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eazo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States530 Posts
November 30 2008 14:20 GMT
#21
wow really nice write up, read the whole thing. Very interesting. As stated I think 2009 will probably be the last year for the SC wcg,
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 30 2008 14:36 GMT
#22
On November 30 2008 16:58 iNfeRnaL wrote:

Edit: Also, you did list China as "foreigners" (Pj's medal counted for us), to me they are asians, so not really foreigners at all.
IF they are foreigners in your eyes its a big big blunder that no Chinese player is on your list duran. ;P

well the only reason not to count chinese is because they now have a semi established professional scene of their own. if you dont count them you shouldnt really count elky and grr and nazgul and stuff back when they were in korea, and i dont know how long the chinese pro scene has been established, before that they were essentially the same as everyone else.
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 30 2008 14:42 GMT
#23
nice post

but as a little improvement: Post something like

The players who made it to GF twice, 3 times, 4 times and so on
maybe who made it out of groups always who never
ect...

would spice this up a bit

never the less was a nice read and brought back some old memories


hatred outlives the hateful
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
November 30 2008 14:50 GMT
#24
This should be featured. Just add a few more pics. =)
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
November 30 2008 16:12 GMT
#25
I think IefNaij has the best chance to take a medal. Good read good read...
this is my quote.
AstraBoy
Profile Joined August 2006
Peru363 Posts
November 30 2008 16:15 GMT
#26
On November 30 2008 17:09 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2008 16:58 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Nice post, some good memories.
However your list of gosu foreigners that could win Kor's or a medal is a little bit biased ;P
Castro for example is much much better than Fenix right now, yes Fenix got talent etc bla I know.
Also Dimaga/White-Ra have decent chances, yea Dimaga's ZvZ isn't the best but his ZvT ZvP is quite nice.
Also I think we will see Draco next WCG again. Active.
DinOt has chances in ZvT ZvZ too...
Last but not least each of the 3 Russian T's has a good shot to take out koreans, proven before. (A2, Andro, BratOK).

Theres many people that have the potential to do so, most crumble under pressure tho.

Edit: Also, you did list China as "foreigners" (Pj's medal counted for us), to me they are asians, so not really foreigners at all.
IF they are foreigners in your eyes its a big big blunder that no Chinese player is on your list duran. ;P


Hey Pat I generally don't include China when I talk about the foreign scene, but as for medals at WCG I included them. I didn't put any Chinese in my list because (as I said) - I don't know much about the Chinese scene. There isn't much info available on the Chinese scene, and I don't really follow it very much, so I didn't wanna put any Chinese on there.

Again, you can dispute my list, offer your own list of people you think, those were just the names off the top of my head. Personally, I think Fenix > Castro, but it's open to debate =P I also think Dinot and DIMAGA are really strong, but I doubt they can get very far in WCG, and I think 4th place was White-Ra's best performance, personally I don't see him getting higher. I could be wrong as I said, but those are just my thoughts. The last portion is just my own personal opinion, anyone else can have their own


Castro > Fenix

I saw the games @ WCG Peru, and let me tell you that there was A LOT OF difference of level between them
like an A+ ( Castro ) vs a C- ( Fenix )
well now fenix is playing TvZ, cuz he realized that his toss is very chobo for castro's zvp
we will see what happens next year =)
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
November 30 2008 16:27 GMT
#27
What makes you put fenix and cloud over whitera? lol
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
November 30 2008 16:37 GMT
#28
I will never forgive fisheye for offracing on the finals against ogogo. WHY!?¿'¡¡? so close to gold... buaaaaaaa
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
November 30 2008 17:03 GMT
#29
On November 30 2008 16:58 iNfeRnaL wrote:

Edit: Also, you did list China as "foreigners" (Pj's medal counted for us), to me they are asians, so not really foreigners at all.
IF they are foreigners in your eyes its a big big blunder that no Chinese player is on your list duran. ;P


So no asians are foreigners ? What bout SEn, SteelHeart, and others. It's about whether they have a proscene, not about them being white dudes.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 30 2008 17:19 GMT
#30
On November 30 2008 20:07 mIsUZu wrote:
how is it that draco isn't in the potential medalist??

he really deserves one before he quits this game completely


personally I think after three years (06, 07, and now 08) of not being able to get one, he's lost his window of opportunity. he's already clearly stated he has 0 desire to really train any longer, and the "natural" advantages he's gotten from being a progamer won't be there forever, eventually his skill is going to deteriorate because of a lack of practice, and other people are going to get better so... I think his window for getting a medal is gone, although he's my favorite non Korean gamer and I wish he'd still train, but oh wells.

again, I explained why I didn't include Chinese in my list (I just don't know enough about the Chinese scene), and why i think Fenix > Castro. it's just my opinions
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 30 2008 17:55 GMT
#31
goddamn this is such a great post
Its nice to see all these information I didn't know about, especially the BO32
man that would've been fun
dats racist
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
November 30 2008 19:43 GMT
#32
Doesn't even seem that long ago when I heard of froz taking out boxer in the group stage. Or when fisheye played for gold against ogogo.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 30 2008 19:46 GMT
#33
took out Boxer twice if I recall, in a series of tiebreaks.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 01 2008 00:44 GMT
#34
update with some interesting statistics such as:

Most Consecutive/Total WCG Appearances, Best Record in Group Stage.

check it out... still looking at stuff so might add or change shit.
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
December 01 2008 00:58 GMT
#35
imo IefNaij is overrated -.-
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 01 2008 01:02 GMT
#36
updated again
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 01 2008 07:55 GMT
#37
ok think I'm done with that updates =P
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