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The Best rookie top 3 in 2008(will be star player)

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heavysmoker
Profile Joined October 2007
Korea (South)17 Posts
January 04 2008 21:17 GMT
#1
Terran
1.mind(70%)
2.By.sun(17%)
3.flash(10%)


Zerg
1.haran(47%)
2.815(43%)
3.Zerg(9%)


Protoss
1.guemchi(93%)
2.best(3%)
3.pure(2%)



this poll is made by MBCgame


voted by game team managers & cochs, game casters, starcraft newswriters
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
January 04 2008 21:19 GMT
#2
Sad to see that Guemchi is the new protoss hope lol
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
January 04 2008 21:20 GMT
#3
the Terran lineups look way better than the other 2.
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
January 04 2008 21:21 GMT
#4
KTF zergs will pwn ya !
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omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
January 04 2008 21:24 GMT
#5
Guemchi? Jesus.
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
January 04 2008 21:25 GMT
#6
I am guessing we will get to see another no name dude on top soon.
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
January 04 2008 21:25 GMT
#7
On January 05 2008 06:17 heavysmoker wrote:

voted by game team managers & cochs, game casters, starcraft newswriters


How much votes are that ?
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
January 04 2008 21:27 GMT
#8
Guemchi just harbors suspicion towards him so that he can skyrocket even more impressively.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
January 04 2008 21:29 GMT
#9
On January 05 2008 06:19 ArC_man wrote:
Sad to see that Guemchi is the new protoss hope lol



i think that Flash should be higher than baby... shows alot more potential than Baby( who played less than 10 matches i think.) while flash made the semi finals of an osl on his first run?
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
January 04 2008 21:29 GMT
#10
and Geumchi is a badass
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5501 Posts
January 04 2008 21:31 GMT
#11
Looking forward to watching 815. KTF needs a new star player...
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51445 Posts
January 04 2008 21:36 GMT
#12
lol pressure fighting
Commentator
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 04 2008 21:40 GMT
#13
Wow GuemChi must have rigged that poll
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
January 04 2008 21:47 GMT
#14
SKYHIGH

jk

he looks so much like FBH though, do you think after each successive loss to FBH, Savior goes back to the CJ house and punches Skyhigh in the face?
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-04 21:49:48
January 04 2008 21:49 GMT
#15
On January 05 2008 06:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
SKYHIGH

jk

he looks so much like FBH though, do you think after each successive loss to FBH, Savior goes back to the CJ house and punches Skyhigh in the face?


He probably just saves it for the big losses, because if he punched him in the face for every loss he wouldn't look like FBH anymore :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Block
Profile Joined December 2007
United States67 Posts
January 04 2008 21:54 GMT
#16
God the Zergs are so bleh...
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 04 2008 21:59 GMT
#17
On January 05 2008 06:17 heavysmoker wrote:Zerg
1.haran(47%)
2.815(43%)
3.Zerg(9%)


wait there's a ZERG player named "Zerg"?

ohmygod T_T not even AfricaZerg, or TamponZerg, just Zerg?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
January 04 2008 22:00 GMT
#18
3% for best...
they have absolutely no clue
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
January 04 2008 22:05 GMT
#19
there's a zerg that named himself zerg. rofl. gosu!
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 04 2008 22:07 GMT
#20
On January 05 2008 06:59 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2008 06:17 heavysmoker wrote:Zerg
1.haran(47%)
2.815(43%)
3.Zerg(9%)


wait there's a ZERG player named "Zerg"?

ohmygod T_T not even AfricaZerg, or TamponZerg, just Zerg?


Sparkyz Zerg is his name I think

alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 04 2008 22:08 GMT
#21
On January 05 2008 06:59 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2008 06:17 heavysmoker wrote:Zerg
1.haran(47%)
2.815(43%)
3.Zerg(9%)


wait there's a ZERG player named "Zerg"?

ohmygod T_T not even AfricaZerg, or TamponZerg, just Zerg?


its hogil
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Phradamon
Profile Joined January 2008
Romania191 Posts
January 04 2008 22:17 GMT
#22
1. Flash
2. Mind
3. other

1. 815
2. haran
3 other

1. Best
2. Pure
3. other
I have the ultimate answer, i seek the ultimate question
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
January 04 2008 22:30 GMT
#23
Best, Haran, and 815 are definitely very impressive
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 04 2008 22:31 GMT
#24
yeah, Zerg is hogil
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
January 04 2008 22:40 GMT
#25
Mind and Flash are already established in my opinion.

