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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-26 08:30:48
November 26 2007 08:27 GMT
#41
Mind is gonna be more huge than flash soon enough, i personally dont think flash is so great against T cuz he always cheese rush against T players like Nada and when he doesnt cheese rush he usually looses to most players and i bet u that if flash didnt cheese rush twice in the OSL against Bisu he would have gotten owned and Mind didnt actually even cheese rush Bisu once and dominated him with nice macro, micro, and better strategy then any1 so Mind would be more successful then Flash and now WeMade is rising up becuz of him and Nada :D
Edit: just checked TLPD his actually not bad against T but he aint really good against P
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
November 26 2007 12:05 GMT
#42
Mind is Midas 2000.

What sets him apart from Midas is that he's too young to know fear, and he was blessed with a little luck.
returns upon momentous occasions.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
November 26 2007 12:18 GMT
#43
Flash is Cloud 2000

won't amount to much
returns upon momentous occasions.
Wraithlin
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom50 Posts
November 26 2007 14:21 GMT
#44
I am sure it is just a sign of my ignorance of SC, but I really feel that Minds game is just a strong counter to Saviour and Bisus early tech builds. Both Saviour and Bisu go fast tech, with minimal units mid-game and then attempt to push quickly to a large number of expansions. Minds game is a conservative opening followed up by a timing push which comes at the point both Bisu and Saviour are at their weakest; the early midgame when they have few units with which to exploit their tech advantage. Mind knew exactly when to push even when he could not scout Saviour/Mind which to me is an indication that both were playing too predictably.

For me the question is wether Saviour and Bisu can show more variety in the games (Saviour has certainly been mixing it up heavily), and how well Mind can play against opponents when he cant tell exactly what they are doing even when he hasnt got a good scout on them.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 10 2009 18:52 GMT
#45
I can't read a thread like this and NOT bump it. Absolutely amazing to see how the majority turned out to be wrong, and some of the comments in this thread are hilarious in hindsight.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
July 10 2009 18:54 GMT
#46
LOL, how did you manage to find this.
Graphics
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
July 10 2009 18:55 GMT
#47
Good for a laugh. xD
sMi.SyMPhOnY
Profile Joined December 2006
United States226 Posts
July 10 2009 18:57 GMT
#48
omg "flash isn't bonjwa quality"
:)
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
July 10 2009 18:59 GMT
#49
when i first read this, i thought it was recently made and i thought "wtf ppl here think mind is better than flash and flash sucks vs T"

hahaha i cant believe you found this

thanks alot
the dreamer, mantoss, storm zerg, the cowboy, the spark terran, the ultimate weapon...what more can i say? GO KTF
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
July 10 2009 19:00 GMT
#50
On November 26 2007 21:18 HonestTea wrote:
Flash is Cloud 2000

won't amount to much

orofl
cw)minsean(ru
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
July 10 2009 19:01 GMT
#51
On November 26 2007 21:18 HonestTea wrote:
Flash is Cloud 2000

won't amount to much

This comment is gold.

....although he has only won one starleague.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
July 10 2009 19:02 GMT
#52
this is hilarious
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
July 10 2009 19:05 GMT
#53
poor mind :\
Free Palestine
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 10 2009 19:09 GMT
#54
On July 11 2009 04:01 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2007 21:18 HonestTea wrote:
Flash is Cloud 2000

won't amount to much

This comment is gold.

....although he has only won one starleague.


If you really think about it, neither has amounted to becoming a "post-NaDa".

Flash hasn't made it far in the real OSL or MSL since his runs in Arena MSL (Ro4) and winning Bacchus. He's made Ro8 a couple times in OSL, but never really amounted to much with it. He's ace for KT, but what does that say? In the two pressure situations he's been in for KT, he hasn't pulled through (WL Playoffs).

Mind won GOMS3 MSL and then... died. Failed to qualify for the most recent round of Star Leagues, the round before that he did poorly. In fact, Mind hasn't made an MSL since Arena MSL (which he was seeded into) way back last summer.

Granted, Flash seems more attractive a player than Mind, but neither is really the "Post-NaDa" at this point, and I doubt either will be.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 19:14:49
July 10 2009 19:14 GMT
#55
On July 11 2009 04:09 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2009 04:01 Harem wrote:
On November 26 2007 21:18 HonestTea wrote:
Flash is Cloud 2000

won't amount to much

This comment is gold.

....although he has only won one starleague.


If you really think about it, neither has amounted to becoming a "post-NaDa".

Flash hasn't made it far in the real OSL or MSL since his runs in Arena MSL (Ro4) and winning Bacchus. He's made Ro8 a couple times in OSL, but never really amounted to much with it. He's ace for KT, but what does that say? In the two pressure situations he's been in for KT, he hasn't pulled through (WL Playoffs).

Mind won GOMS3 MSL and then... died. Failed to qualify for the most recent round of Star Leagues, the round before that he did poorly. In fact, Mind hasn't made an MSL since Arena MSL (which he was seeded into) way back last summer.

Granted, Flash seems more attractive a player than Mind, but neither is really the "Post-NaDa" at this point, and I doubt either will be.


Mind was in the Incruit OSL Ro8 where he lost to fantasy.
Free Palestine
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
July 10 2009 19:16 GMT
#56
lol this thread around 07? that was when flash was consider a super chesser by people because he

very good manage 2 carefully thought out build to knock bisu out of daum
Trust 神教教主 FlaSh | Believe 火心 EffOrt
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
July 10 2009 19:17 GMT
#57
haha I was also part of the Mind fan club :D

though I liked flash too I never thought he'd be this good.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
July 10 2009 19:23 GMT
#58
On July 11 2009 04:16 AlwaysGG wrote:
lol this thread around 07? that was when flash was consider a super chesser by people because he

very good manage 2 carefully thought out build to knock bisu out of daum

ahh the refinery cheese on Monty Hall will forever be in my mind
<3
cw)minsean(ru
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17078 Posts
July 10 2009 19:49 GMT
#59
Hahaha this thread's a comedy goldmine
Moderator
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
July 10 2009 20:09 GMT
#60
In order for either player to become Post-NaDa they must become much more dominant. You could make a case for Flash because he has been, and is, quite dominant. BUT he is accompanied by Bisu and Jaedong, which makes none of them more dominant than the other really.

Nada was bonjwa, meaning he ripped EVERYONE (except oov lol) a new one, for a long period of time.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
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