile Joined November 2008
United States190 Posts
April 19 2009 20:51 GMT
#42
JUST finished watching it. Utterly amazing.
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
April 19 2009 21:14 GMT
#43
Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.


FANTASY RATES JAEDONG A 2/10.
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 19 2009 21:48 GMT
#44
"This is just the beginning" <- watch out world.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
April 19 2009 21:57 GMT
#45
Thanks for the translation.

That match was really nice - TheZerg's game showed some unorthodox play, Bisu's game was a nice come back and Fantasy versus Jaedong was a really intense game.

The spooked-wheel map (Heartbreak ridge) has had some really, really exciting TvZs on it.
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HooHa!
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States688 Posts
April 19 2009 22:25 GMT
#46
skt1 has always been my favorite team. They are full of heroes. I mean come on, Fantasy, Bisu, oov, BOXER!

Thats good that The-Zerg won his matches. Its got to be tough being in the sk house when you are the only zerg there who is holding the torch to be a representative, and continually fails, and finally pulls through wins. Thats just great.

And theres too much to say about fantasy and bisu. I mean come on.. they are the best.
Hoo Ra!
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
April 19 2009 22:40 GMT
#47
On April 20 2009 01:42 StRyKeR wrote:
Fantasy will always prepare slightly-off brilliant builds against his opponents. That's always been his strength. He's bound to take some games here and there just due to the highly optimized nature of his specific builds. It's impossible for Jaedong to beat them all. But in the long run, I'm sure Jaedong will come out on top. Fantasy's letting this win get to his head.


You could argue that Fantasy is already doing this well while still having noticeable room for improvement in his control (and maybe even macro).

On the other hand, JD appears to be nearly maxed out in terms of his potential. All credit to JD's incredible skill and will for winning that OSL (and he gets credit in the form of an additional OSL...). But he was very close to losing and we'd all be singing a different tune in that case.

The last time we saw a Zerg repeatedly overcome the odds while walking an increasingly fine line in ZvT, it was Savior.

JD's "weakness" (if you can call it that) is his over-reliance on his control, and corresponding over-aggression, which results in him being less innovative (unless you count "build only Mutalisks" as an innovation ... where are the Queens nowadays??). Being innovative is one of those skills that seems to be pretty hard to learn, some progamers seem have it (Fantasy, UpMagic, and believe it or not, Flash even though people don't give him credit for it) and others don't.

It's not inconceivable that Fantasy's mechanics will improve a lot over the next six months. In what way can JD match this improvement?
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
April 19 2009 22:49 GMT
#48
Great interviews! Thanks as always for translating them.

I hope this really is just the beginning for TheZerg. I find him fun to watch and he plays unorthodox builds which is always my Achilles' heel when it comes to liking players.
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AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
April 19 2009 23:01 GMT
#49
lol fantasy xD confident said jaedong not that great

i guess he is rly wanna revenge in the next osl?
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
April 19 2009 23:06 GMT
#50
Hmm..Fantasy doesn't seem to be affected-or at least, not showing any disastrous mental setback-from his two 3-2 OSL Grand Final losses. That's a sign of a strong mentality there.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 19 2009 23:47 GMT
#51
lol geez, what's with everyone reading so much into that one comment.

Jaedong isn't bonjwa dominant, nor is anyone else. What's the big deal?
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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 00:05:18
April 19 2009 23:54 GMT
#52
4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8.


Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.

If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 20 2009 00:06 GMT
#53
On April 20 2009 02:23 Kentor wrote:
aw shit i get car sick too. never heard of medicine for it :p


Motion sickness most likely.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
April 20 2009 00:23 GMT
#54
On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:
4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8.

Show nested quote +

Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.

If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH.

JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me.
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
April 20 2009 00:32 GMT
#55
On April 20 2009 09:23 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:
4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8.


Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.

If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH.

JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me.


We can say the same thing about Fantasy, except that, him, he screwed up 3 games in a row.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 00:55:09
April 20 2009 00:54 GMT
#56
On April 20 2009 09:23 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:
4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8.


Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.

If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH.

JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me.

Jaedong loses -> He's not that great. Yes, that's a good philosophy, no one that plays the game is great.
I don't think there is anyway that a reasonable impartial person will not think that Fantasy is a little arrogant.
Jaedong
SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
418 Posts
April 20 2009 00:57 GMT
#57
On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:
4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8.

Show nested quote +

Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.

If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH.

1) it's a translation
2) Jaedong was not ahead, since he had no tech switch options, and really needed fantasy to not roll out, so he had to apply muta pressure to pin him in. Jaedong never 'suicided' his mutalisks
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Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
April 20 2009 01:37 GMT
#58
On April 20 2009 09:54 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2009 09:23 Dfgj wrote:
On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:
4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8.


Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.

If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH.

JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me.

Jaedong loses -> He's not that great.

Welcome to every Protoss anti-fan's opinion of Bisu.

Any way if you read back to an iloveoov interview, iloveoov once said that he intentionally sounds arrogant in his interviews to put psychological pressure on all his opponents in future matches.

Probably something he taught SKT1 members to do.
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KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 01:44:12
April 20 2009 01:41 GMT
#59
It's official: Fantasy is a genius. And yes I know his legendary peers help develop the builds for him.
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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
April 20 2009 01:44 GMT
#60
On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:
4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8.

Show nested quote +

Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.

If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH.


Shut up you have no idea about TvZ. 5 gas and 15 drones mining minerals is useless, especially with no hive tech (which would enable guardian use, at least, for ALL THAT GOSU GAS). Also he was suciding his mutalisk because he knew that if Fantasy is allowed to step out of his base, JD would lose (BECAUSE OF HIS LACK OF DRONES/OTHER ARMY). He was not ahead. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Also, if this would have been the first time I'd seen JD play, I wouldn't think he was "that great" either (and I'm a JD fan, don't get me wrong). The man just spoke of what he experienced. Looking forward for the rematch.
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