I think the major 3 outside of that are Best haran and 815

Best needs to solidify his late game

haran has generally looked impressive as has 815

Guemchi briefly looked impressive but has been looking lackluster since

Kal has show a lot of promise, I'm surprised he isnt on the list.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 04 2008 22:44 GMT
#26
On January 05 2008 07:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
yeah, Zerg is hogil


aka Pause Zerg.
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 04 2008 22:53 GMT
#27
On January 05 2008 07:00 HiTexas wrote:
3% for best...
they have absolutely no clue

Thank you for dismissing the opinions of people that are actually working in the Starcraft pro-gaming industry. We should really do it more often.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
January 04 2008 23:13 GMT
#28
flash a rookie?

my votes go to kal, sun and 815
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iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
January 04 2008 23:36 GMT
#29
eh guemchi.. who?
Xellos <3
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-04 23:54:19
January 04 2008 23:53 GMT
#30
On January 05 2008 07:44 KizZBG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2008 07:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
yeah, Zerg is hogil


aka Pause Zerg.


oh shit was that hogil?? lololol i just assumed he'd gotten kicked off the team for that
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-05 00:31:41
January 05 2008 00:18 GMT
#31
How can best be a rookie. He was playing on TV in 2006.
ModeratorGodfather
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
January 05 2008 00:30 GMT
#32
i like mensol zero
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
January 05 2008 01:24 GMT
#33
On January 05 2008 07:53 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2008 07:00 HiTexas wrote:
3% for best...
they have absolutely no clue

Thank you for dismissing the opinions of people that are actually working in the Starcraft pro-gaming industry. We should really do it more often.

Come on, 3% for second vote is way too unrealistic. There is something wrong with that poll.
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
January 05 2008 01:28 GMT
#34
On January 05 2008 07:40 Diggity wrote:
Kal has show a lot of promise, I'm surprised he isnt on the list.


Because Kal is not a rookie, he has been doing all right for STX in proleague for a couple years now. He has been steadily improving his results.
Moderator
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
January 05 2008 01:42 GMT
#35
best, 815 and Kal
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-05 01:45:57
January 05 2008 01:45 GMT
#36
No matter if Kal already proved his skills and not a rookie anymore, he's the next Bonjwa!
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
January 05 2008 01:59 GMT
#37
I'm surprised Best didn't get more votes.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 05 2008 02:28 GMT
#38
KTF ZERG POWA
heavysmoker
Profile Joined October 2007
Korea (South)17 Posts
January 05 2008 02:36 GMT
#39
On January 05 2008 10:24 TheTyranid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2008 07:53 Jyvblamo wrote:
On January 05 2008 07:00 HiTexas wrote:
3% for best...
they have absolutely no clue

Thank you for dismissing the opinions of people that are actually working in the Starcraft pro-gaming industry. We should really do it more often.

Come on, 3% for second vote is way too unrealistic. There is something wrong with that poll.


it's real
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 05 2008 04:25 GMT
#40
815 is the man
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
January 05 2008 04:59 GMT
#41
WemadeFox_Baby ftw!!!!
w/e
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 05 2008 05:08 GMT
#42
GOGO SPARKYZ ZERG AKA HOGIL AND 815
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
January 07 2008 02:27 GMT
#43
why in the world is sun above flash?
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 07 2008 02:31 GMT
#44
where did guemchi come from? especially by that margin.
his only impressive win was over sea and that was on katrina.. the rest have been vs heavy slumps or just plain bad players and he has an overall losing record anyway.
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rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 07 2008 02:35 GMT
#45
On January 07 2008 11:31 IdrA wrote:
where did guemchi come from? especially by that margin.
his only impressive win was over sea and that was on katrina.. the rest have been vs heavy slumps or just plain bad players and he has an overall losing record anyway.


His first TV game was this proleague, cut him some slack. The Hanbit coach has no one else to send, so he's putting pressure on Guemchi, sending him out almost every match.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
January 07 2008 02:39 GMT
#46
Again, Zergs of KTF!
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
January 07 2008 02:49 GMT
#47
iwanna see more of 815
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 07 2008 02:53 GMT
#48
On January 07 2008 11:35 rushz0rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2008 11:31 IdrA wrote:
where did guemchi come from? especially by that margin.
his only impressive win was over sea and that was on katrina.. the rest have been vs heavy slumps or just plain bad players and he has an overall losing record anyway.


His first TV game was this proleague, cut him some slack. The Hanbit coach has no one else to send, so he's putting pressure on Guemchi, sending him out almost every match.

i didnt say he was bad, im just wondering what qualifies him as the next great protoss hope.
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EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
January 07 2008 03:03 GMT
#49
On January 05 2008 06:24 omgbnetsux wrote:
Guemchi? Jesus.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
January 07 2008 03:11 GMT
#50
On January 05 2008 06:29 Pressure wrote:
and Geumchi is a badass


stop promoting yourself
^-^
cknfpku
Profile Joined July 2007
Sweden24 Posts
January 07 2008 04:13 GMT
#51
They are probably judging their career potential hence why Baby and Guemchi got so many votes. They are younger, more time to improve.
kpcrew
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1071 Posts
January 07 2008 04:14 GMT
#52
haran and 815 are pretty good actually
Clan Lzuruha
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
January 07 2008 04:16 GMT
#53
seriously guemchi is soooo strong. i hope he does really well in the future.

