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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 05:41:24
March 29 2009 05:40 GMT
#1
http://www.gomtv.net/classics3/premiumzone/ticket.php

Classic Season 3
[image loading]

2009 03/29 ~ 2009 08/31


Premium Service has the features of High-definition that provides it’s viewers with more lively and vivid coverage, it’s members can also enjoy the unique feature of the separate private ‘discussion space’ through out the season.

This is the ticket that will allow you to experience Classic Season 3 in High-Definition Live and have access to downloading every VOD of the season.
Price : $49.99 USD

Don't have Premium and want to just test it out? Now you can! For just $1.99 USD you can download and watch your favorite match up(ex. A vs B) in Premium Quality.

* Each ticket is only usable in the channel it was intended for
* Ticket can’t be used after the date expires.

< GOMTV.NET VOD DRM guide >

You can view the downloaded VOD file(.gom) after you purchase the ticket.

Official buyer’s certified email mark will show on the screen as it plays.

* This can only be viewed on the GOM Player.

Download and install the most recent version of GOM Player [GOM Player download]

* Your purchase of the Premium ticket is nonrefundable after you view at least 1 live premium service, or if you download at least one.

----------------------

It seems that GOMTV is offering it's HD service as a subscription. People will be able to watch live in HD and download Video files with DRM in HD. I would love to be able to watch starcraft in HD, but $50 dollars a season seems to be too expensive for me. Especially since their league doesn't even have MBC, OGN, or SKT1 players. It might be more palatable if they included HD OGN and MBCGame channels.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
March 29 2009 05:44 GMT
#2
$50 is really expensive for HD...
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 05:47:10
March 29 2009 05:45 GMT
#3
DRM? Egads...

I think this is a pretty good way to monetize foreign SC fandom, though. If it wasn't for this GOM season's lack of T1 and the DRM, I would definitely fork over $50 for this. It'd have to be super reliable, though.

@ previous poster and OP: come on guys, $50 isn't that bad for an entire GOM season of HQ video, especially if the regular stream is going to lag like it did last season. If you are truly an avid GOM fan and watch all of the matches, then you'd be paying a fraction of a dollar for each game in HQ. I think that's pretty reasonable.
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merach
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States182 Posts
March 29 2009 05:50 GMT
#4
what does this mean for people that donated last season?
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
March 29 2009 05:52 GMT
#5
Does this also mean subscribers will have a private server and since it'll effectively be a very low-traffic stream, it WONT LAG? If so, I'm getting this ASAP.

Is this any different from that HD option they offered towards the end of the season last time? IIRC the quality still wasn't THAT great. They should have like a free sample imo.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
March 29 2009 05:54 GMT
#6
On March 29 2009 14:45 JWD wrote:
DRM? Egads...

I think this is a pretty good way to monetize foreign SC fandom, though. If it wasn't for this GOM season's lack of T1 and the DRM, I would definitely fork over $50 for this. It'd have to be super reliable, though.

@ previous poster and OP: come on guys, $50 isn't that bad for an entire GOM season of HQ video, especially if the regular stream is going to lag like it did last season. If you are truly an avid GOM fan and watch all of the matches, then you'd be paying a fraction of a dollar for each game in HQ. I think that's pretty reasonable.

I don't think it lags that much in the normal stream. Plus, they are pretty good at uploading the VODs, and regular quality is fine. It just seems that $50 is a bit expensive.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
March 29 2009 05:55 GMT
#7
I hope their definition of HD is at least 720p.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
March 29 2009 05:59 GMT
#8
Lol 50 dollars. Kidding me?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51517 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 06:02:17
March 29 2009 06:01 GMT
#9
what a jip, you can get the same quality on korean GOM for nothing.
so it's basically english commentary for 50 dollars per season. not worth it.
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zincsterio
Profile Joined March 2008
119 Posts
March 29 2009 06:03 GMT
#10
Wow, this is so ridiculous. The quality of games weren't even that high last season, and now SKT is not even participating. Why would anyone purchase this?
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 06:09:29
March 29 2009 06:06 GMT
#11
On March 29 2009 14:55 T.O.P. wrote:
I hope their definition of HD is at least 720p.


I seriously doubt it...actually, confusion of HD terminology is a big problem on the internet: for streaming/flash video, "HD" seems to mean any quality which is not the absolute bottom of the barrel.

