On December 26 2008 06:34 rkarhu wrote:
Just a curious question. When did Leta transfer from Oz to OGN?
Just a curious question. When did Leta transfer from Oz to OGN?
He didn't. I think you're getting leta and lomo confused.
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On December 26 2008 06:34 rkarhu wrote: Just a curious question. When did Leta transfer from Oz to OGN? He didn't. I think you're getting leta and lomo confused. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
Edit: What newb honestly thinks FORGG's tvt is not good? LOL? | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
Overall good read. Id rate Leta as top 3 terran right now, he needs more games against dragons and above average zergs to challenge Young Ho though. Also remember that Leta didnt have the chance to play in GOM due to OGN not letting their players play in that tournament. One might speculate if he had done as good in the GOM tournament as the other tournaments, or if he would have been slaughtered due to the tournament being a dragonfest atm. Hopefully OGN lets their players play in GOM next season now that it's KeSPA sanctioned. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On December 26 2008 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote: leta is a really strong terran...he aint gonna be, and def aint is, the next terran star. Edit: What newb honestly thinks FORGG's tvt is not good? LOL? well statisically.. vT: 32-31 (50.79%) Forgg's TvT. vT: 20-7 (74.07%) Leta's TvT 50% isnt really that good. | ||
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On December 26 2008 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote: leta is a really strong terran...he aint gonna be, and def aint is, the next terran star. Edit: What newb honestly thinks FORGG's tvt is not good? LOL? Aside from Flash 5 months ago, I did not see anything spectacular. ForGG is a TvZ beast, and his TvT/TvP is above average. + Show Spoiler [edit] + fagit | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Also, doing well in Proleague and individual leagues are completely different things. Players typically prepare much harder for individual leagues, and there are a lot more factors involved than Proleague games. And I agree with Zulu that Leta really needs to play/win against more S-class players for me to be convinced. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On December 26 2008 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote: leta is a really strong terran...he aint gonna be, and def aint is, the next terran star. Edit: What newb honestly thinks FORGG's tvt is not good? LOL? ForGG's TvT is really not that amazing. ForGG throws away way too many units in his games. This can typically be compensated by by his insane macro, but it hurts more in mirror match-ups, especially when maps get mined out. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Guybrush
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On December 26 2008 06:24 d_so wrote: yeah i took out the "easy". but i know this: mind is flash's bitch. and flash... is he really that good at TvT? The last memorable TvT he had in terms of opponent was ForGG.. that did not go well. Honestly for like the last six months the only memorable games Flash has played are the ones he loses because all of his wins look the same (step 1 mine resources, step 2 roll opponent). Also I think Leta is really good but he hasn't shown that he's not just another Sea - sure he beat Sea recently but aside from that the parallels are very similar (proleague monster, no problem qualifying for individuals) Lastly, again I think Leta is good but you're really not helping your own credibility by saying "flash... is he really that good at TvT?" especially after pumping out a STATS-happy post suggesting Leta is really good (which for the last time, I also think he is). | ||
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
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Dyno.
United States286 Posts
I also agree that, after Flash, there's really no other Terran worth mentioning (maybe Mind. <3 Mind). However, I'm not ready to say he's anywhere near Flash's level until he starts beating elite players. If you look at his wins, he really doesn't have any upsets at all (and every elite player has upsets, or what were thought to be at the time, on their rise to glory). To be fair, it's not his fault that he hasn't had any opportunities to prove himself. I haven't done the numbers on it, but I'd be willing to bet that out of the top 10 players in proleague right now, Leta has had the easiest "stength of schedule" by far. With starleagues revving up, he'll finally have a chance to show everyone he's not just a proleague ringer. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
![]() Like... it's been around for about as long as there have been replays (or longer). EDIT: Tho this makes me sound like I don't appreciate this thread, which is totally wrong - great OP ![]() | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On December 26 2008 07:10 arb wrote: Show nested quote + On December 26 2008 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote: leta is a really strong terran...he aint gonna be, and def aint is, the next terran star. Edit: What newb honestly thinks FORGG's tvt is not good? LOL? well statisically.. vT: 32-31 (50.79%) Forgg's TvT. vT: 20-7 (74.07%) Leta's TvT 50% isnt really that good. Stats are misleading; fOrGG has massively improved his TvT. Let's look at his last six months, which is the best indicator of a player's overall, but current, strength. vT 15-7 (68%) I like Leta, and he is very good, but the only thing I'm worried about is when he faces good protosses and zergs. I mean the amount of TvTs he's played in compared to his other MUs is insane. | ||
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Makhno
Sweden585 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Come on Steve! | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
On December 26 2008 08:41 Makhno wrote: Leta is super-tight in long games, I believe he will take his PL prowess and translate it to individual scores with ease. And he deserves a spot on the Power Rank! + Show Spoiler + Come on Steve! I agree. He is one of those players for me, like a jaedong,sea,fbh,flash,bisu,free,effort that does a lot of teeny tiny little moves that are so subtle yet insightfully. I think leta is top 3-4 terran and has been since august. | ||
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disciple
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On December 26 2008 07:11 MrHoon wrote: Theres a difference between tvt being "not good" and being "above average". Above average is most certainly good, or everyone's tvt must be disgustingly poor. LolShow nested quote + On December 26 2008 07:02 Dazed_Spy wrote: leta is a really strong terran...he aint gonna be, and def aint is, the next terran star. Edit: What newb honestly thinks FORGG's tvt is not good? LOL? Aside from Flash 5 months ago, I did not see anything spectacular. ForGG is a TvZ beast, and his TvT/TvP is above average. + Show Spoiler [edit] + fagit newb | ||
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