also,

why is hogil not on this poll?
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
January 07 2008 04:18 GMT
#54
On January 07 2008 13:16 Day[9] wrote:
seriously guemchi is soooo strong. i hope he does really well in the future.

also,

why is hogil not on this poll?


i am retarded
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 07 2008 05:01 GMT
#55
On January 05 2008 13:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
815 is the man


YEAH CAPTAIN EYEBROWS!! :D:D:D
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 25 2008 18:02 GMT
#56
Almost one year has passed. I thought it'd be nice to bring this up for the sake of nostalgia and the xmas spirit!

Btw, those polls suck big time.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 25 2008 18:07 GMT
#57
Terran was sorta-right, others were so wrong...Best 3% lol
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
December 25 2008 18:09 GMT
#58
Flash 10%
Best 3%

hahahahaha
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 25 2008 18:15 GMT
#59
lol best and flash getting the ultimate shaft
dats racist
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
December 25 2008 18:16 GMT
#60
Who the heck is 'Zerg'?
Jaedong
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
December 25 2008 18:17 GMT
#61
theZerG???
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
December 25 2008 18:18 GMT
#62
Protoss hope is guemchi? And with %93 votes? How the hell get a vote when there's best and pure in the poll lol
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
December 25 2008 18:18 GMT
#63
TheZerg I presume.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 25 2008 18:35 GMT
#64
looks like they were pretty far off on the Protoss =P
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
December 25 2008 18:43 GMT
#65
I do not even know who Guemchi is t.t
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
December 25 2008 18:49 GMT
#66
so apparently polls suck at predicting the future
Graphics
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
December 25 2008 18:51 GMT
#67
lets make poll for 2009
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 25 2008 19:10 GMT
#68
I like 815, but it seems like Effort and Calm are better than him.
decembrie
Profile Joined December 2008
93 Posts
December 25 2008 19:30 GMT
#69
Leta and Lomo for 2009 !
nada.
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
December 25 2008 19:32 GMT
#70
On December 26 2008 03:09 village_idiot wrote:
Flash 10%
Best 3%

hahahahaha


Dude, the reason why their percentage is so low is most people think they're very impressive established players already. This poll is for rookies only. Most people do not think that Flash and Best are rookies, do you?
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 25 2008 19:33 GMT
#71
My bets for 2009 (Just so I can point and laugh at myself next year) :

Terran:
Sea.Really

Protoss:
Tempest

Zerg:
Effort
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
December 25 2008 19:34 GMT
#72
On December 26 2008 04:32 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2008 03:09 village_idiot wrote:
Flash 10%
Best 3%

hahahahaha


Dude, the reason why their percentage is so low is most people think they're very impressive established players already. This poll is for rookies only. Most people do not think that Flash and Best are rookies, do you?


Read the OP date.
Minimal effort.
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
December 25 2008 19:45 GMT
#73
Hope? For protoss? They have all the hope they can get with bisu and stork. The zerg seriously need a savior,a hope damn it.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
December 25 2008 19:59 GMT
#74
On December 26 2008 04:45 ilistis wrote:
Hope? For protoss? They have all the hope they can get with bisu and stork. The zerg seriously need a savior,a hope damn it.


Well, Jaedong looks like he's coming back into form. I'm confident he'll make it to at least RO4 in one of the starleagues. So I can ridicule this post a year from now here are the zerg who I think will make it big. I believe at least half these guys will be A-level within a year: Effort, Zero, Hoejja, maGma.
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Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
December 25 2008 23:36 GMT
#75
On December 26 2008 04:32 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2008 03:09 village_idiot wrote:
Flash 10%
Best 3%

hahahahaha


Dude, the reason why their percentage is so low is most people think they're very impressive established players already. This poll is for rookies only. Most people do not think that Flash and Best are rookies, do you?

even granting you the fact that you didn't look at the post date, that's silly logic. if that were the common view then they wouldn't even be options in the poll
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
December 26 2008 00:23 GMT
#76
On December 26 2008 04:45 ilistis wrote:
Hope? For protoss? They have all the hope they can get with bisu and stork. The zerg seriously need a savior,a hope damn it.

All puns intended, right?
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
December 26 2008 00:34 GMT
#77
Ill write one also so I can laugh at myself in 12 months.

Terran: Sea.Really, Leta, SaiR
Protoss: Stats
Zerg: Hoejja, Effort, Zero

Woo Jung Ho
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
December 26 2008 00:44 GMT
#78
On December 26 2008 09:34 iLoveKTF wrote:
Ill write one also so I can laugh at myself in 12 months.