I wonder what's going to happen when everyone has connections fast enough to watch real (i.e. 1080p) HD video. Will 1080p video that's streamed be called "Super HD"?
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StrikeFLOW
Profile Joined July 2008
United States369 Posts
March 29 2009 06:36 GMT
#12
On March 29 2009 14:40 T.O.P. wrote:
Especially since their league doesn't even have MBC, OGN, or SKT1 players.


Wait.

SKT1 isn't included anymore?!?!!?!?!?!?!
ESTRO is in this season!?!??!!?!?

Or was that a typo?

Bisu won it last season, I don't see why they would choose not to include SKT1.
"Life is a dream from which we all must wake before we can dream again"
StrikeFLOW
Profile Joined July 2008
United States369 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 06:43:29
March 29 2009 06:43 GMT
#13
sorry, double post
"Life is a dream from which we all must wake before we can dream again"
pandabearguy
Profile Joined June 2008
United States252 Posts
March 29 2009 06:44 GMT
#14
sktt1 and estro are both not playing iirc

if the HD is anything like last season's "HD", $50 is wayyyyyyyyy too much
aka [ucr]pandabearg. much <3
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
March 29 2009 06:48 GMT
#15
Why are some teams not participating?
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 29 2009 06:56 GMT
#16
i might shell out 2$ to see a couple notable games... o_o
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 29 2009 07:49 GMT
#17
That's a bit expensive

Although, I'm sure we're not the target audience of the paid stream. Its probably targeted towards outside casual viewers who are deluded into thinking they're getting a great deal.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
March 29 2009 08:12 GMT
#18
this is madness
:/
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6994 Posts
March 29 2009 08:17 GMT
#19
If the "hd" is the same as what they did for those who donated last season then this is just a huge joke, the quality was about the same as liveongame.gscdn/L1 stream and far away from anything that can be considered hd.

$50 is a huge amount even if its better than that though, no chance in hell I'm paying that.
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
March 29 2009 08:19 GMT
#20
They are fuckin crazy.. LOL
w/e
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7230 Posts
March 29 2009 08:28 GMT
#21
No way a single tournament is worth $50
日本語が分かりますか
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 29 2009 08:32 GMT
#22
At least they're not calling it a "donation" this time.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
March 29 2009 08:40 GMT
#23
LMAO
you can get few months of TV cable for this much
come on, not even a deal for "new customers"? They must be insane LOL
does that mean tasteless gets laid off when no one pays for HD?
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
March 29 2009 08:43 GMT
#24
On March 29 2009 17:40 food wrote:
LMAO
you can get few months of TV cable for this much
come on, not even a deal for "new customers"? They must be insane LOL
does that mean tasteless gets laid off when no one pays for HD?

Tasteless casting ProLeague, OSL, MSL and GOM TV would be worth 50
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
March 29 2009 08:43 GMT
#25
Crazy DRM - you get to view stream with your subscriber info on screen all the time, and after league ends GOM can disable you even watching VOD. What a rip off!
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food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
March 29 2009 08:45 GMT
#26
On March 29 2009 17:43 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2009 17:40 food wrote:
LMAO
you can get few months of TV cable for this much
come on, not even a deal for "new customers"? They must be insane LOL
does that mean tasteless gets laid off when no one pays for HD?

Tasteless casting ProLeague, OSL, MSL and GOM TV would be worth 50


i would pay 50$ for this ONLY if there was artosis everywhere( at least co-caster)
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
March 29 2009 08:47 GMT
#27
On March 29 2009 17:45 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2009 17:43 johanes wrote:
On March 29 2009 17:40 food wrote:
LMAO
you can get few months of TV cable for this much
come on, not even a deal for "new customers"? They must be insane LOL
does that mean tasteless gets laid off when no one pays for HD?

Tasteless casting ProLeague, OSL, MSL and GOM TV would be worth 50


i would pay 50$ for this ONLY if there was artosis everywhere( at least co-caster)

yup, artosis, superdaniel and tasteless would be optimal trio imo
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 08:52:47
March 29 2009 08:52 GMT
#28
On March 29 2009 17:47 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2009 17:45 food wrote:
On March 29 2009 17:43 johanes wrote:
On March 29 2009 17:40 food wrote:
LMAO
you can get few months of TV cable for this much
come on, not even a deal for "new customers"? They must be insane LOL
does that mean tasteless gets laid off when no one pays for HD?

