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A post in PGR forum that I thought you might be interested in.
Source:
http://www.pgr21.com/zboard4/zboard.php?id=humor&page=11&sn1=&divpage=9&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=55564
로스트 사가 MSL 조지명식때 선수들이 나눈 얘기입니다~
This is a conversation amongst players on Lost Saga MSL Grp Selection day.
마재윤선수가 이영호선수랑 사설서버에서 서로 비밀 아이디로 만났다네요~ 안드로메다,콜로세움에서 무지 싸웠다는데........
Savior and Flash met in a private server, both with fake nicks. They played some EPIC games in Andromeda and Colliseum.
마재윤선수가 이영호선수를 놀라운 경기력으로 제압했답니다;;
Savior overwhelmed Flash with surprising performance.
마재윤선수는 염보성선수나 이영호선수인걸 알았다는데 이영호선수는 이제동선수라고 알았다는군요.......
Savior thought he was playing either Sea[Shield] or Flash. Flash thought he was playing Jaedong.
마재윤선수가 그만큼 연습때는 잘한다는 소리 같은데........
So this says something about Savior in his practice games.
근데 현실은 ㅠㅠ
아아 ㅠㅠ 제발 연습본좌만 되지 말고 방송본좌좀 되어주세요 ㅠㅠ
But the reality is TT
Ah.. TT please be a real Bonjwa not practice Bonjwa Savior TT
P.S:이영호선수랑 마재윤선수랑 안친한듯...... 마재윤선수가 존댓말을 쓰는군요
P.S: Seems like Flash and Savior not so close... Savior uses respectful version of Korean.
Some Comments on this post translated...
검은별 (2009-01-11 19:42:45)
감독님이 하시는 말이 거짓이 아니나 보네요.
그런데 정말 왜 마재윤 선수 어째서 방송에서는... ㅠㅠ
Coach wasn't lying.
But Savior in broadcasted matches.. TT
아리온 (2009-01-11 19:53:08)
제윤아 어지럽다 ㅠ
Savior you make me dizzy TT
이재열 (2009-01-11 20:05:48)
가만히좀 있어라...
Stay put...
이성은이망극 (2009-01-11 20:06:33)
프로게이머들은 iccup 잘 안하는줄 알았는데 A정도면 프로게이머군요.
빨리 올려야지!
I thought progamers dont play iccup a lot. So A lvl is probably progamers.
I gota rank up fast!
Epicurean (2009-01-11 20:09:16)
이성은이망극님// 저런 현역 최고 레벨 프로게이머들은 조금해서 그런걸로 아는데요?
김성제 선수 A+ 3개 가지고 있는데, 이유가 연습할 상대가 없어서(ㅡㅡ);;;랍니다.
I think its because current top progamers only play it occasionally.
IntotheRainbow has three A+, the reason being he has no one to scrim with (ㅡㅡ);;;
hide (2009-01-11 20:38:37)
원래 피지 초중반이랑 후반기 실력차이는 엄청 납니다. 시즌 초기엔 올리기 정말 어렵죠.
그러고 이번 피지가 1.15.3 버전만 지원해서인지 할사람만 하기 때문에..좀 더 쌘것 같더군요.
점쟁이님// 저번시즌 그 저그분은 이름은 말씀드리기 좀 그래서 이름은 안밝히지만...
어뷰저로 리셋된겁니다 -_-a
iCCup season skill lvl is significantly different from early season to late season. It is difficult to raise rank in early season.
++ OP only says "private server" but comments kinda confirm its iCCup.
*** i couldn't translate the convo in vid cuz im at work so no speakers. I'll add vid trans when get home prly.
VIDEO TRANS by: dasanivan (thanks!)
dasanivan
Video translation, as I heard it (feel free to point out discrepancies):
The conversation begins with the topic of how Flash's secret ID on ICCUP was compromised.
Flash: They say I was discovered because I hotkey all of my Command Centers.
Jaedong: Yeah, that's right. You were uncovered because of that.
Flash: How did they know that? That I hotkey all of my Commands?
Jaedong: That news just spread that way.
Flash: That's too much, how do they know that?
In the circle:
Hwasin: What's your rank?