Terran: Sea.Really, Leta, SaiR
Protoss: Stats
Zerg: Hoejja, Effort, Zero


You can't use Leta, he's been around forever.

SkyHigh, Hoejja, Young
Jaedong
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 26 2008 01:17 GMT
#79
When was this poll taken?
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
December 26 2008 01:23 GMT
#80
Early January. It's pretty funny to see more people predicting Baby to become a star than Flash, and GuemChi vs Best..
BW forever || Thall
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 26 2008 01:23 GMT
#81
On December 26 2008 10:17 LunarDestiny wrote:
When was this poll taken?

In January 08.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-26 02:15:36
December 26 2008 01:57 GMT
#82
hmm for 2009 -

T: sea.really's looking good... and obviously (!) MVP XD

P: by.movie :O

Z: effort? by.hero?

but yeah umm guemchi huh what? >.>

EDIT: OH WAIT. SANGHO HAS A PRETTY BEASTLY PL RECORD WHAT?
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 26 2008 02:01 GMT
#83
Terran. BOGUS
Protoss. BOGUS
Zerg. BOGUS

Merry X-mas Mihai!!
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
December 26 2008 02:45 GMT
#84
On January 05 2008 07:53 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2008 07:00 HiTexas wrote:
3% for best...
they have absolutely no clue

Thank you for dismissing the opinions of people that are actually working in the Starcraft pro-gaming industry. We should really do it more often.


Heh, never know what the future holds.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
December 26 2008 03:09 GMT
#85
lol @ guemchi..
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
December 26 2008 03:12 GMT
#86
What baffles me is the fact that he was NEVER good, not even during the beginning of the year.
Jaedong
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 26 2008 04:52 GMT
#87
How the fuck is Mind classified as a rookie for 2008 when he won a starleague in 2007?

And Flash 10% along with Best 3%. Oh do the times change.
God Bless
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
December 26 2008 05:00 GMT
#88
herb will be the next big Protoss.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
December 26 2008 05:20 GMT
#89
don't we have herb down as doctorK now?
raiame
Profile Joined December 2007
United States421 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-26 05:25:51
December 26 2008 05:23 GMT
#90
On December 26 2008 14:20 cgrinker wrote:
don't we have herb down as doctorK now?

That's Bul_T.
Herb is Herbert Shield
TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
December 26 2008 05:35 GMT
#91
i didnt realize what this was about untill i saw guemchi at 93%
my god how wrong they we're

good bump.
Dwell
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
December 26 2008 08:35 GMT
#92
Im rooting for ruby for next big terran
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
December 26 2008 09:26 GMT
#93
Lol.... Hogil = zerg.

Wow... this was a while ago. They kinda fucked up these picks...

What are the 2009 picks?
RIP eSTRO :(
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 26 2008 13:15 GMT
#94
Horang2 is the 'Next Big Thing' in Korea.

Everyone calls him the reincarnation of Nal_rA, and the savior of the shitastic protoss lineup of OGN.
dats racist
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
December 26 2008 14:06 GMT
#95
On December 26 2008 22:15 MrHoon wrote:
Horang2 is the 'Next Big Thing' in Korea.

Everyone calls him the reincarnation of Nal_rA, and the savior of the shitastic protoss lineup of OGN.


He did beat Flash and GGplay pretty easily...

xD
Mango @ U.S.East!
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
December 26 2008 14:11 GMT
#96
If i make polls for 2009 should i put them in this thread or make a new one
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 26 2008 14:23 GMT
#97
On December 26 2008 23:06 Scorpion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2008 22:15 MrHoon wrote:
Horang2 is the 'Next Big Thing' in Korea.

Everyone calls him the reincarnation of Nal_rA, and the savior of the shitastic protoss lineup of OGN.


He did beat Flash and GGplay pretty easily...

xD

alot of people seem to forget Flash and GGplay werent his first games

His first game was what made everyone in korea focused on him for. His first televised game he had like 30 dt kills and did something absolutely weird which got him the name "The 4th Dimension"
dats racist
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
December 26 2008 14:33 GMT
#98
On December 26 2008 23:11 Scaramanga wrote:
If i make polls for 2009 should i put them in this thread or make a new one


Make a new one.
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
December 26 2008 17:36 GMT
#99
On December 26 2008 23:23 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2008 23:06 Scorpion wrote:
On December 26 2008 22:15 MrHoon wrote:
Horang2 is the 'Next Big Thing' in Korea.

Everyone calls him the reincarnation of Nal_rA, and the savior of the shitastic protoss lineup of OGN.


He did beat Flash and GGplay pretty easily...

xD

alot of people seem to forget Flash and GGplay werent his first games

His first game was what made everyone in korea focused on him for. His first televised game he had like 30 dt kills and did something absolutely weird which got him the name "The 4th Dimension"


Where is that game? D:
Mango @ U.S.East!
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
December 26 2008 18:01 GMT
#100
I kind of called that Mind would suck. After he beat Bisu in the MSL it's like...you're never going to achieve anything else in your life ever again.