Tasteless casting ProLeague, OSL, MSL and GOM TV would be worth 50


i would pay 50$ for this ONLY if there was artosis everywhere( at least co-caster)

yup, artosis, superdaniel and tasteless would be optimal trio imo


Then they'd have to add the CPOV like on MBC.
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 08:56:47
March 29 2009 08:55 GMT
#29
Ok I bought one, The Stream Quality is the same as the Donation High Def stream from last season.

ALTHOUGH it is COMPLETELY lag free I was streaming even before i pressed enter this is probably because i'm the only one atm tho with maybe 10 others Facepalm.

Meh Wasn't really worth it but ohwell <3 Tasteless. I just gotta destroy one less mouse this half year.
Starcraft 2 - Beta
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 09:03:41
March 29 2009 08:59 GMT
#30
If they made it $9.99 I am pretty sure about 100x more people would subscribe. I would.

I really appreciate GOMs english commentary, but 50$ is ridiculous.
#1 Kwanro Fan
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
March 29 2009 09:03 GMT
#31
On March 29 2009 17:55 Ziph wrote:
Ok I bought one, The Stream Quality is the same as the Donation High Def stream from last season.

ALTHOUGH it is COMPLETELY lag free I was streaming even before i pressed enter this is probably because i'm the only one atm tho with maybe 10 others Facepalm.

Meh Wasn't really worth it but ohwell <3 Tasteless. I just gotta destroy one less mouse this half year.

congratz!...
at least you warned other people here, I dont think many will bother with it if quality is the same as the previous' season so called "HD"
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 29 2009 09:13 GMT
#32
On March 29 2009 17:59 Bosu wrote:
If they made it $9.99 I am pretty sure about 100x more people would subscribe. I would.

I really appreciate GOMs english commentary, but 50$ is ridiculous.


$10 is a bit cheap honestly.

I would pay up to $25 for a season of gom in HQ (since calling it HD is a bit of a misnomer)
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
March 29 2009 09:16 GMT
#33
LOL 50$?!?!?!
You can't fight the feeling.
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
March 29 2009 09:46 GMT
#34
On March 29 2009 18:13 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2009 17:59 Bosu wrote:
If they made it $9.99 I am pretty sure about 100x more people would subscribe. I would.

I really appreciate GOMs english commentary, but 50$ is ridiculous.


$10 is a bit cheap honestly.

I would pay up to $25 for a season of gom in HQ (since calling it HD is a bit of a misnomer)



I would pay the $10, but this is mostly to support the e-sport english broadcasting more so, than to watch it in the so-called "HD".

$50 is indeed wacked, what were they smoking.
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 09:55:21
March 29 2009 09:54 GMT
#35
low quality stream is the same fun if you ask me

not worth it!
Studying Chinese~
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 09:55:36
March 29 2009 09:55 GMT
#36
i don't think i can stream a high quality stream but i dunno. I would def pay for a stream that I can always use and that always works/streams ogn/mbc/gom though so someone make that happen.
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
Shieru
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile53 Posts
March 29 2009 10:21 GMT
#37
someone can just watch the korean HD, turn off the sound, put the english stream in WMP and listen from there... if the both streams are in the same time of course
If every day is a challenge, I may well start living in night
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
March 29 2009 11:54 GMT
#38
On March 29 2009 14:55 T.O.P. wrote:
I hope their definition of HD is at least 720p.

At least?
You know that SC runs in 480p, right? 720p just for seeing 2 people talk in between games would be pretty pointless and also be wasted bandwidth for the games themselves. Let alone more than 720p...

On March 29 2009 17:43 R1CH wrote:
Crazy DRM - you get to view stream with your subscriber info on screen all the time, and after league ends GOM can disable you even watching VOD. What a rip off!

This.
The whole offer is a fucking joke. I'm sorry, but that's the only way to call it.
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tutan-kamon
Profile Joined March 2009
9 Posts
March 29 2009 12:01 GMT
#39
Well HD is not 640x480 resolution with more frames.
HD is at least 1080, so yeah. You can't call it HD, because its not. You can call it high quality or super high quality or whatever but you can't call it HD.

