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SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
March 21 2009 23:23 GMT
#281
Chris Brown beats Rihanna <--- Exposed
Billy bob beats his wife with no teeth <----- no one cares

Idra flames Strelok <---- Exposed
newby8797 flames shuffler2826262 <--- no one cares

Move on people :\. happens all the time, idra isn't the only idiot that does shit like that.
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 00:02:34
March 21 2009 23:36 GMT
#282
On March 22 2009 08:23 SkepTicAL wrote:
Chris Brown beats Rihanna <--- Exposed
Billy bob beats his wife with no teeth <----- no one cares

Idra flames Strelok <---- Exposed
newby8797 flames shuffler2826262 <--- no one cares

Move on people :\. happens all the time, idra isn't the only idiot that does shit like that.

Yeah because it's totally the same thing when someone who is supposed to be a professional can't behave like one, as when a random 14 year old gets out of line in a bnet game?
On March 22 2009 07:34 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 06:19 FrozenArbiter wrote:

IdrA is 19 (20?) not 5 -_-


This is just my opinion, too lazy to find proofs for this.
age = physical maturity
age !=mental maturity

Ability to think critically and make logical decisions in all situations = mental maturity

But you don't need mental maturity in order to know that being manner when you lose = good.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 21 2009 23:40 GMT
#283
On March 22 2009 08:36 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 08:23 SkepTicAL wrote:
Chris Brown beats Rihanna <--- Exposed
Billy bob beats his wife with no teeth <----- no one cares

Idra flames Strelok <---- Exposed
newby8797 flames shuffler2826262 <--- no one cares

Move on people :\. happens all the time, idra isn't the only idiot that does shit like that.

Yeah because it's totally the same thing when someone who is supposed to be a professional can't behave like one, as when a random 14 year old gets out of line in a bnet game?

Can't you just close this thread?

Not like this thread is going anywhere positive. :/
Moderator。◕‿◕。
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
March 21 2009 23:55 GMT
#284
On March 22 2009 08:40 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 08:36 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On March 22 2009 08:23 SkepTicAL wrote:
Chris Brown beats Rihanna <--- Exposed
Billy bob beats his wife with no teeth <----- no one cares

Idra flames Strelok <---- Exposed
newby8797 flames shuffler2826262 <--- no one cares

Move on people :\. happens all the time, idra isn't the only idiot that does shit like that.

Yeah because it's totally the same thing when someone who is supposed to be a professional can't behave like one, as when a random 14 year old gets out of line in a bnet game?

Can't you just close this thread?

Not like this thread is going anywhere positive. :/

doesn't anyone want to talk about Strelok's sneaky dropships? or Idra's intuition to spot a proxy rax?

I especially liked how strelok set up his siege tanks behind Idra's natural and then blocked them in with the rax he floated over. i thought it was mui sexy. i don't remember the last time i've seen a game that lasted that long where one player wasn't able to move out to his expo.

GG
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
March 22 2009 00:01 GMT
#285
I really liked Idra's anti-wraith defense in that game.
日本語が分かりますか
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 00:55:18
March 22 2009 00:53 GMT
#286
On March 22 2009 08:36 FrozenArbiter wrote:

But you don't need mental maturity in order to know that being manner when you lose = good.


I think there is a different between knowing and was told what manner is.

When a person was told to be good manner by parents for example, they have to obey, they might never consider why being manner is important, unless the parents explain it. which means if no one is holding him accountable for his bad manner actions, he can choose to be bad mannered, and condescending. (CJ Coach is holding him accountable that's why he's good mannered in real life prehaps? i'm just makign wild guesses )

When a person understands the necessity, and the reason why they need to be good mannered toward another human being, they have thought about the consequences of all the bad mannered actions vs the good mannered actions. Which in terms demonstrates a certain levels of critical thinking ability.

GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
March 22 2009 01:17 GMT
#287
Idra can't be a winner with this shitty attitude.
Brood War loyalist
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
March 22 2009 01:19 GMT
#288
Idra pisses me off. Keep it up bud!
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
March 22 2009 01:27 GMT
#289
I have seen the game (i was lucky enough to downlaod it from gosu before it got pulled) and i will say i think its a really really really really great game.
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
March 22 2009 01:59 GMT
#290
Why are people so emo about him? It's not like he hurt anyone. His BM isn't even justified, that makes it even more ignorable. Chill the fock out people. Is it because he's practicing at CJ's and wearing the uniform? Is it because when people picture them selfs there playing as a pro they would act all humble and most honored by this status?

He's just on practice partner level. He's one-of-the-guys-you-wouldn't-even-know-if-he-wasn't-white. He's the player-in-the-"other"-part-of-the-team. Standing in the outer outer outer ring of the progaming universe. All this "one of the best foreigners" is totally irrelevant. Where he is now only one thing matters: Results. Stone cold fuck a fiver in a river results.

That's why he can bm all the fuck he wants. Start disc-leaving...hell i would if i was practicing my ass of and then loose to some guy who's not even remotely close to the progaming circle.

I'm sure he knows. Discussions around his person keep growing and growing on our side while he stays insignificant as a player on the korean side. That's the fate of the third tier players. Simply being there wont cut it. And that's why i think noone should be upset over such trivia, because it's just noise.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
March 22 2009 02:04 GMT
#291
Lmao in the new iccup replay database, this is one of the first to be uploaded.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3343 Posts
March 22 2009 02:41 GMT
#292
On March 22 2009 10:27 kefkalives wrote:
I have seen the game (i was lucky enough to downlaod it from gosu before it got pulled) and i will say i think its a really really really really great game.

