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Gippy
Profile Joined March 2024
41 Posts
April 11 2024 13:17 GMT
#41
I started that one. You only need to see the past few ASLs for how the Queen sees no play at all. There are streamed games where players try them out as a gimmick, but they're not seen in serious offline competitive play, and that's what we should be focusing on. I plan to overhaul the other rarely-seen units in this manner, too. The Scout did have its day of glory in ASL12, though!
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1628 Posts
April 11 2024 13:45 GMT
#42
On April 11 2024 22:17 Gippy wrote:
I started that one. You only need to see the past few ASLs for how the Queen sees no play at all. There are streamed games where players try them out as a gimmick, but they're not seen in serious offline competitive play, and that's what we should be focusing on. I plan to overhaul the other rarely-seen units in this manner, too. The Scout did have its day of glory in ASL12, though!


More like 5 minutes of fail lel
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4298 Posts
April 11 2024 15:05 GMT
#43
On April 04 2024 04:57 enuaj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2024 22:09 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
On April 03 2024 19:59 enuaj wrote:
I am mainly active on the SC2 wiki, but I want to chime in.
+ Show Spoiler +

We use the RecentChanges page to see recent edits: (Wiki)Special:RecentChanges.
This is where we usually catch edits that need to be checked.

After some time, the unchecked edits can get out of the list. Then, the pages that need to be checked appear in the page you linked: endingChanges. on Liquipedia" target="_blank" href="https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/SpecialendingChanges.">(Wiki)SpecialendingChanges. Unfortunately, it is visited much less often, and edits can go weeks or months without being checked. As Jealous said, not all editors are comfortable accepting changes.

The fact that it took so long to review these pages is a shame, but hopefully things will get better from now on. For reviews, we need editors that understand how Liquipedia works. The current system of auto-promoting to editor after a given set of time and number of edits (and other parameters) is maybe not the best, but at least it means editors have had time to get some experience about the dos and don'ts.

For example, the changes to the (Wiki)Bugs page looked good, but had to be rejected because of license issues. This is why we cannot "just" give editor status to active BW people.


On April 03 2024 17:16 iopq wrote:
This, when I get bad info and have to dig into pending edits, or can't see my own correct info being reflected it discourages me from contributing

You made one edit to the article (Wiki)12 Pool (vs. Zerg) on 24 March 2017 and it was reviewed within 24 hours.
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=12 Pool (vs. Zerg)&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters[]=review&wpfilters[]=patrol&wpfilters[]=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist


Now it's 1 person comfortable accepting or rejecting pending edits. Call me crazy I think we can do better.

I am also indeed questioning the dos and don'ts.

P.S. no way to get you more into BW?

Your post actually got me to make a few edits on the BW wiki! I'll try checking it regularly in the future.

For info, these are the stats for edits in the last 30 days:
https://liquipedia.net/statistics/?view=activeusers&wikis[]=starcraft
If we ignore the 3 bots, that's 16 people who have made at least 1 edit in the last 30 days. All the people with silver, gold or diamond coins are probably editors.

That's a nice set of data that I didn't know existed.. Thx
Gippy
Profile Joined March 2024
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-12 12:13:22
April 12 2024 12:11 GMT
#44
Huh, what happened to (Wiki)Template:Upgrade? Looks worse now without the background color.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1628 Posts
April 13 2024 15:24 GMT
#45
I updated the original post again in light of this:

New Starcraft editors: the biggest and most obvious flaw in liquipedia.net/starcraft is the lack of Korean Daily Proleagues records, I have too much to do, so it is very necessary for more editors to participate.
Daily Proleagues Information source:
https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/605325-megathread-daily-proleagues?page=56
https://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=pro_league

The previous record of this event, thank you FakeFin!
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Daily_Proleague/Major_Proleague/2023-07-10
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
enuaj
Profile Joined May 2017
429 Posts
April 15 2024 00:09 GMT
#46
On April 12 2024 21:11 Gippy wrote:
Huh, what happened to (Wiki)Template:Upgrade? Looks worse now without the background color.

I edited the template to be compatible with dark mode.
When logged in, it had a background color, but I forgot to check when not logged in.
I edited the template again and hopefully it's better.