I can't even remember who by.Sun is. I had to TLPD it before I realized that it was baby, who hasn't done much of anything but lose.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
January 25 2009 21:03 GMT
#101
On December 27 2008 03:01 thunk wrote:
I kind of called that Mind would suck. After he beat Bisu in the MSL it's like...you're never going to achieve anything else in your life ever again.

I can't even remember who by.Sun is. I had to TLPD it before I realized that it was baby, who hasn't done much of anything but lose.


Mind is still quite strong and a threat to most players . If they tweak the maps a little in favour of terran and with a little bit of luck Mind could end up in a semi finals and from there on i think he could take it .
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 25 2009 21:11 GMT
#102
yeah mind was one of the best fantasy picks last PL season
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
January 26 2009 12:08 GMT
#103
mind is imba
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 26 2009 12:15 GMT
#104
When mind was at his peak he was fucking imba
Destroying zergs on Blue Storm 1.0 and taking protosses on Loki? IMO thats the same level of Flash being the only terran with actual wins on Katrina.

Wish he came back though, I fucking loved him
dats racist
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
September 18 2010 05:48 GMT
#105
I think this thread should be bumped again for the lulz

(also because bonjwa guemchi is gone )
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 18 2010 05:51 GMT
#106
Mind was really sick in his peak. I wish he would come back into the top tier though, I always really liked Mind.
RIP Aaliyah
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
September 18 2010 05:54 GMT
#107
Terran
1.mind(70%)
2.By.sun(17%)
3.flash(10%)

Nah, that won't happen.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
September 18 2010 05:55 GMT
#108
flash 10%

lol
POGGERS
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 18 2010 05:57 GMT
#109
what were this year's and last year's picks? lol
Writerptrk
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
September 18 2010 05:59 GMT
#110
Best 3%
Flash 10%
i dont even know the zergs
Translator:3
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
September 18 2010 06:04 GMT
#111
Guemchi =(

And I remember why I was a giant 815 fan in the first place. Sucks to see hes been mediocre post Blue Storm with a few moments of awesome
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
September 18 2010 06:04 GMT
#112
On September 18 2010 14:57 ArvickHero wrote:
what were this year's and last year's picks? lol


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84808&currentpage=7

also yeah when I first started watching flash/mind were pretty close in skill (or so the hype posts claimed... flash vs mind was a huge match)
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berzerger
Profile Joined September 2010
Turkey95 Posts
September 18 2010 07:21 GMT
#113
On January 05 2008 06:17 heavysmoker wrote:
Terran
1.mind(70%)
2.By.sun(17%)
3.flash(10%)


what a loser pick

flash %10
Plaaguu
Profile Joined April 2009
United States406 Posts
September 18 2010 07:24 GMT
#114
Lol it's probably cause all the Bisu fanboys voted him down... (haha j/k)

Kind of odd that best was voted so low though.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
September 18 2010 07:36 GMT
#115
Mind use to be insanely good, in his MSL run he took down oov, savior and denied bisu' third straight MSL Final wins. But maybe it is a fluke considering oov was way pass his prime, savior was not the same player he once was and Bisu's PvT is pretty inconsistent.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 18 2010 08:06 GMT
#116
THIS IS INSANE, 10% to MOST DOMINANT in the history of SC.. amazing!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
September 18 2010 09:36 GMT
#117
thats 10% because bisu fans hated him because of those BBS shit he pulled

dont know for sure though ))
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
September 18 2010 09:45 GMT
#118
Flash rofls %10.
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
September 18 2010 09:50 GMT
#119
Gotta love all these not so subtle Flash hype thread necroing
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
September 18 2010 10:23 GMT
#120
I reasd the thread a bit. The reason why Flash scored only 10% was that people back then already saw him as an established player. Comparable to how Leta wouldn't score very high in a 2010 Rookie poll.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
September 18 2010 10:26 GMT
#121
Flash was a really cheesy terran before he became the monster/ultimate weapon that he is now. Not all that surprising. Mind was also very cheesy, but he became the youngest MSL champion and a champion before Flash so the hype was there.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
September 18 2010 10:34 GMT
#122
On September 18 2010 19:26 bokchoi wrote:
Flash was a really cheesy terran before he became the monster/ultimate weapon that he is now. Not all that surprising. Mind was also very cheesy, but he became the youngest MSL champion and a champion before Flash so the hype was there.

hmm that makes me thinking one of those sc2 ladder cheesy fags may become the next sc2 bonjwa i guess we'll never know
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
September 18 2010 10:49 GMT
#123
Mind is still the youngest MSL winner of all time isnt he?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 11:13:57
September 18 2010 11:13 GMT
#124
On September 18 2010 19:49 SuperArc wrote:
Mind is still the youngest MSL winner of all time isnt he?