Savior: Right now, A - A-
Jaedong: Is your ID a secret?
Savior: It's (Censored)
Flash: I thought I was playing someone else.
Savior: He played like, 3 games with me. But we played a 40 minute match on Andromeda and another 30 minute game on Colosseum.
Flash: Ah! I think I know what you're talking about. I lost, didn't I? We didn't play again because we were tired.
Savior: Yeah, doing just 2 games we played for 70 minutes.
Jaedong: The other day I played a 50 minute game with Flash.
Savior: I thought I was about to die from exhaustion.
Hwasin: I was playing some games, and I was around A-, right? So I was playing, and I was playing Toss, and we both reached a draw match. So the Terran lifted his building and went to the corner. And we had that for a day and a half. The game just played for a day and half. Went to sleep too and...
Savior: I know, one day that we were getting MSL photos taken, I was playing with some Zerg, and we reached a draw. So I just left it on and I went to get my photo taken, and when I got back he left. Was he RorO? or hyvaa or someone.
Savior: I mean, the first time we just played a normal game, but then the second one on Andromeda we played 40 minutes. I was really tired so I rested a bit, and a little bit later we played again, this time on Colosseum. And we played for over 30 minutes! We were so tired we didn't play again.
Flash: And I was like, it must be Jaedong hyung. So I really wanted to find out if it was Jaedong hyung.
Savior: I went to find out too. So I went to Memory and told him about it, and said, "hey, who's this Terran? I think it's Sea." I thought it was either Sea or Flash.
Savior: I was like, I think that's the style, it's either one of those two.
Savior: You asked if I was a progamer, didn't you.
Flash: Yeah. You said I was right.
Jaedong: Yeah, so I guess you played enough to know that.
Savior: Yeah, right. Progamers just know when they play each other.
***Added vd trans by dasanivan.
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Yes there was talk about this in the ICCup thread and the suspected accounts they used were also released (savior being 1wlao and flash popeyes).
Thanks for translation anyways, very interesting stuff.
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Katowice25012 Posts
Thanks for the translation, very intriguing
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MrHoon
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lollll
Savior: Goddamnit I played a game with Flash for 70 Minutes. What the hell
Jaedong: Yeah last time we played it was 50 minutes ;;
Flash: I seriously thought you were Jaedong. I was asking everyone who this guy was
But wow, Savior won, in a full out macro game against Flash.
Savior in offline >= Jaedong? wow
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T T Savior just bring this out to televised games.
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sAviOr : practice bonjwa.
I think his shattered confidence is perhaps the reason for not doing so well in televised matches anymore. Hopefully his mindset of destruction in 2009 can translate this practice skill into televised skill.
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On January 22 2009 03:28 MrHoon wrote:
lollll
Savior: Goddamnit I played a game with Flash for 70 Minutes. What the hell
But wow, Savior won, in a full out macro game against Flash.
Savior in offline >= Jaedong? wow
rofl
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Thanks for the translation, definitely says good things about Savior's play as of recent. I guess he's more serious about trying to smash some faces.
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I would a lot to get a hold of those replays...
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lol I wonder what firebat hero has to say about savior's success
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llol sweet interview, i guess savior still got it, but justhas the nerve not to perform well int he televised matches.
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Man stupid FBH just destroyed his nerves.
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Awesome story. I hope this is a sign of things to come.
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Bring this to Tv games?
And who said that flash doesn't play much better when he is on TV?
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has this been confirmed by the players?
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there is faith for savior <3
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Has he always been good in practice. or has he become good again.
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the game you mean?
the link gets you to a video in which Savior, Flash, JaeDong talk about it in a hallway. so its definitely confirmed if you mean if the mentioned game was actually played out.
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How has this leaked/gotten out? I don't get it... we don't have replays how do we know an epic game was played..>?
EDIT: Psyche... ther'es a video...
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can someone translate what they are saying in the video. sounds interesting...hwasin on iccup A- with toss?
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I thought Flash played as protoss on his Popeyes account. What happened tot hat?
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Dear god Savior sways A LOT in that video ~_~. That was literally like a 2 minute clip of them talking and Savior swaying back and forth the entire time.
