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The Best rookie top 3 in 2008(will be star player) - Page 8

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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
September 18 2010 22:14 GMT
#141
On September 19 2010 06:26 cz wrote:
This guy got it (mid 2007): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=55915#2

pure gold!
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 18 2010 22:17 GMT
#142
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
September 18 2010 22:22 GMT
#143
On September 19 2010 07:17 Piy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared


When he owned Beesuit in the MSL, but he never really stood out as a S class. Just close.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 18 2010 22:28 GMT
#144
On September 19 2010 07:14 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 06:26 cz wrote:
This guy got it (mid 2007): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=55915#2

pure gold!

he should get unbanned for that thread
and lol at grobo's comment. its exactly what happened.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 18 2010 23:26 GMT
#145
On September 19 2010 07:22 Disregard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:17 Piy wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared


When he owned Beesuit in the MSL, but he never really stood out as a S class. Just close.


All this talk of S-class is meaningless. Mind was one of the best TvT, had the best timing TvP ever and had incredible TvZ.

Most good Terrans were in agreement that Mind was a level above all but maybe Flash for quite a while
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 18 2010 23:42 GMT
#146
On September 19 2010 08:26 Piy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:22 Disregard wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:17 Piy wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared


When he owned Beesuit in the MSL, but he never really stood out as a S class. Just close.


All this talk of S-class is meaningless. Mind was one of the best TvT, had the best timing TvP ever and had incredible TvZ.

Most good Terrans were in agreement that Mind was a level above all but maybe Flash for quite a while

This.

I'd say until forgg came out of nowhere to win Arena, Mind was the clear number 2 Terran.
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 19 2010 00:03 GMT
#147
On September 19 2010 07:14 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 06:26 cz wrote:
This guy got it (mid 2007): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=55915#2

pure gold!


HOLY CRAP, we need this guy to pick out the next big players, ASAP!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
September 19 2010 00:30 GMT
#148
Fox: rhe Terran generating machine. All 3 terrans out of there(Flash was on fox before KTF)
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
September 19 2010 00:35 GMT
#149
On September 19 2010 09:30 RainmanMP wrote:
Fox: rhe Terran generating machine. All 3 terrans out of there(Flash was on fox before KTF)

He started in KOR, transferred to Pantech, then to KTF. He wasn't in Pantech for that long, so I don't think crediting them with 'generating' him is really fair. Dumb move on their part though.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Zhang
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States129 Posts
September 19 2010 00:56 GMT
#150
From: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66059&currentpage=2


On February 05 2008 11:23 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2008 08:40 OneOther wrote:


GO FLASH! BEAT JD!!



Hell no

If some semi-promising mostly unspectacular Terran beats the only hope of Zerg progaming today I will cry





lol
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 01:11:56
September 19 2010 01:08 GMT
#151
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Not really. He was really good, but he was never great. Compare Flash to Mind at Mind's "peak" and it will probably favor Flash. In fact, just counting 2007 their records are nearly identical, slight advantage going to Flash, only real difference is Flash got dismantled by Stork in the Daum OSL, and Bisu crumbled to Mind in the MSL. Mind had a lot of talent, and people expected him to be great, but Flash was still way more promising.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
September 19 2010 01:19 GMT
#152
On September 19 2010 10:08 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Not really. He was really good, but he was never great. Compare Flash to Mind at Mind's "peak" and it will probably favor Flash. In fact, just counting 2007 their records are nearly identical, slight advantage going to Flash, only real difference is Flash got dismantled by Stork in the Daum OSL, and Bisu crumbled to Mind in the MSL. Mind had a lot of talent, and people expected him to be great, but Flash was still way more promising.


Ya definitely. After his MSL win, everyone was expecting great things out of him. We had just come off sAviOr era and Bisu was really taking shape so the terran presence in starleagues wasn't too good. Mind had some really interesting TvP but I remember his TvZ was kind of sloppy (sAviOr still lost to it). He was good but no one near god and he fell out pretty quickly.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 01:26:24
September 19 2010 01:24 GMT
#153
The fact is, Mind's GomTV run was extremely impressive. It doesn't matter if Flash's overall win rate was the similar during the period when Mind defeated the 3rd bonjwa Iloveoov, 4th bonjwa Savior and 5th bonjwa candidate Bisu in one run at the age of 17, the youngest title holder in history at that time.

He nailed in Savior's last gasp at revival and destroyed Bisu's chance at bonjwahood.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 19 2010 01:25 GMT
#154
I REALLY want Mind to come back! (his MSL run was the firs MSL final I've watched in my life!)
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
September 19 2010 01:28 GMT
#155
I didnt want to use "S-class" but comparing him to Flash would be just pointless.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 19 2010 06:27 GMT
#156
10% to bonjwa.

amazing
Jaedong.
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
September 19 2010 06:57 GMT
#157
Haha Guemchi bested Best.

Goes to show how unpredictable this e-sport can be.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
September 19 2010 10:41 GMT
#158
wow why was this guy banned??
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=55915

he had awesome skills at predicting .
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
September 19 2010 11:07 GMT
#159
On September 19 2010 19:41 aimaimaim wrote:
wow why was this guy banned??
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=55915

he had awesome skills at predicting .


because of spoilers? :D
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
September 19 2010 11:24 GMT
#160
On September 19 2010 08:26 Piy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2010 07:22 Disregard wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:17 Piy wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:12 SuperArc wrote:
On September 19 2010 06:46 zer0das wrote:
This poll was retarded even back then. No one voted for Flash because he wasn't really a rookie. Neither was Mind...nor a bunch of players on the list. No one really thought Mind was more promising- yeah they thought he was going to be a lot better than he turned out, but if you asked in a straight up poll who would have a better career, I'm guessing 90% would have said Flash.


You know Mind was terran god at his peak?


Mind was so so good for so so long and noone really cared


When he owned Beesuit in the MSL, but he never really stood out as a S class. Just close.


All this talk of S-class is meaningless. Mind was one of the best TvT, had the best timing TvP ever and had incredible TvZ.

Most good Terrans were in agreement that Mind was a level above all but maybe Flash for quite a while


I was always under the impression that Mind's TvZ was mediocre at best.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
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