On April 14 2024 00:24 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
I updated the original post again in light of this:

New Starcraft editors: the biggest and most obvious flaw in liquipedia.net/starcraft is the lack of Korean Daily Proleagues records, I have too much to do, so it is very necessary for more editors to participate.
Daily Proleagues Information source:
https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/605325-megathread-daily-proleagues?page=56
https://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=pro_league

The previous record of this event, thank you FakeFin!
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Daily_Proleague/Major_Proleague/2023-07-10

I made a userscript (it works with extensions like Violentmonkey) that adds buttons for match result posts in https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/605325-megathread-daily-proleagues. If you click on the button, you can copy the wikitext for Liquipedia to the clipboard.
It's not perfect, and it may break with certain posts, but for the amount of days to cover, I thought it would be good to automate part of it.
https://enuaj.eu.pythonanywhere.com/static/tlnet_daily_proleagues_to_lp.user.js

It only parses the data from the TL.net posts, so the prize pool info, and eloboard links are not included.
Gippy
Profile Joined March 2024
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-05 11:09:43
May 05 2024 11:09 GMT
#47
Fixed up all Protoss air units + (Wiki)Stargate, which had actually suggested mass Scouts as an endgame strategy for years. I'll try to do all of the Protoss units and buildings before moving on to another race, but I did already fix up a few other low-hanging fruit units such as (Wiki)Firebat and (Wiki)Queen.
enuaj
Profile Joined May 2017
429 Posts
July 21 2024 19:44 GMT
#48
On April 14 2024 00:24 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
I updated the original post again in light of this:

New Starcraft editors: the biggest and most obvious flaw in liquipedia.net/starcraft is the lack of Korean Daily Proleagues records, I have too much to do, so it is very necessary for more editors to participate.
Daily Proleagues Information source:
https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/605325-megathread-daily-proleagues?page=56
https://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=pro_league

The previous record of this event, thank you FakeFin!
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Daily_Proleague/Major_Proleague/2023-07-10

We went from 149 Daily Proleague tournament pages on Liquipedia to 648 (for a total of more than $3.8 million in prizes): (Wiki)Daily Proleagues

In addition to Major Proleague, K-League, K2-League, J-League and H-League tournaments were added.
2024 is pretty well covered. The remaining work is mostly adding older tournaments that are not covered in the TL.net thread, only on eloboard.

Huge thanks to TMNT for their work in the TL.net thread that has been very helpful. Eloboard is also very helpful, even though I have to double check their results because of small mistakes.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1628 Posts
July 24 2024 09:47 GMT
#49
On July 22 2024 04:44 enuaj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2024 00:24 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
I updated the original post again in light of this:

New Starcraft editors: the biggest and most obvious flaw in liquipedia.net/starcraft is the lack of Korean Daily Proleagues records, I have too much to do, so it is very necessary for more editors to participate.
Daily Proleagues Information source:
https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/605325-megathread-daily-proleagues?page=56
https://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=pro_league

The previous record of this event, thank you FakeFin!
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Daily_Proleague/Major_Proleague/2023-07-10

We went from 149 Daily Proleague tournament pages on Liquipedia to 648 (for a total of more than $3.8 million in prizes): (Wiki)Daily Proleagues

In addition to Major Proleague, K-League, K2-League, J-League and H-League tournaments were added.
2024 is pretty well covered. The remaining work is mostly adding older tournaments that are not covered in the TL.net thread, only on eloboard.

Huge thanks to TMNT for their work in the TL.net thread that has been very helpful. Eloboard is also very helpful, even though I have to double check their results because of small mistakes.


Wow! That is amazing! 334.90% increase! Thank you for the information and your contributions enuaj, TMNT, Gippy and anyone else involved! <3 <3 <3
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
Gippy
Profile Joined March 2024
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-01 16:19:46
February 01 2026 16:18 GMT
#50
Updated every single unit page with the proper unit speeds as shown here, in which the values were taken directly from the BW API. Made a specific note in the Shuttle page that it is still slightly slower than some other air units. Hopefully the changes get approved quickly.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1628 Posts
February 02 2026 07:07 GMT
#51
On February 02 2026 01:18 Gippy wrote:
Updated every single unit page with the proper unit speeds as shown here, in which the values were taken directly from the BW API. Made a specific note in the Shuttle page that it is still slightly slower than some other air units. Hopefully the changes get approved quickly.


