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Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-26 02:27:21
October 26 2009 02:26 GMT
#181
On October 26 2009 10:56 KristianJS wrote:
oov's 27-0 v Z is the sickest record in progaming no doubt, I mean seriously how is that even possible?



TvZ before Savior was "imbalanced". Just like PvZ before Bisu was a complete nightmare.


Zergs had no idea how to play. There were no "standard" builds, because any standard zerg build had an standard Terran build that would counter it easily.


I would say it took a complete evolution in mutalisk micro + defiler usage to even the matchup.


Without those 2 skills, zergs wouldn't be able to win a game off Terran.
We decide our own destiny
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3720 Posts
October 26 2009 02:54 GMT
#182
Great article. Thanks Ver, ive never seen oov in this light before.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
October 26 2009 03:41 GMT
#183
iloveoov's wife is prettay fine
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 26 2009 03:44 GMT
#184
I don't agree with the premise that although Oov's genius is harder to discern than Boxer's that it's greater. I think the more compelling the genius, the easier it is for a casual fan to recognize it. But that's semantics - they're both amazing. You can't argue that Oov wasn't an amazing competitor.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
October 26 2009 04:45 GMT
#185
I always wondered why this wasn't a FE.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 26 2009 05:28 GMT
#186
Oh wow I never saw this thread until now either. Great read
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
October 26 2009 05:38 GMT
#187
Ver is the best poster on TL

I would pay money to read Savior/Flash articles by you Ver, are you still planning on writing them? =)
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
October 28 2009 05:49 GMT
#188
Thank you Ver! I started to follow the proscene closely since Oov's early prime days but never understood his games well. This article is such an eye-opener with very sharp analysis.

I'm surprised this article hasn't been added to Final Edits or Featured Threads at least? Personally I like to read articles with solid analysis like this than the fancy writing ones.
BoxerForever.com - the one and only international Boxer fansite since 2006 :)
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 28 2009 05:54 GMT
#189
On October 26 2009 13:45 cascades wrote:
I always wondered why this wasn't a FE.


it really should be, although fe's are kind of the place where threads go to die
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
December 15 2009 22:53 GMT
#190
For the sake of posterity, this needs another bump.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 15 2009 22:56 GMT
#191
Nice, thanks for the bump. I hadn't seen this before, but it puts things into perspective with all this discussion about Flash's streak.
Gangrel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States137 Posts
December 15 2009 22:58 GMT
#192
--- Nuked ---
RemYnisce
Profile Joined December 2009
United States24 Posts
December 15 2009 23:05 GMT
#193
Haha, I love the bus picture. :D
oov <3
If I were in World War 2 theyd call me spitfire.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
December 15 2009 23:18 GMT
#194
On October 26 2009 10:56 KristianJS wrote:
oov's 27-0 v Z is the sickest record in progaming no doubt, I mean seriously how is that even possible?


People should stop saying it was 27-0, it wasn't it was 27-3
beep boop
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
December 16 2009 01:07 GMT
#195
Oh man, this is great. Oov is like the least acknowledged amongst the four Bonjwas. Boxer is a legend amongst legends. Nada is the most successful of all time. Savior is the most recent - hence the greatest of TL following. Oov seems to be the underdog. I knew nothing about his career except that he turned Starcraft into the modern (and some may say boring) macrofest.

This article is very enlightening.
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 01:11:04
December 16 2009 01:10 GMT
#196
On October 26 2009 11:26 Tien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2009 10:56 KristianJS wrote:
oov's 27-0 v Z is the sickest record in progaming no doubt, I mean seriously how is that even possible?



TvZ before Savior was "imbalanced". Just like PvZ before Bisu was a complete nightmare.


Zergs had no idea how to play. There were no "standard" builds, because any standard zerg build had an standard Terran build that would counter it easily.


I would say it took a complete evolution in mutalisk micro + defiler usage to even the matchup.


Without those 2 skills, zergs wouldn't be able to win a game off Terran.
Really, thats weird, cause I can think of a lot of builds that are completely valid even now a days that are pre savior.

Edit: but it was completely imbalanced, yes.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 01:16:32
December 16 2009 01:16 GMT
#197
On December 16 2009 07:58 Gangrel wrote:
this thread is amazing can't believe I missed it the first time around

Ver ---> best poster in TL.net history?



vgl-cow would laugh
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
December 16 2009 01:18 GMT
#198
nice bump, i missed reading this
read it again
You can't fight the feeling.
Triple7
Profile Joined April 2009
United States656 Posts
December 16 2009 01:20 GMT
#199
That picture with his win ratios is appalling. 78% overall?!
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
December 16 2009 03:36 GMT
#200
On December 16 2009 07:58 Gangrel wrote:
this thread is amazing can't believe I missed it the first time around

Ver ---> best poster in TL.net history?




Yes, and as much as I love funny Belgian cows, VGL YOU GOT OWNED.
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