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This is awesome. Thanks for this.
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On January 22 2009 09:19 beefhamburger wrote:
Dear god Savior sways A LOT in that video ~_~. That was literally like a 2 minute clip of them talking and Savior swaying back and forth the entire time.
lol very true, what's the deal with that?!
Thanks for translation, interesting stuff ^^
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On January 22 2009 10:14 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2009 09:19 beefhamburger wrote:
Dear god Savior sways A LOT in that video ~_~. That was literally like a 2 minute clip of them talking and Savior swaying back and forth the entire time. lol very true, what's the deal with that?! Thanks for translation, interesting stuff ^^
Metronome Zerg, obviously.
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Video translation, as I heard it (feel free to point out discrepancies):
The conversation begins with the topic of how Flash's secret ID on ICCUP was compromised.
Flash: They say I was discovered because I hotkey all of my Command Centers.
Jaedong: Yeah, that's right. You were uncovered because of that.
Flash: How did they know that? That I hotkey all of my Commands?
Jaedong: That news just spread that way.
Flash: That's too much, how do they know that?
In the circle:
Hwasin: What's your rank?
Savior: Right now, A - A-
Jaedong: Is your ID a secret?
Savior: It's (Censored)
Flash: I thought I was playing someone else.
Savior: He played like, 3 games with me. But we played a 40 minute match on Andromeda and another 30 minute game on Colosseum.
Flash: Ah! I think I know what you're talking about. I lost, didn't I? We didn't play again because we were tired.
Savior: Yeah, doing just 2 games we played for 70 minutes.
Jaedong: The other day I played a 50 minute game with Flash.
Savior: I thought I was about to die from exhaustion.
Hwasin: I was playing some games, and I was around A-, right? So I was playing, and I was playing Toss, and we both reached a draw match. So the Terran lifted his building and went to the corner. And we had that for a day and a half. The game just played for a day and half. Went to sleep too and...
Savior: I know, one day that we were getting MSL photos taken, I was playing with some Zerg, and we reached a draw. So I just left it on and I went to get my photo taken, and when I got back he left. Was he RorO? or hyvaa or someone.
Savior: I mean, the first time we just played a normal game, but then the second one on Andromeda we played 40 minutes. I was really tired so I rested a bit, and a little bit later we played again, this time on Colosseum. And we played for over 30 minutes! We were so tired we didn't play again.
Flash: And I was like, it must be Jaedong hyung. So I really wanted to find out if it was Jaedong hyung.
Savior: I went to find out too. So I went to Memory and told him about it, and said, "hey, who's this Terran? I think it's Sea." I thought it was either Sea or Flash.
Savior: I was like, I think that's the style, it's either one of those two.
Savior: You asked if I was a progamer, didn't you.
Flash: Yeah. You said I was right.
Jaedong: Yeah, so I guess you played enough to know that.
Savior: Yeah, right. Progamers just know when they play each other.
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On January 22 2009 09:19 beefhamburger wrote:
Dear god Savior sways A LOT in that video ~_~. That was literally like a 2 minute clip of them talking and Savior swaying back and forth the entire time.
Looks like it's cold, given Jaedong's jacket and the heater Flash is warming his hands in front of.
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lol Hwasin and his day long game.
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this insider stuff is great! keep them coming.
and lol... i thought a draw is a draw, but for iccup, man... they must want those points badly
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United States20661 Posts
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can someone translate what they said
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On January 22 2009 11:30 spydernoob wrote:
can someone translate what they said
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7 posts above..
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Damn if there was one rep that I wish would be leaked it's that one
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LOL at Hwasin, that's awesome. Thanks a lot for the translation, interesting that sAviOr of all people is having trouble bringing results to the audience
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lol Savior's photoshoot > RorO/Hyaa/someone
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Savior probably remembers adrenal upgrade in practice games.
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Thanks for the translation.
Lol at people finding out that it was Flash from him hotkeying his first CC 1-0 at the start. I thought I was the only one that did this and that it made me more noob since I never had to be precise when I wanted to go back to my CC ~_~;; Surely other players do this too....
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great translation. brings hope to those that believe in 2009.