Anyways $50 is expensive, especially considering that not all teams participate and that the "HD" is not really HD.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
March 29 2009 12:04 GMT
#40
On March 29 2009 21:01 tutan-kamon wrote:
Well HD is not 640x480 resolution with more frames.
HD is at least 1080, so yeah. You can't call it HD, because its not. You can call it high quality or super high quality or whatever but you can't call it HD.

Anyways $50 is expensive, especially considering that not all teams participate and that the "HD" is not really HD.
HD starts with 720p...
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51517 Posts
March 29 2009 12:31 GMT
#41
the twenty minutes of ads justifies why you should not get this package
Commentator
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
March 29 2009 12:36 GMT
#42
indeed, these adds are making me rage.

Excuse me while i FFFFUUUUUUUUUU-
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itzme_petey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1400 Posts
March 29 2009 12:41 GMT
#43
epic fail on market research from GomTV. Either their cost structure requires a set amount of users to buy at $50 (to stay alive) or they are just really bad at pricing their shit. DRM is fucken retarted, all they are doing is hurting their case for subscription. Artosis should be brought on board to talk about more technical and strategical points of the games.

Resolution does not matter, the resolution of the free viewing is fine. I recomend that GOM produce a DVD at the end of the season that can be downloaded and burned out with high resolution. The $50 (I recomend $19.99) subscription allows users to download that DVD. That is when resolution matters. DVD can be controlled to show brackets and different matches through the DVD menu. Include special sections in the DVD that are not acessible to regular subscribers/free accounts.

If they are bold, they can completely stop their free streaming with commentary from Tasteless. Force users a minimum $9.99-14.99 subscription that does not include DVD at the end of the season, rather just a high resolution account option. However, I hope they remember that Korean SC in the foreign community is built on the foundation of free vods and copyright infrignment (TL vod server).

GOMtv, you guys need to get an analyst to put all the info onto paper before you throw out a price point or start to monetize an operation. Now, if you did hire an analyst, he/she wrote a report, and recomended this plan. Fire that fuck.
"Last night, I played a game.. as I recall it was a strategy game.. Peeked around and what did I see, a girl playing starcraft better than me.. and I jizzed in my pants.."
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
March 29 2009 14:51 GMT
#44
On March 29 2009 17:43 R1CH wrote:
Crazy DRM - you get to view stream with your subscriber info on screen all the time, and after league ends GOM can disable you even watching VOD. What a rip off!


Oh man...when R1CH posts, you know it's bad.
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epicdoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States489 Posts
March 29 2009 15:41 GMT
#45
not worth it at all imo, lota people on gom forums who got premium ended up watching regular stream anyways
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 29 2009 15:51 GMT
#46
Dont think this is the best idea they could have come up with :\ .
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 16:13:54
March 29 2009 16:11 GMT
#47
More than anything else, they've now fucked up by not making the videos from this morning available yet. The main reason I was willing to shell out for this--besides the fact that I had the $50 to spare--is that I can never, ever watch the games live (so my donation for HQ was wasted last season). Now they can't even get the videos up in a reasonable timeframe? I'm fairly sure it's a one-time mistake, but I'm not happy about it.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
March 29 2009 16:13 GMT
#48
this is a black store.....
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
March 29 2009 16:41 GMT
#49
On March 29 2009 14:55 T.O.P. wrote:
I hope their definition of HD is at least 720p.


You realize they will still be casting Starcraft right?

Unless you really really REALLY have to see those pros in 720p glory.... this is stupid as hell. Remember how shitty ALL vods used to be back in the day? I'm amazed at the night and day difference of youtube quality vods from 09 to 07.

