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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-31 22:39:40
March 31 2009 17:17 GMT
#81
Excellent job with the vids.


"EYE OF THE TIGER GREG, EYE OF THE TIGER!"


Great job though Idra, keep it up!
Chance favors the prepared mind.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
March 31 2009 17:49 GMT
#82
On March 31 2009 15:47 EscPlan9 wrote:
ScForAll seriously is the worst streaming site I've ever been on. I've never successfully streamed a single video there. Yes, I have right clicked and slid the bar to unlimited. Doesn't do shit. The only thing that works is directly downloading the FLV file whenever someone links it here.

doesn't work for me either =(
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
March 31 2009 18:05 GMT
#83
really cool!
Studying Chinese~
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
March 31 2009 18:18 GMT
#84
i think he could have beat that guy.
gg
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
groro
Profile Joined March 2009
67 Posts
March 31 2009 19:21 GMT
#85
On April 01 2009 02:05 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Confidence is not something you either have or not. It is something you can learn, and gradually gain. You have to be comfortable with who you are. In every video I have seen of Idra he seems to be really quiet, and speak really fast with short answers. Then when I played a few games against him, he seemed to talk a lot more. It gives me the impression that he has low self esteem. This is not something that "you either have or you don't". Sure in this video, he seemed to be really nervous, even when he claims he's not. So that can definitely factor into a bit of how he acted.

But now, that he has made it to be on TV, he can calm down a little bit. Hell, he already made it. He made it onto TV in Korea. There's nothing to be shy about, or nervous, or have low self esteem. He can relax, calm down, and realize that he is living his dream, of going to Korea and playing televised games against top tier professional gamers.


You didnt talked of "you either have it or you don't" in the context I wanted to refer to. I am talking about the particular moments. For example right before the show starts. What does it help to tell him in this moments he needs confidence, he should not be nervous and so on? Applied to THIS point he either got it or not. I never said that if you got no confidence then you are doomed to it forever. The difference I made was in the ways how you get more confidence and how certainly not.

When you got problems with your confidence you are the first person who experience the lack of it and you gain nothing by analysing yourself with deep thoughts. Do you think all this are rare smart thoughts that never came in Idras own mind if he got problems with it? Or it is: “Oh, I lack confidence. Mhm..but I have nothing to be ashamed of?! To bad I forgot it this time!” And after that all is different? As I said, the only way you learn confidence is by gaining positive experience, recognition and routine. Applied to this its counterproductive when you got only people around you which are mothering you, questioning your confidence and make a possible lack of it all the time to a subject.

Some people are to a certain extent also naturally shy and silent persons and either way it is not their feature and strength to talk all the time and entertain other people. So beeing shy is not in any case a disease you must cure immediately at any cost and when somebody got low self-esteem or is often to nervous, then again, the best thing as a friend you can do is accept him, do things together with him, give some feedback in a positive way and let him gain his own experience on his own feet in all of this.

For me its even more normal that you are nervous in such a situation like one of the first Korean progaming matches on stage than the other way around. Even people where you got the impression of high self-esteem get nervous in particular and rare situations like beeing in front of the camera or making a speech to a big audience. Because till this moment they had not much opportunities in their life to build up confidence for this, up to this point, more rare and decisive situations. When you got some advice and hints how someone can gain more confidence and avoid nervousness in his situation then rather talk about them instead of focussing on criticism about his possible current lack of it, which he, if its true, surely is already aware by himself.
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
March 31 2009 19:44 GMT
#86
I think his confidant will grow as he gets used to his situation and improves. Being confidant in such a situation is better, but IdrA doesn't seem to have any intrinsic issues in that regard.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
March 31 2009 21:01 GMT
#87
On April 01 2009 02:05 CaucasianAsian wrote:

We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?



really wrong idea behind this
its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same
its not always amount of time = results
you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
March 31 2009 21:08 GMT
#88
On April 01 2009 06:01 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2009 02:05 CaucasianAsian wrote:

We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?



really wrong idea behind this
its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same
its not always amount of time = results
you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft


Hard work > Talent.
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
hazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom570 Posts
March 31 2009 21:19 GMT
#89
On April 01 2009 06:08 Spyfire242 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2009 06:01 food wrote:
On April 01 2009 02:05 CaucasianAsian wrote:

We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?



really wrong idea behind this
its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same
its not always amount of time = results
you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft


Hard work > Talent.

true however I think a talentless person can only go so far no matter how much work they put in
The.Crow
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
619 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-31 21:30:54
March 31 2009 21:30 GMT
#90
Thanks for the vids, it is great to get that look behind everything.
But someone should sit down with Idra and give him some media training and show him how to act in front of a camera and on a stage.