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Well, this bodes well for savior if he can bring it back to the big screen.
lol @ hwasin
thx for the trans guys!
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The video is loading for me, anyone know another site?
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On January 22 2009 12:00 PhorClayton wrote:
The video is loading for me, anyone know another site?
you mean this video is NOT loading for you?
the video didn't work until i opened it in internet explorer.
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Baa?21242 Posts
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lol thx for the translation, thats great stuff 
I didn't think that progamers care so much about their iccup points :D
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On January 22 2009 09:19 beefhamburger wrote:
Dear god Savior sways A LOT in that video ~_~. That was literally like a 2 minute clip of them talking and Savior swaying back and forth the entire time.
yea lol i think it was cold thats why. And I dont think Korean use heater since they wanna save energy. flash and hwasin had heaters in fron tof them
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On January 22 2009 11:50 beefhamburger wrote:
Thanks for the translation.
Lol at people finding out that it was Flash from him hotkeying his first CC 1-0 at the start. I thought I was the only one that did this and that it made me more noob since I never had to be precise when I wanted to go back to my CC ~_~;; Surely other players do this too....
Canata does this as well, as do some other pro Ts.
I'm sure it wasn't JUST the CC hotkeying.
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so based on what hwasin said, you could look through matchlists of A rank players, until u found a suppper long game played, an deduce it was hwasin
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Very excited for the full translation :D
Looks like a good'n
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Hwasin's deep voice always catches me off guard. :p
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Good job on the translation.
Also, when Savior says he knew that it was either Sea or Flash, Jaedong says "How do you know that?/How can you figure it out?"
His confusion is funny. I guess he just dishes out ownage w/o caring who he's playing against.
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Practice bonjwa 
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thanks for the translations dasanivan, AloneInDaBunker and MrHoon!
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On January 22 2009 13:02 eXigent. wrote:
so based on what hwasin said, you could look through matchlists of A rank players, until u found a suppper long game played, an deduce it was hwasin No- it could also be the guy Hwasin played. TT
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And there is also the question if iccup displays the gametime properly or if something gets cut off.
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United States4126 Posts
On January 22 2009 11:50 beefhamburger wrote:
Thanks for the translation.
Lol at people finding out that it was Flash from him hotkeying his first CC 1-0 at the start. I thought I was the only one that did this and that it made me more noob since I never had to be precise when I wanted to go back to my CC ~_~;; Surely other players do this too....
I do too  Now I don't feel as lonely.
And seriously, the first thing I noticed when Savior talked was his constant swaying, and then Flash did a little bit too. Maybe swaying makes you a better SC player?!!?
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I'm sure they're swaying cuz its damn cold in Korea. They're even standing next to a heater.
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That was a cool video. Thanks for the translations!
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wow that was a really cool translation!
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Nice translation. I think it's kind of funny how they can bump into each other online, while being big rivals in the televised matches, and play friendly games.
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On January 22 2009 03:25 Puosu wrote:
Yes there was talk about this in the ICCup thread and the suspected accounts they used were also released (savior being 1wlao and flash popeyes).
Thanks for translation anyways, very interesting stuff.
This creeps me out.
I was checking out the account of popeyes less than a week ago.
And by that I mean in detail
Why? Because it's one of favourite cartoon characters of old and the name just caught my interest.
Little did I know what KTF-brat was behind the screen...
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lol i could have told with bwchart at first glance, who is who
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On January 23 2009 17:54 GinNtoniC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2009 03:25 Puosu wrote:
Yes there was talk about this in the ICCup thread and the suspected accounts they used were also released (savior being 1wlao and flash popeyes).
Thanks for translation anyways, very interesting stuff. This creeps me out. I was checking out the account of popeyes less than a week ago. And by that I mean in detailWhy? Because it's one of favourite cartoon characters of old and the name just caught my interest. Little did I know what KTF-brat was behind the screen...
Little did you know that he was watching you somehow from behind the screen.
"That´s not a progamer", he felt, "I can feel whenever a progamer checks out my profile, it´s ... different"
Creepy, yes.