Terrible price for the services offered imo.
Nak Allstar.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
March 29 2009 16:57 GMT
#50
This is really, really expensive. I'd rather buy a satellite receiver for that price.
Neo7
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States922 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 17:07:24
March 29 2009 17:05 GMT
#51
50$ an hour also includes HD downloads of VODs. That's...kind of on the high side there...but downloads are nice.
It takes an idiot to do cool things.
Scooge
Profile Joined December 2008
Iceland144 Posts
March 29 2009 17:47 GMT
#52
50 USD and the only added value is higher quality VODs? It's the exact production that the free stream gets, but in HIGHER QUALITY. Pay up. 50 USD please. Even more funny, in a country that pirates everything multimedia they're pushing for DMR. Give me a break.
zoy
Profile Joined April 2008
17 Posts
March 29 2009 17:50 GMT
#53
Are today's VODS available for premium members?
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
March 29 2009 18:04 GMT
#54
wow that's crazy. Last season the price was 1$, and now they're raising the cost to $50??? Are they gonna charge $2500 next season?
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 18:25:37
March 29 2009 18:08 GMT
#55
On March 29 2009 21:41 itzme_petey wrote:
epic fail on market research from GomTV. Either their cost structure requires a set amount of users to buy at $50 (to stay alive) or they are just really bad at pricing their shit. DRM is fucken retarted, all they are doing is hurting their case for subscription. Artosis should be brought on board to talk about more technical and strategical points of the games.

Resolution does not matter, the resolution of the free viewing is fine. I recomend that GOM produce a DVD at the end of the season that can be downloaded and burned out with high resolution. The $50 (I recomend $19.99) subscription allows users to download that DVD. That is when resolution matters. DVD can be controlled to show brackets and different matches through the DVD menu. Include special sections in the DVD that are not acessible to regular subscribers/free accounts.

If they are bold, they can completely stop their free streaming with commentary from Tasteless. Force users a minimum $9.99-14.99 subscription that does not include DVD at the end of the season, rather just a high resolution account option. However, I hope they remember that Korean SC in the foreign community is built on the foundation of free vods and copyright infrignment (TL vod server).

GOMtv, you guys need to get an analyst to put all the info onto paper before you throw out a price point or start to monetize an operation. Now, if you did hire an analyst, he/she wrote a report, and recomended this plan. Fire that fuck.

Sometimes i read a post and agree with it entirely - rather than repeat what he said, i will just nod in agreement. I can't understand under what kind of business model 50$ is acceptable for market penetration when your target audience is 17-25 poor college students. Theres other ways to monitize this than flat out charging for "high res" (a 640x480 screen and colour palatte from 1998? lol).

Oh god i just realized you can't watch the VOD's after a certain date....lol come on ~_~.
Scooge
Profile Joined December 2008
Iceland144 Posts
March 29 2009 18:09 GMT
#56
Cheap ways to add value to the 50 USD package to make it more attractive:

Premium members get to ask Tasteless questions that will be answered on air. He picks 5-10 and answers them elaborately during dead time or before another match begins.

An example would be WHY DID FLASH FD ON MAP Y INSTEAD OF SIEGE EXPAND and Tasteless would break it down in a 3 minute max bit with graphs and data. He could even ask Flash himself and include the answer in his explanation. This is pretty easy to do and adds quality content to the broadcast while giving premium members a perk.

Premium members get games that weren't broadcast during the early stages of the tournament. Record these games (with no added production or commentary to keep costs low. It could even be a replay) and make the VODs available only to premium members. Contact community commentators like Moletrap, Klazart, etc. and let them commentate on them. Cheap way to involve the community, add a ton of value and make it unique from standard users.

I'm sure there are much better ideas. Gretech didn't think this through. There's not enough value for something priced so high.
irishash
Profile Joined November 2008
United States285 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 18:16:24
March 29 2009 18:12 GMT
#57
On March 30 2009 01:41 MiniRoman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2009 14:55 T.O.P. wrote:
I hope their definition of HD is at least 720p.


You realize they will still be casting Starcraft right?

Unless you really really REALLY have to see those pros in 720p glory.... this is stupid as hell. Remember how shitty ALL vods used to be back in the day? I'm amazed at the night and day difference of youtube quality vods from 09 to 07.

Terrible price for the services offered imo.