And yeah, please scforall some cash that they are able to get a better camera, a wireless mic and a better video player
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
March 31 2009 23:40 GMT
#91
On April 01 2009 06:19 haz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2009 06:08 Spyfire242 wrote:
On April 01 2009 06:01 food wrote:
On April 01 2009 02:05 CaucasianAsian wrote:

We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?



really wrong idea behind this
its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same
its not always amount of time = results
you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft


Hard work > Talent.

true however I think a talentless person can only go so far no matter how much work they put in


I definitely think IdrA has allot of talent, and works very hard.
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
April 01 2009 00:44 GMT
#92
can anyone tell me which part of the video shows tossgirl tossing a sign or whatever someone said?
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
April 01 2009 02:41 GMT
#93
woa is artosis balding?

also, i never realized how small the gom studio is. Do they film in a different location when they have bigger matches?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-01 03:16:35
April 01 2009 03:16 GMT
#94
Wow, Idra is actually sort of endearing in the first video. I mean I always root for him, but I think I sort of like him now. :O
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 01 2009 03:35 GMT
#95
On March 31 2009 21:39 groro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2009 15:38 CaucasianAsian wrote:
IdrA you need to stop slouching, and show some go damn confidence! You are living the god damn dream of many of us foreigners. You listen to artosis and smile
And I think people should stop to tell him what he should do and what not. He is not responsible to live a dream for other people who like to see a charasmatic brad pitt who plays in the name of all of them. To this confidence thing: Sure people need to have confidence. But confidence is not about all time mentioning, having smart thoughts or playing the big boss in front of the camera. Either you got it in you to a certain extent or not. You get it by the routine and positive recognition. Not by the fact that people always try to mother you around or you need always to take a role to satisfy others.

So IMO the first step is that people should accept the fact that he is in first place more a shy person irl. Especially friends and those who are around him. Applied to that video I think its positive when people are around you and distract you a bit with fun talk like the DT stuff when you are nervous about a big upcoming event. But to often all this eye of the tiger and questioning my confidence stuff would annoy me when I would be in his place.

I think this is it. People need to stop piling on unneeded/undesired advice. It's annoying as hell to be in that position, and most people here aren't close enough to him to say anything useful.

He's not the starcraft savior of all white people like half the people here think, and he's not the biggest jerk in the world like the other half thinks. Idra is Idra, let him be.


I hope you keep on with what you're doing.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7577 Posts
April 01 2009 03:39 GMT
#96
All I have to say is that two of the best non-korean players I know rate dimaga as a top non-korean zerg and idra just dismantled him with straight up good play. He played an amazing game against strelok that only gets talked about because of his lame remarks, but infact it was an AMAZING game by both. He goes 1/2 against a protoss and could have won.

Aside from anything personally about idra I think , I would say that the last 2 weeks have shown me very very strong play from him. I am getting the feeling that we will be seeing it more and more.

This video was awesome.

Thx dan/greg
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
April 01 2009 03:42 GMT
#97
On April 01 2009 09:44 gg_hertzz wrote:
can anyone tell me which part of the video shows tossgirl tossing a sign or whatever someone said?


It was just tasteless speaking out of his ass. Supposedly it was someone else. Tasteless just wanted to say her name for the dialogue.
ya had ya shot kid!
smipth
Profile Joined January 2009
United States28 Posts
April 01 2009 04:09 GMT
#98
IdrA reminds me of a young Luke Skywalker. I believe.
Favorite Players: Forgg, Savior, Stork, Bisu
EternaLEnVy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada513 Posts
April 01 2009 04:12 GMT
#99
On April 01 2009 06:08 Spyfire242 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2009 06:01 food wrote:
On April 01 2009 02:05 CaucasianAsian wrote:

We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?



really wrong idea behind this
its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same
its not always amount of time = results
you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft


Hard work > Talent.


not when u want to be one of the best in the world.

No matter how much effort u put into studying, a 7 year old kid will be able to speak more languages than u, be better than u at all sciences plus math, and do surgery. Also he can lead a team of engineers on a NASA project. (Not kidding)
Hell in my head
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
April 01 2009 04:19 GMT
#100
On April 01 2009 13:12 EternaLEnVy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2009 06:08 Spyfire242 wrote:
On April 01 2009 06:01 food wrote:
On April 01 2009 02:05 CaucasianAsian wrote:

We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?



really wrong idea behind this
its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same
its not always amount of time = results
you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft


Hard work > Talent.


not when u want to be one of the best in the world.

No matter how much effort u put into studying, a 7 year old kid will be able to speak more languages than u, be better than u at all sciences plus math, and do surgery. Also he can lead a team of engineers on a NASA project. (Not kidding)


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