Nice! You can always go to the Liquipedia discord to talk to mods directly btw: https://discord.com/invite/liquipedia
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
jindi5
Profile Joined December 2021
China194 Posts
February 02 2026 12:02 GMT
#52
I'm quite surprised that this problem exists. I don't know what the basis was for the speed figure you changed earlier? Why wasn't it consistent with what you said before?
My English is not very good. I need more people to unanimously agree on this issue.

On February 02 2026 01:18 Gippy wrote:
Updated every single unit page with the proper unit speeds as shown here, in which the values were taken directly from the BW API. Made a specific note in the Shuttle page that it is still slightly slower than some other air units. Hopefully the changes get approved quickly.

iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1187 Posts
February 05 2026 08:09 GMT
#53
On April 11 2024 22:17 Gippy wrote:
I started that one. You only need to see the past few ASLs for how the Queen sees no play at all. There are streamed games where players try them out as a gimmick, but they're not seen in serious offline competitive play, and that's what we should be focusing on. I plan to overhaul the other rarely-seen units in this manner, too. The Scout did have its day of glory in ASL12, though!


They are frequently used as a counter to mech, it's just Terran doesn't need to go mech if they don't want to
Gippy
Profile Joined March 2024
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-09 00:11:20
February 09 2026 00:10 GMT
#54
On February 02 2026 21:02 jindi5 wrote:
I'm quite surprised that this problem exists. I don't know what the basis was for the speed figure you changed earlier? Why wasn't it consistent with what you said before?
My English is not very good. I need more people to unanimously agree on this issue.


You can look at page history for the old values. Every unit had some strange speed value which resolved to three decimal places. For example, the marine and zealot were listed at 2.976 speed and that was listed for many years. I honestly don't know where those numbers came from.

Anyway, BWAPI lists the correct values. The marine and zealot have 4.00 speed, and that is a lot more intuitive than 2.976.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3473 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-09 05:23:17
February 09 2026 05:22 GMT
#55
On February 09 2026 09:10 Gippy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2026 21:02 jindi5 wrote:
I'm quite surprised that this problem exists. I don't know what the basis was for the speed figure you changed earlier? Why wasn't it consistent with what you said before?
My English is not very good. I need more people to unanimously agree on this issue.


You can look at page history for the old values. Every unit had some strange speed value which resolved to three decimal places. For example, the marine and zealot were listed at 2.976 speed and that was listed for many years. I honestly don't know where those numbers came from.

Anyway, BWAPI lists the correct values. The marine and zealot have 4.00 speed, and that is a lot more intuitive than 2.976.


I havent done my research at all, just writing my thoughts out here. Perhaps it’s scaling from Fastest Speed game settings?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4298 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-12 14:37:09
February 12 2026 14:35 GMT
#56
(Wiki)ASL just noticed that Season 13 final participants and final score changed to TBD for some reason.. idk how to change it back. But if anyone does, please fix.

Thanks.
enuaj
Profile Joined May 2017
429 Posts
February 12 2026 14:39 GMT
#57
On February 12 2026 23:35 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
(Wiki)ASL just noticed that Season 13 final participants and final score changed to TBD for some reason.. idk how to change it back. But if anyone does, please fix.

Thanks.

Fixed. The page needed a purge.
jindi5
Profile Joined December 2021
China194 Posts
February 19 2026 11:54 GMT
#58
On February 09 2026 09:10 Gippy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2026 21:02 jindi5 wrote:
I'm quite surprised that this problem exists. I don't know what the basis was for the speed figure you changed earlier? Why wasn't it consistent with what you said before?
My English is not very good. I need more people to unanimously agree on this issue.


You can look at page history for the old values. Every unit had some strange speed value which resolved to three decimal places. For example, the marine and zealot were listed at 2.976 speed and that was listed for many years. I honestly don't know where those numbers came from.

Anyway, BWAPI lists the correct values. The marine and zealot have 4.00 speed, and that is a lot more intuitive than 2.976.


Since no one else opposed, I have decided to agree to review all your revisions.
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