should watch a few VODs from 2001 and compare the quality lol

i'd probably pay a one time $50 fee for this as is, otherwise they'd have to add a bunch of stuff for me to even THINK about $50 a season, especially if i can't watch the VODs whenever i want. is this only for non-koreans?
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
March 29 2009 18:13 GMT
#58
Too expensive. Ill pay 50 for GOM+OSL+MSL. Only for Gom ill prolly pay something like 15+/-
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zincsterio
Profile Joined March 2008
119 Posts
March 29 2009 18:22 GMT
#59
Actually I hardly watch the English commentary at all on GOM, I'd rather watch the Korean version even if I don't understand it. Tasteless' commentary has gotten old pretty fast. He always makes the joke about the "panda bear guy", I mean it's funny the first 5 times, but then it gets annoying pretty quickly. Then, he always makes jokes about "nerds", like "nerd fight" or something like that. That gets pretty annoying as well. Not to rip on him, but this level of commentary is worth hardly $5 let alone $50.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 18:34:08
March 29 2009 18:28 GMT
#60
Absurdly expensive, especially considering their costs per user of this service are negligible in compasison. $10 - $20 would be reasonable.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
March 29 2009 18:36 GMT
#61
Damn...
I'll do just fine with low quality... Give me a 5 pixel stream, when all you can see is a white dot for CC, red dot for hydra, blue dot for mineral patch, and I'll be happy as long as there's audio :-)
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iccup.BeasTy
Profile Joined March 2009
United States39 Posts
March 29 2009 18:50 GMT
#62
omg its violetak ya 50 is to much i agree
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theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
March 29 2009 19:12 GMT
#63
On March 30 2009 02:50 zoy wrote:
Are today's VODS available for premium members?


No
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1014 Posts
March 29 2009 19:28 GMT
#64
With the dollar being as high as it is I wouldn't pay 50 for it, but would be happy to pay 20-30.
ibutoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Australia341 Posts
March 30 2009 01:57 GMT
#65
Are they not posting the english vod's for free anymore? seems unusual they aren't up and it's been a day already? they used to be up the same night
Nada got Yooned
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
March 30 2009 01:59 GMT
#66
Two posts up, man. Read the thread come on.
Jaedong
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
March 30 2009 02:03 GMT
#67
this reminds me of the last time they asked for donations and all the theories stating that GOM is actually going broke. do they need moneys that much?
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
March 30 2009 03:41 GMT
#68
On March 30 2009 11:03 redtooth wrote:
this reminds me of the last time they asked for donations and all the theories stating that GOM is actually going broke. do they need moneys that much?

Doubt it, GOM is the most popular media player in Korea and they sell PPV porn and movies.
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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
March 30 2009 07:27 GMT
#69
They are putting up VODs for premium and non-premium users as always. However, there is a 3 day hold-back for the non-ticket buyers on playing the VODs. This is kind of lame seeing as how they VODs were put up late to begin with. After one day, only the Tossgirl games are up. That means there will be a total of 5+ days to see the Idra or Cloud games since the initial broadcast. This $50 ticket thing is lame.
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RobRoy2501
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States177 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-30 08:00:03
March 30 2009 07:59 GMT
#70
While its most likely naive to think that SKT and the other teams care about the fans so much, I can't help but think about the possibility that they heard about this new business model and decided to stay out.

Whether thats the case or not(almost certainly not), I simply don't have the money for this, so GOM, which was my favorite over MBC and OGN, is now last as I am probably gonna watch it in Korean on youtube(which will remove its greatest feature - the commentary by super daniel man and tasteless) and it doesn't have some of the best players.

I feel sad, because these look like the first steps down a path that leads to no english cast Starcraft games
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
March 30 2009 08:05 GMT
#71
Seriously,this is a load of BS.

The so called HQ stream is anything but HQ, I'm watching on a 32 Tv screen and I see NO difference whatsoever between the premium and the free stream. The premium strem wasn't stable for me, and no it's not lag due to bad connection or whatever it just randomly froze and I had to reconnnect again.
It's funny how they locked the VODS for none premium users, why the hell would you want to download the VOD anyway?

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RobRoy2501
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States177 Posts
March 30 2009 08:20 GMT
#72
Actually, realistically thinking about it I'll just watch the vods later. Thanks for being a pain in the ass GOM. :D
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15359 Posts
March 30 2009 08:31 GMT
#73
Well $50 for one season seems reasonable to me, I'd pay that.

That said everything else is just plain stupid. DRM? What? This is 2009, you just don't do that anymore. I'd be happy to pay for usable content, but DRM just kills it completely. Use open formats and a convenient distribution method and I'll pay.

What's really sad about this whole thing is that GOM started so promisingly for foreign fans. If done right this could have been a huge success (financially too) but I predict total failure for this service now.

Also, funny to see that they are still asking for donations.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 30 2009 13:44 GMT
#74
preeeeeeetty bad PR from gom on this one

alarming how fast theyve managed to alienate so many people through principle alone
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
March 30 2009 13:51 GMT
#75
whats drm?
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Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
March 30 2009 14:11 GMT
#76
On March 30 2009 22:51 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
whats drm?