Its still on gg.net
김택용 Fighting!
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
March 22 2009 02:57 GMT
#293
On March 22 2009 07:21 L wrote:
I don't see how anyone can defend this kid if they have an inkling of respect for E-sports in general.

He is the model of the 'kid who spent his life in a basement' image that people who play games have been trying to shrug off for 2 decades now. Pure gaming poison.
This.

There is a reason why you can't BM onstage in a professional korean match: The Sponsors. No company in their right mind would finance this sport after seeing an IdrA vs [insert opponent here] replay. With StarCraft II just around the corner, there will be a new environment for esports to thrive. No one is going to take the StarCraft community seriously if we are "okay" with this behavior. I think there should be some very basic ground rules set for these big foreigner matches.

Besides the fact that its sad, I don't think it should be tolerated by fans and especially not by the big name community sites such as Team Liquid.
MC Fighting!~
fast ball player
Profile Joined December 2008
206 Posts
March 22 2009 03:17 GMT
#294
I think Im the reason Idra quit zerg. This one game on R-Point I played him (my old nickname Corbalt) used ranged goons to my adv, he got SO MAD and next day played Terran. That guy is hilarious. Reminds me of good times back with other BM Newbs like NTT. People who berate you for defeating them. So funny when the angry guy loses.
But in all seriousness, Idra must be good to win 2 games off F91. Much respect to both players.
GJ great battle report.
Live free or die
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
March 22 2009 03:21 GMT
#295
On March 22 2009 11:57 Phoned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 07:21 L wrote:
I don't see how anyone can defend this kid if they have an inkling of respect for E-sports in general.

He is the model of the 'kid who spent his life in a basement' image that people who play games have been trying to shrug off for 2 decades now. Pure gaming poison.
This.

There is a reason why you can't BM onstage in a professional korean match: The Sponsors. No company in their right mind would finance this sport after seeing an IdrA vs [insert opponent here] replay. With StarCraft II just around the corner, there will be a new environment for esports to thrive. No one is going to take the StarCraft community seriously if we are "okay" with this behavior. I think there should be some very basic ground rules set for these big foreigner matches.

Besides the fact that its sad, I don't think it should be tolerated by fans and especially not by the big name community sites such as Team Liquid.


To be fair with the sports analogy, plays like Terrell Owens and other infamous trouble makers do exist, its part of the sport, not everyone is gonna be the well mannered Tim Duncan/David Robinson.

All in all Id say that outburst was pretty funny, Im sure strelok was probably laughing his ass off. Replay with text is too good.
cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
March 22 2009 03:27 GMT
#296
On March 22 2009 07:53 rei wrote:
who knows, maybe i'm wrong about all this, maybe Idra is mature, which require another hypothesis to explain his behavior.

1.Let's suppose Idra is able to think and make logical decisions.
2.then logically he has to recognize his own hot temper, and big mouth. (1)
3. if can recognize his weakness, logically he can avoid scenarios in which he exposes these weaknesses. (example: train himself to stop opening mouth when enraged)(both 1,2)
4. he does not attempt to hide his weaknesses(bad manner) (fact)
5. which means that he is intentionally Bad mannering everyone he plays, since he is logically making the decision to be BM.(3 and 4)
6 Which means Idra's true intension is to alienate the foreign community and everybody that is not within his CJ team, and he does not care about what the foreign community thinks. (5)

Is Idra immature or is he trying to alienate everybody? since he kept posting on teamliquid means he wants attention from teamliquid community, which also means he want acceptance from the foreigner community. Therefore in my opinion the theory of an immature idra is more logical than the theory of I don't give a shit about foreigner community


lol sup freud.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 22 2009 03:41 GMT
#297
To be fair with the sports analogy, plays like Terrell Owens and other infamous trouble makers do exist, its part of the sport, not everyone is gonna be the well mannered Tim Duncan/David Robinson.

All in all Id say that outburst was pretty funny, Im sure strelok was probably laughing his ass off. Replay with text is too good.

There's a difference between projecting an image in an established and thriving sport and trying to develop respect for one that is fledgling and lacks both sponsorship and branding.

And no, it wasn't a one time outburst, or some chance event. This is just the latest in a series of similar events.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
March 22 2009 04:02 GMT
#298
Honestly IdrA, just kill yourself.

Biggest dickhead in SC, going nowhere fast. Just look at the interview he did with Artosis when he moved from eSTRO to CJ and you can see he's just as, if not even more of a tool in person.
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
March 22 2009 04:05 GMT
#299
Just became a strelok fan and an idra hater
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
March 22 2009 04:06 GMT
#300
On March 22 2009 08:36 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 08:23 SkepTicAL wrote:
Chris Brown beats Rihanna <--- Exposed
Billy bob beats his wife with no teeth <----- no one cares

Idra flames Strelok <---- Exposed
newby8797 flames shuffler2826262 <--- no one cares

Move on people :\. happens all the time, idra isn't the only idiot that does shit like that.

Yeah because it's totally the same thing when someone who is supposed to be a professional can't behave like one, as when a random 14 year old gets out of line in a bnet game?
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 07:34 rei wrote:
On March 22 2009 06:19 FrozenArbiter wrote:

IdrA is 19 (20?) not 5 -_-


This is just my opinion, too lazy to find proofs for this.
age = physical maturity
age !=mental maturity

Ability to think critically and make logical decisions in all situations = mental maturity

But you don't need mental maturity in order to know that being manner when you lose = good.


wrong Age = social contruction
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
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