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[Translation] Flash Interview on Dailyesports.com - Page 2

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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
February 12 2009 06:43 GMT
#21
FlaSh is so good, yet so humble. Mad respect for the youngster.
Graphics
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 12 2009 06:46 GMT
#22
Oh wow Flash/Stork/Jaedong/Bisu is the 3rd generation? I thought they would be the 4th

I guess Savior destroyed the 2nd generation so he doesnt really count to be a 3rd generation >.>



And Flash is originally From Pantech.

Nada -> Flash. Nada, the original Child Labor terran, Original Child Prodigy, and Original Terran to understand TvP well. It works really well
dats racist
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
February 12 2009 06:47 GMT
#23
On February 12 2009 15:21 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
Flash: "I think Stork is amazing. That's why I choose Bisu as my rival. My idea of a rivalry is when fans get really excited about a match between two players. It's fun to have both sides attacking each other non-stop. That's why I think Bisu is my rival."

??? Stork is amazing, so therefore Bisu is his rival? Or was that a typo?


I didn't know what the hell Flash is implying here either. But here's my take on things.

Flash is saying that while Stork may be the tougher opponent of the two, Bisu will be his rival, because playing Bisu gives him more attention, and Bisu's playing style leads to interesting games between the two.

It's kind of interesting how the very best players in the world have very different attitudes.

Stork, despite all his success, complains all the time how weak protoss is, how he loses all the time during practice, how he foresaw the recent zerg comeback against protoss, how he has no creativity and how he only started progaming because he sucked at school. He always puts himself down despite the fact that he is one of the most accomplished gamer to have played the game.

Bisu has an ego. With his good looks, flashy playing style, multitude of trophies and his legions of fans, who can blame him? Regardless of the results, we can always see how Bisu regards himself as the best in the scene.

His ego does show a lot on his interviews, such as this comment after his defeat against Jangbi in the proleague:

"Jangbi did show good skill, but that was on the small stage, and I am a far more accomplished player on the big stage."

Or the infamous "I felt good about facing Effort because I have never lost to zergs on Medusa", then after crashing out to By.Hero:

"I only lost the second game because of the shock. To be honest, I lost because of the maps, it's impossible to win with one gate play on Tears of the Moon."

And of course in this interview, he shows minimal interest in Flash and only asks him about his personal life. I've got a similiar feeling when Bisu only felt envious of Stork because he had a girlfriend.

Flash probably respects Bisu as a player, but probably didn't want to place him above Stork who he is closer with. He may have been a touch pissed off, because Bisu asked him about his girlfriend, when it was difficult not to know already as a progamer, especially considering all the rumors of Flash and his girlfriend troubles that were going on.
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MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
February 12 2009 06:52 GMT
#24
(Z)sAviOr as the King was the best era
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
February 12 2009 06:53 GMT
#25
On February 12 2009 15:43 Last Romantic wrote:
What's the second generation of the four kings?


1st generation: Boxer, Nada, Reach, Yellow

2nd generation: Oov, Nal Ra, Go Rush, July

3rd generation would have been Savior, Midas, Chojja and Nada (not sure if I got the list correct), but the difference between Savior and the rest was so huge that it never caught on.

So we have our 3rd generation of the "Four Kings" with the current quartet of Bisu, Stork, Flash and Jaedong.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 12 2009 06:53 GMT
#26
On February 12 2009 15:43 Last Romantic wrote:
What's the second generation of the four kings?


[image loading]
dats racist
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
February 12 2009 06:56 GMT
#27
Has there ever been an off-exhibition besides Battlenet attack... I want to see Flash's Zerg
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 12 2009 06:59 GMT
#28
On February 12 2009 15:56 Kunty wrote:
Has there ever been an off-exhibition besides Battlenet attack... I want to see Flash's Zerg

Flash played Protoss while BeSt played Terran in a KTF/SKT event match


Goddamn both their micro and macro was so bad, it was a total bore.
dats racist
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-12 07:06:24
February 12 2009 07:00 GMT
#29
Edit: ^ I didn't really get that impression. Maybe I didn't think they were on top of their game, but I thought it was still well-played.

On February 12 2009 15:56 Kunty wrote:
Has there ever been an off-exhibition besides Battlenet attack... I want to see Flash's Zerg

His protoss is certainly dynamite. I remember watching an exhibition with him against Best, not realizing both were off-race. I was a bit disappointed at first, because it looked like Best was the "macro king" after all because the Protoss was just overwhelming the Terran with units. Little did I know

Here is that game by the way:
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 12 2009 07:03 GMT
#30
Bisu: "Do you have a girlfriend?"

No doubt Bisu is thinking "Do you have a girlfriend? Because I have 50."
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
February 12 2009 07:03 GMT
#31
Thanks translator!
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
February 12 2009 07:04 GMT
#32
Awesome interview. Now I wonder how others (FBH and Magma) would act during an interview.

On February 12 2009 15:53 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2009 15:43 Last Romantic wrote:
What's the second generation of the four kings?


[image loading]


Boxer in his youth... I am not worthy.
“Life is too short to embrace a woman I don’t love. I also think a woman’s life is too short to be embraced by a man she doesn’t love.” | CSGO: Cure Moonlight
KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
February 12 2009 07:14 GMT
#33
Wow, I love this new style of interview. It's fun and insightful.
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
February 12 2009 07:21 GMT
#34
On February 12 2009 16:03 zobz wrote:
Thanks translator!


Well it gives me something to do because my parents can't stand the sight of me playing starcraft and me writing stuff in english gives them the impression that I'm doing something productive.

Oh how I wait the night when everyone falls asleep.
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yoshtodd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States418 Posts
February 12 2009 07:31 GMT
#35
Flash seems like a really cool guy. Regardless though he's amazing to watch in the games themselves. His control, reactions and sense of timing is just rock solid.
moo
stack
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada348 Posts
February 12 2009 07:38 GMT
#36
it all seems convoluted...wasnt savior recently apart of some 4 person named group? all these labels are tacked on too quickly
life is short, dont F it up
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 12 2009 07:41 GMT
#37
On February 12 2009 16:38 stack wrote:
it all seems convoluted...wasnt savior recently apart of some 4 person named group? all these labels are tacked on too quickly


Actually these names have been on these guys for a while (4 Kings was decided by the fans pretty recently though, other than that everything else was there for a long time).

Savior part of a group recently? There isn't I believe.
dats racist
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
February 12 2009 07:55 GMT
#38
On February 12 2009 16:38 stack wrote:
it all seems convoluted...wasnt savior recently apart of some 4 person named group? all these labels are tacked on too quickly


Savior is part of a four member group. Boxer, Nada, Oov and Savior. It used to be a three member group of "LimLeeChoi" (Boxer, Nada, Oov), but Savior made his way in with his 2006 season performances.

The original "Four Kings" is probably one of the oldest tags in the scene. The 2nd generation tag is kind of "artificial" in that it was molded with the original "Four Kings" in mind. "TaekBeng" and "LeeSsang" were already terms commonly in use in Korean communities and it was only a matter of time before "TaekBengLeeSsang" got accepted as the most recognizable quartet in the scene currently.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20664 Posts
February 12 2009 08:21 GMT
#39
On February 12 2009 15:53 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2009 15:43 Last Romantic wrote:
What's the second generation of the four kings?


[image loading]


OH SHIT I remember when they played each other [old vs new]

it was FUN
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51599 Posts
February 12 2009 08:32 GMT
#40
kind of surprised that flash has an ex.

i remember the video where he did a tour around the school and some chick bullied him haha
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