Through Google I found 'Digital Rights Management'. So it's the whole deal with getting people to pay for their content..

As a fun fact, I googled 'DMR' first (misspelled from DRM) and I got 'Department of Mental Retardation' as a hit.. How fitting.


Anyway, I was looking forward alot to the GomTV Season 3 tournament, with it's main perk being the English commentary by Tasteless and Superdanielman. Well, as turns out, it will cost 50 USD to get the English commentary in HQ, and the normal VODs are delayed 3 days.. Way to kill the anticipation.

I wouldn't mind watching normal VODs instead of HQ ones, but waiting 3 days is not an option, since there's spoilers everywhere ofcourse.. Bah!
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
March 30 2009 14:20 GMT
#77
On March 30 2009 23:11 Khenra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2009 22:51 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
whats drm?


Through Google I found 'Digital Rights Management'. So it's the whole deal with getting people to pay for their content..

As a fun fact, I googled 'DMR' first (misspelled from DRM) and I got 'Department of Mental Retardation' as a hit.. How fitting.


Anyway, I was looking forward alot to the GomTV Season 3 tournament, with it's main perk being the English commentary by Tasteless and Superdanielman. Well, as turns out, it will cost 50 USD to get the English commentary in HQ, and the normal VODs are delayed 3 days.. Way to kill the anticipation.

I wouldn't mind watching normal VODs instead of HQ ones, but waiting 3 days is not an option, since there's spoilers everywhere ofcourse.. Bah!

ty

I really should have googled it myself.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6183 Posts
March 30 2009 14:24 GMT
#78
not for me.. I will keep the normal quality + delay of 3 days.. anyway, I watch most of GOM game live since it's at like 6am on sunday
n_n
GarlicPepper
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States563 Posts
March 30 2009 14:24 GMT
#79
I'm able to watch the vods now and I haven't paid anything. It did ask for my email address before i could view. After I entered it I see two buttons under each vid "view" and "download"
Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
March 30 2009 14:37 GMT
#80
On March 30 2009 23:24 GarlicPepper wrote:
I'm able to watch the vods now and I haven't paid anything. It did ask for my email address before i could view. After I entered it I see two buttons under each vid "view" and "download"


Woot, you're right!!! Watching them right now :D:D

VODS NOW VIEWABLE WITHOUT ANY SORT OF PAYMENT!!
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neliel
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden63 Posts
March 30 2009 14:41 GMT
#81
http://www.gomtv.net/classics3/news/107

Also the vods streams for me now (no premium).
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-30 15:07:53
March 30 2009 14:46 GMT
#82
Never underestimate the power of angry nerds in large groups -
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
March 30 2009 14:52 GMT
#83
Confirmed that the vods are viewable now by everyone.

I guess they listened to the criticism. Kudos to GOM for that.
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
March 30 2009 15:11 GMT
#84
On March 30 2009 23:52 StarBrift wrote:
I guess they listened to the criticism. Kudos to GOM for that.


Good choice by them really to at least make changes, before too much damage was done. Now they only need to change the 'HD' subscription to $9,99 - $19,99 for a season and they'll be set.
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
March 30 2009 15:42 GMT
#85
Can't use their "HD" stream as my internet connection is too slow for HD.
I am dowloading the VoDs anyways as their VoD server is very slow.
The premium service seems to be not working as intended at the moment.

Wouldn't mind paying for it, but i see no benefits of doing it. A warm fuzzy feeling isn't worth 35 Euros.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6994 Posts
March 30 2009 15:57 GMT
#86
On March 30 2009 23:52 StarBrift wrote:
Confirmed that the vods are viewable now by everyone.

I guess they listened to the criticism. Kudos to GOM for that.

I think the only vods not available to non paying customers are the premium ones and I think the ones on the site right now are just "standard" quality.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
March 30 2009 16:43 GMT
#87
Now, if they could just get their shit together and let the people who DID pay actually save the VODs to disk like we're supposed to be able to . . .
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
March 30 2009 16:55 GMT
#88
On March 31 2009 00:57 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2009 23:52 StarBrift wrote:
Confirmed that the vods are viewable now by everyone.

I guess they listened to the criticism. Kudos to GOM for that.