17 years, 1 month, and 14 days old. Flash was 17 years and 10 months old and somesuch days, so yeah. Kind of a cherry picked accomplishment though.
Remember Violet.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
September 18 2010 18:58 GMT
#125
On September 18 2010 19:23 Fenrax wrote:
I reasd the thread a bit. The reason why Flash scored only 10% was that people back then already saw him as an established player. Comparable to how Leta wouldn't score very high in a 2010 Rookie poll.


I actually think that in winter of '07 (before flash won his OSL) mind was probably seen as the better player (since he had already won an MSL over bisu.)
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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
September 18 2010 19:41 GMT
#126
Dude who else remembers when Guemchi got all those all kills!!!! i do. Those were the days. that was in like, 2009 - 2010 though.

Also, the people in this thread who said Effort in late 2008 were the most right.

Did flash really only start being good after/ during 2008?
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
September 18 2010 20:06 GMT
#127
This thread got bumped once again? :O

So many bumps going on these days.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
September 18 2010 20:19 GMT
#128
nice bump
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
September 18 2010 20:21 GMT
#129
On September 19 2010 05:06 Lebesgue wrote:
This thread got bumped once again? :O

So many bumps going on these days.

Its cause the off-season is very slow and the only new threads are very depressing.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Tempest[OEC]
Profile Joined February 2010
United States417 Posts
September 18 2010 20:29 GMT
#130
On September 19 2010 05:21 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 05:06 Lebesgue wrote:
This thread got bumped once again? :O

So many bumps going on these days.

Its cause the off-season is very slow and the only new threads are very depressing.

That and all the Flash fans are finding threads that predicted his monster rising. Haha.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
September 18 2010 20:44 GMT
#131
LOL India took away the great Protoss hope.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
September 18 2010 20:44 GMT
#132
nice bump. interesting picks by ppl back in 2008
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 18 2010 21:03 GMT
#133
At the beginning of 2008, it made sense to pick Mind as the best new player since he had just won an MSL and the best Flash had done was 4th in an OSL.

Mind come bacckkkk
Liquipedia
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 18 2010 21:19 GMT
#134
This was back when Flash just cheesed like craaaaazzzzy. Was before he crushed through Stork in 2 finals.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
September 18 2010 21:26 GMT
#135
This guy got it (mid 2007): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=55915#2
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
September 18 2010 21:32 GMT
#136
On September 19 2010 06:26 cz wrote:
This guy got it (mid 2007): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=55915#2

lol that thread is gold. Funny to see people's opinion's before flash raped everyone.
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
September 18 2010 21:46 GMT
#137
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
September 18 2010 21:49 GMT
#138
On September 19 2010 06:26 cz wrote:
This guy got it (mid 2007): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=55915#2


Now, that's pretty hilarious
TaimalaiX
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada88 Posts
September 18 2010 22:09 GMT
#139
On September 19 2010 06:26 cz wrote:
This guy got it (mid 2007): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=55915#2


My favorite part of that is the guy saying "I think TL is biased against him". I'm waiting for someone to use this as an argument in the PR.

Closely followed by Cpt.Obvious just going off on how Flash needs to die because SC doesn't need anymore faggot cheesy terrans. Of course this is only interesting because he has the "Happy Birthday" icon.
Not a big fan of Nada. There, I said it.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
September 18 2010 22:12 GMT
#140
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
September 18 2010 22:14 GMT
#141
On September 19 2010 06:26 cz wrote:
This guy got it (mid 2007): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=55915#2

pure gold!
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 18 2010 22:17 GMT
#142
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
September 18 2010 22:22 GMT
#143
On September 19 2010 07:17 Piy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared


When he owned Beesuit in the MSL, but he never really stood out as a S class. Just close.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 18 2010 22:28 GMT
#144
On September 19 2010 07:14 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 06:26 cz wrote:
This guy got it (mid 2007): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=55915#2

pure gold!

he should get unbanned for that thread
and lol at grobo's comment. its exactly what happened.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 18 2010 23:26 GMT
#145
On September 19 2010 07:22 Disregard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:17 Piy wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared


When he owned Beesuit in the MSL, but he never really stood out as a S class. Just close.


All this talk of S-class is meaningless. Mind was one of the best TvT, had the best timing TvP ever and had incredible TvZ.

Most good Terrans were in agreement that Mind was a level above all but maybe Flash for quite a while
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 18 2010 23:42 GMT
#146
On September 19 2010 08:26 Piy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:22 Disregard wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:17 Piy wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared


When he owned Beesuit in the MSL, but he never really stood out as a S class. Just close.


All this talk of S-class is meaningless. Mind was one of the best TvT, had the best timing TvP ever and had incredible TvZ.