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On January 23 2009 17:45 thedeadhaji wrote:haha awesome stuff, 
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On January 23 2009 02:22 SonuvBob wrote:
Hwasin's deep voice always catches me off guard. :p
yeah me too i always expect some kind of soft girly high/squeaky voice
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Russian Federation386 Posts
haha LOL @ Flash for thinking he was playing JD ^^
thx for the translation
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Great translation. This deserved to be a featured thread. So nice to read progamer's actual words to have an idea how of how they think.
Didn't know Savior's ZvT was thatttt good. It didn't show in his televised games.
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nice good to hear that top pro's r playing in iccup!
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reps or it didn't happen
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savior has such a funny voice i never expected it to be like that when he looks so pissed off and badass on tv
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On January 23 2009 22:36 whatusername wrote:
savior has such a funny voice i never expected it to be like that when he looks so pissed off and badass on tv
god but it's so sexy and he's so beautiful and perfect
asf,ghdrnlsdj why am i not gay
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On January 23 2009 22:56 anderoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 22:36 whatusername wrote:
savior has such a funny voice i never expected it to be like that when he looks so pissed off and badass on tv god but it's so sexy and he's so beautiful and perfect asf,ghdrnlsdj why am i not gay
maybe u are
:s
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On January 23 2009 23:46 Jaeden wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 22:56 anderoo wrote:On January 23 2009 22:36 whatusername wrote:
savior has such a funny voice i never expected it to be like that when he looks so pissed off and badass on tv god but it's so sexy and he's so beautiful and perfect asf,ghdrnlsdj why am i not gay maybe u are :s
Make us 2 O_O
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We are all just a little gay.
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ill have to admit sAviOr[gm] is the first man i have ever thought was... beautiful *_*
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On January 23 2009 19:13 [X]Ken_D wrote:
Great translation. This deserved to be a featured thread. So nice to read progamer's actual words to have an idea how of how they think.
Didn't know Savior's ZvT was thatttt good. It didn't show in his televised games.
it is when hes not choking all over the place
in his televised games he tends to play a brilliant early game, and then when it looks like hes got a good chance of winning, he just falls apart completely
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On January 24 2009 01:13 whatusername wrote:
ill have to admit sAviOr[gm] is the first man i have ever thought was... beautiful *_*
ejmmm... LOL? HAHAHA damn that surprised me then i laught XD
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On January 24 2009 01:21 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 19:13 [X]Ken_D wrote:
Great translation. This deserved to be a featured thread. So nice to read progamer's actual words to have an idea how of how they think.
Didn't know Savior's ZvT was thatttt good. It didn't show in his televised games. it is when hes not choking all over the place in his televised games he tends to play a brilliant early game, and then when it looks like hes got a good chance of winning, he just falls apart completely
This. He always seems to have really nice vessel snipes and sweet tricks and such.. then he'll just burrow a group of 10 lurkers in the middle of a mnm tank army and gets run over.
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I really want to see these non-televised games now~
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On January 24 2009 00:00 Rigodon666 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2009 23:46 Jaeden wrote:On January 23 2009 22:56 anderoo wrote:On January 23 2009 22:36 whatusername wrote:
savior has such a funny voice i never expected it to be like that when he looks so pissed off and badass on tv god but it's so sexy and he's so beautiful and perfect asf,ghdrnlsdj why am i not gay maybe u are :s Make us 2 O_O
I love savior man. lol
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thedeadhaji
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This is pretty cool.
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On January 23 2009 05:01 XYoonZ wrote:
Good job on the translation.
Also, when Savior says he knew that it was either Sea or Flash, Jaedong says "How do you know that?/How can you figure it out?"
His confusion is funny. I guess he just dishes out ownage w/o caring who he's playing against.
Hahahaha, I was thinking the same thing.
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United States3824 Posts
That was slightly interesting
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On January 24 2009 09:15 eXigent. wrote:while you are looking at replays romad, I was wondering if you knew who 1wlao is? Here are 2 of his replays where he is playing ZERG. These are both vs dimaga. game 1game 2
Copied from Who is Who Season 7 thread. Legit Savior reps? I guess.
Here are the links to their games.
Game 1
Game 2
Game 3
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Savior thought he was playing either Sea[Shield] or Flash. Flash thought he was playing Jaedong.
wow
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EPT