I think the only vods not available to non paying customers are the premium ones and I think the ones on the site right now are just "standard" quality.


4 or so hours ago no one could watch the vods if they hadn't paid the premium price. The vods were up and running but only for premium users. The rest of us had to wait three days for them to become available. They changed that though so we can now watch the vods without paying.
rockman255
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada58 Posts
April 08 2009 22:35 GMT
#89
i paid the $50 and all i got is confirmation from paypal that i paid, nothing back from gom yet, cant find any support email address or any forum on gom site, been 24 hours now.
rocko from lp
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-09 01:56:16
April 09 2009 01:55 GMT
#90
I really don't understand what the hell gom is thinking with this one.

It's like some corporate guy thought "How much can we charge them so that there's absolutely no chance any of them will buy it..then we don't have to deal with this shit anymore....50 dollars a month should do it (evil laughter)".

50 dollars a month is literally twice the amount you're going to pay a month at the VERY BEST porn sites in the whole world. And sorry GOM, quasi HD english vods can't compete with primal urges Fire the guy who thought of this business model asap.

Edit- Looks like I'm too late lol..but still.
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rockman255
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada58 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-09 03:54:00
April 09 2009 03:47 GMT
#91
On April 09 2009 10:55 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
I really don't understand what the hell gom is thinking with this one.

It's like some corporate guy thought "How much can we charge them so that there's absolutely no chance any of them will buy it..then we don't have to deal with this shit anymore....50 dollars a month should do it (evil laughter)".

50 dollars a month is literally twice the amount you're going to pay a month at the VERY BEST porn sites in the whole world. And sorry GOM, quasi HD english vods can't compete with primal urges Fire the guy who thought of this business model asap.

Edit- Looks like I'm too late lol..but still.


thought it was $50 1 shot for entire season? which would be more like, $10/month?

i would think its nice to be able to support this sort of thing
rocko from lp
rockman255
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada58 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-09 04:01:15
April 09 2009 03:59 GMT
#92
i dont get you guys like, i guess relative to other internet services it is expensive? but $50? i've been in cab rides that cost that much. i am a broke college graduate, and i do recall spending double or triple that on nights at pubs.
rocko from lp
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
April 09 2009 04:02 GMT
#93
Seconded Kennigit on this one - it's behaviour like this (without warning or an attempt to get feedback to see if the target audience will recieve their new changes well.) that is pretty damaging for a company's reputation. Especially in a field like esports where there is only a limited amount of Korea-based leagues (and only one full time English commentated one.) so it's something of an attention grabber for the community. The issues might be fixed now/soon, but the very notion that GOM is trying to limit access for a price that is out of a lot of peoples' budgets/undesirable to certain consumers doesn't paint them in a good light right now.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
April 09 2009 04:03 GMT
#94
On March 30 2009 23:11 Khenra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2009 22:51 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
whats drm?


Through Google I found 'Digital Rights Management'. So it's the whole deal with getting people to pay for their content..

As a fun fact, I googled 'DMR' first (misspelled from DRM) and I got 'Department of Mental Retardation' as a hit.. How fitting.
DRM doesn't mean getting people to pay for content. It's a way of controlling (restricting) how files can be used (digital restrictions management would be a better term -.-). The publisher can for example define how many times a file may be played or copied. Or he can set an expiration date, etc....

I suggest reading the following paragraphs, gives you a good idea of why DRM is horrible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#Controversy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#Obsolescence


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rockman255
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada58 Posts
April 13 2009 02:39 GMT
#95
did anyone besides me actually buy a ticket? because it shows up on my credit card as

7 Apr 2009 PAYPAL *GRETECHCORP 4029357733 ON 63.38

but i never got an email back, tried emailing gomsupport@gmail.com and gomsupport@gomlab.com but neither any reply in days..

just curious if anyone else got it to work, because apparently you have to confirm your email address, but i've tried every damn link on the website and if i cant get them to email me something, i certainly can't confirm my email.
rocko from lp
Barracks_Obama
Profile Joined January 2009
United States9 Posts
April 15 2009 21:17 GMT
#96
i got a premium ticket, and i was able to download the VODs, which was pretty nice.

though that link got taken away, anyone know what happened?
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
April 15 2009 21:24 GMT
#97
greedy Koreans !
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