Most good Terrans were in agreement that Mind was a level above all but maybe Flash for quite a while

This.

I'd say until forgg came out of nowhere to win Arena, Mind was the clear number 2 Terran.
Liquipedia
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 19 2010 00:03 GMT
#147
On September 19 2010 07:14 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 06:26 cz wrote:
This guy got it (mid 2007): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=55915#2

pure gold!


HOLY CRAP, we need this guy to pick out the next big players, ASAP!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
September 19 2010 00:30 GMT
#148
Fox: rhe Terran generating machine. All 3 terrans out of there(Flash was on fox before KTF)
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
September 19 2010 00:35 GMT
#149
On September 19 2010 09:30 RainmanMP wrote:
Fox: rhe Terran generating machine. All 3 terrans out of there(Flash was on fox before KTF)

He started in KOR, transferred to Pantech, then to KTF. He wasn't in Pantech for that long, so I don't think crediting them with 'generating' him is really fair. Dumb move on their part though.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Zhang
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States129 Posts
September 19 2010 00:56 GMT
#150
From: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66059&currentpage=2


On February 05 2008 11:23 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2008 08:40 OneOther wrote:


GO FLASH! BEAT JD!!



Hell no

If some semi-promising mostly unspectacular Terran beats the only hope of Zerg progaming today I will cry





lol
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 01:11:56
September 19 2010 01:08 GMT
#151
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Not really. He was really good, but he was never great. Compare Flash to Mind at Mind's "peak" and it will probably favor Flash. In fact, just counting 2007 their records are nearly identical, slight advantage going to Flash, only real difference is Flash got dismantled by Stork in the Daum OSL, and Bisu crumbled to Mind in the MSL. Mind had a lot of talent, and people expected him to be great, but Flash was still way more promising.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
September 19 2010 01:19 GMT
#152
On September 19 2010 10:08 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Not really. He was really good, but he was never great. Compare Flash to Mind at Mind's "peak" and it will probably favor Flash. In fact, just counting 2007 their records are nearly identical, slight advantage going to Flash, only real difference is Flash got dismantled by Stork in the Daum OSL, and Bisu crumbled to Mind in the MSL. Mind had a lot of talent, and people expected him to be great, but Flash was still way more promising.


Ya definitely. After his MSL win, everyone was expecting great things out of him. We had just come off sAviOr era and Bisu was really taking shape so the terran presence in starleagues wasn't too good. Mind had some really interesting TvP but I remember his TvZ was kind of sloppy (sAviOr still lost to it). He was good but no one near god and he fell out pretty quickly.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 01:26:24
September 19 2010 01:24 GMT
#153
The fact is, Mind's GomTV run was extremely impressive. It doesn't matter if Flash's overall win rate was the similar during the period when Mind defeated the 3rd bonjwa Iloveoov, 4th bonjwa Savior and 5th bonjwa candidate Bisu in one run at the age of 17, the youngest title holder in history at that time.

He nailed in Savior's last gasp at revival and destroyed Bisu's chance at bonjwahood.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 19 2010 01:25 GMT
#154
I REALLY want Mind to come back! (his MSL run was the firs MSL final I've watched in my life!)
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
September 19 2010 01:28 GMT
#155
I didnt want to use "S-class" but comparing him to Flash would be just pointless.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 19 2010 06:27 GMT
#156
10% to bonjwa.

amazing
Jaedong.
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
September 19 2010 06:57 GMT
#157
Haha Guemchi bested Best.

Goes to show how unpredictable this e-sport can be.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
September 19 2010 10:41 GMT
#158
wow why was this guy banned??
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=55915

he had awesome skills at predicting .
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green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
September 19 2010 11:07 GMT
#159
On September 19 2010 19:41 aimaimaim wrote:
wow why was this guy banned??
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=55915

he had awesome skills at predicting .


because of spoilers? :D
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
September 19 2010 11:24 GMT
#160
On September 19 2010 08:26 Piy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:22 Disregard wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:17 Piy wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared


When he owned Beesuit in the MSL, but he never really stood out as a S class. Just close.


All this talk of S-class is meaningless. Mind was one of the best TvT, had the best timing TvP ever and had incredible TvZ.

Most good Terrans were in agreement that Mind was a level above all but maybe Flash for quite a while


I was always under the impression that Mind's TvZ was mediocre at best.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 19 2010 12:21 GMT
#161
hahaha great bump!
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
September 19 2010 13:33 GMT
#162
On September 19 2010 07:17 Piy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared


It's because he was just so stale. Nothing entertaining, and nothing innovative. I mean yea Flash was boring for about a year or 2 with his mega turtle TvP but he added a whole new mentality to the matchup. There was really nothing to remember from mind other than he was a great player at one point.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
September 19 2010 13:36 GMT
#163
guemchi? pffft. BEST FTW!

and FLASH TOO!
yoyo!
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
September 19 2010 14:24 GMT
#164
Isn't mind still pretty damn good?

