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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 03 2008 11:20 GMT
#21
imagine how many points kal would gain from a 3-0 vs jaedong XD
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
March 03 2008 11:28 GMT
#22
SKT in the top 3 again, thats awesome
The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-03 11:46:12
March 03 2008 11:45 GMT
#23
I used to care about Kespa rankings but over the last few months I've become more interested in TL elo rating (for the objective view) and Power Rank (for the subjective view). Kespa's secret formula and awkward mix of subjective and objective doesn't really cut it anymore now that we have those two, if you ask me.
Furthermore, tournaments should use matchup-specific maps
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 03 2008 11:48 GMT
#24
On March 03 2008 20:45 gravity wrote:
I used to care about Kespa rankings but over the last few months I've become more interested in TL elo rating (for the objective view) and Power Rank (for the subjective view). Kespa's secret formula and awkward mix of subjective and objective doesn't really cut it anymore now that we have those two, if you ask me.

I feel that it reflects the scene at least somewhat well in the sense that it defines the top players, shows which players are slumping, which are rising, etc. I think the top 3 is accurate, and perhaps the only name up there that isn't as accurate in the top 10 or so would have to be Savior (unfortunately), he has really lost it recently. Overall, I personally can't complain about the kespa.
Peace~
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6124 Posts
March 03 2008 11:48 GMT
#25
what part of kespa rankings are subjective?
#1 Terran hater
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-03 11:56:20
March 03 2008 11:55 GMT
#26
On March 03 2008 20:48 Highways wrote:
what part of kespa rankings are subjective?

How many points are given for each win/event, how long it lasts, etc, resulting in the numbers being largely incomparable. Basically it's arbitrary and doesn't have the statistical backing that the elo system does as a numerical system (where the numbers actually mean something), while Power Rank at least admits to subjectivity and doesn't have to worry about using a numerical system that doesn't even take opponent strength into account.
Furthermore, tournaments should use matchup-specific maps
proA.June91
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Vietnam445 Posts
March 03 2008 13:28 GMT
#27
lol go bisu
and also stork, too
I'm watching you
Fear is not what I'll get. It is what I've created myself
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
March 03 2008 13:34 GMT
#28
flash will be first in no time :D



and NaDa
Sawajiri
Profile Joined June 2007
Austria417 Posts
March 03 2008 13:36 GMT
#29
How the hell did Iris lose 6 spots with his rather good performance in the GSI?

Guess they don't count GSI at all?
starrek
Profile Joined December 2007
Japan164 Posts
March 03 2008 13:41 GMT
#30
congratulations jaedong for the #1 spot
very nice to see savior is still up there too!! :beeeer:
:beer:
Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1938 Posts
March 03 2008 15:10 GMT
#31
Bisu COME BACK!
the REAL ReSpOnSe
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
March 03 2008 15:26 GMT
#32
Ya Kal!! Destroy them!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
March 03 2008 15:36 GMT
#33
On March 03 2008 22:36 Sawajiri wrote:
How the hell did Iris lose 6 spots with his rather good performance in the GSI?

Guess they don't count GSI at all?


yeah I think I read somebody posting that GSI didn't count for these rankings
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
March 03 2008 15:49 GMT
#34
i like kespa more, since they give Bisu much more credit.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
March 03 2008 16:18 GMT
#35
lol, jangbi went up 30 places.

bisu, why ???
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-03 16:19:59
March 03 2008 16:18 GMT
#36
Janbgi, haha. 30 spots up.


Anyway, isn't this just another ELO system?
morfyy
Profile Joined May 2007
Romania593 Posts
March 03 2008 16:30 GMT
#37
GL to Jaedong zerg ruls this month
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
March 03 2008 17:14 GMT
#38
On March 04 2008 01:18 BlackStar wrote:
Janbgi, haha. 30 spots up.


Anyway, isn't this just another ELO system?



Uh... no
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
March 03 2008 17:24 GMT
#39
On March 03 2008 20:28 Amnesty wrote:
SKT in the top 3 again, thats awesome


Haha one way or another, i'm fine with it :D
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
March 03 2008 17:37 GMT
#40
Somebody should compile the distributions of those ranking-changes (+1, -3, +24 ...) of some of the past rankings. I think the list is getting more and more volatile. Not just at the top, but generally. Or you could just sum up all the intervals.

E.g. for the top 20 (older ones didn't have 30):
July 2005: 9
October 2006: 59
January 2008: 75
March 2008: 69 (neither the 24 nor the 30 was in the top20)
I just picked those randomly.
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