And who the hell is By.Sun?
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
September 19 2010 15:07 GMT
#165
On September 19 2010 23:24 Thesecretaznman wrote:
Isn't mind still pretty damn good?

And who the hell is By.Sun?

Mind is far from good, in fact he is one of the worst Terrans playing right now. Linky.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 19 2010 15:11 GMT
#166
On September 19 2010 23:24 Thesecretaznman wrote:
Isn't mind still pretty damn good?

And who the hell is By.Sun?



By.Sun = Baby?
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
September 19 2010 17:41 GMT
#167
On September 19 2010 22:33 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:17 Piy wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared


It's because he was just so stale. Nothing entertaining, and nothing innovative. I mean yea Flash was boring for about a year or 2 with his mega turtle TvP but he added a whole new mentality to the matchup. There was really nothing to remember from mind other than he was a great player at one point.


He wasnt called Rommel for no reason.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 18:27:01
September 19 2010 18:26 GMT
#168
Btw, can somebody remind me why Guemchi had 93% over Best and Pure? I know that he defeated Bisu in this one proleague game and RealPenguin made a huge fuss over that. But what else?
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
September 19 2010 19:59 GMT
#169
My bets for 2009 (Just so I can point and laugh at myself next year) :

Terran:
Sea.Really

Protoss:
Tempest

Zerg:
Effort
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 01:00:07
September 20 2010 00:57 GMT
#170
On September 20 2010 02:41 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 22:33 SubtleArt wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:17 Piy wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared


It's because he was just so stale. Nothing entertaining, and nothing innovative. I mean yea Flash was boring for about a year or 2 with his mega turtle TvP but he added a whole new mentality to the matchup. There was really nothing to remember from mind other than he was a great player at one point.


He wasnt called Rommel for no reason.


People give nicknames to players easily. When you think of Forgg, people call him the Time Attacker but reality was that he, while fairly good at timing attacks, was just exploiting a play style that people found difficult to deal with at the time.

Mind was a part of the era of the timing attack terran and they went out of fashion fairly quickly. At the time Mind definitely had more potential than Flash because he was actually good and putting out actual results (while fanboys were crying/laughing at Flash cheesing Bisu/himself out of the OSL) but after Flash's dual series with Stork there was no guessing who would become the better terran.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
September 23 2010 19:05 GMT
#171
ahahahah Flash... that's hilarious
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
September 23 2010 19:46 GMT
#172
On September 20 2010 04:59 nodule wrote:
Show nested quote +
My bets for 2009 (Just so I can point and laugh at myself next year) :

Terran:
Sea.Really

Protoss:
Tempest

Zerg:
Effort


Sea.Really actually has been around for quite some time already.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 19:52:19
September 23 2010 19:49 GMT
#173
I betcha, Stats winning a starleague next time.

edit: or roro
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krazymunky
Profile Joined June 2008
United States727 Posts
September 23 2010 20:24 GMT
#174
On September 20 2010 03:26 dukethegold wrote:
Btw, can somebody remind me why Guemchi had 93% over Best and Pure? I know that he defeated Bisu in this one proleague game and RealPenguin made a huge fuss over that. But what else?


i remember him going crazy in the Winners League, all killed some team? i dont remember.
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Zeridian
Profile Joined April 2009
United States198 Posts
September 23 2010 20:46 GMT
#175
apparently he was 100% against bisu *last night* (referring back to realpenguin's article), then he went back to being mediocre. Well possibly after the allkill, kind of like Neo G Soulkey.
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
September 23 2010 22:27 GMT
#176
On September 19 2010 20:07 green.at wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 19:41 aimaimaim wrote:
wow why was this guy banned??
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=55915

he had awesome skills at predicting .


because of spoilers? :D


LOL
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Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
September 24 2010 04:37 GMT
#177
ahh 3% best

now he has the jesus PvT
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night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
September 24 2010 04:46 GMT
#178
Its not so much jesus PvT as 'i have the z and d keys glued down on my keyboard" PvT
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
September 24 2010 06:29 GMT
#179
great bump. love seeing what people thought back in 2008
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
September 24 2010 09:43 GMT
#180
On September 24 2010 13:46 night terrors wrote:
Its not so much jesus PvT as 'i have the z and d keys glued down on my keyboard" PvT

Hmm how is that not jesus?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
ToeJam
Profile Joined April 2009
United States282 Posts
September 24 2010 13:54 GMT
#181
Looool I love the bump. I can't believe Flash was not #3 by a long shot :> What a newb.
IGoUnseen
Profile Joined September 2009
United States72 Posts
September 26 2010 17:40 GMT
#182
This thread makes me laugh really hard about old predictions.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=62621
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