• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:00
CEST 00:00
KST 07:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou19Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four3BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET7Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)81
StarCraft 2
General
The New Patch Killed Mech! Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Season 3 Qualifier Links and Dates $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 INu's Battles #13 - ByuN vs Zoun
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
Is there anyway to get a private coach? SnOw's Awful Building Placements vs barracks BW General Discussion BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 300$ 3D!Community Brood War Super Cup #4 Azhi's Colosseum - Anonymous Tournament
Strategy
[I] TvP Marine Usage Roaring Currents ASL final Current Meta BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1630 users

ASL Season 17 announced + qualifier info - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
98 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
prion_
Profile Joined September 2022
78 Posts
January 25 2024 16:51 GMT
#21
On January 25 2024 23:48 Comedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2024 23:02 Branch.AUT wrote:
On January 25 2024 04:12 outscar wrote:
No sign of FlaSh still? Not good.

I hope he stays away.
A) because the tournament is no fun, when you know whos going to win.
B) people who use their influence to advertise crypto pump+dump scams, don't deserve to have public spotlight.


the ultimate god gamer having to quit this game because of a very stupid mistake, over a 20 year legacy of positive behaviour would just be a massive loss to the scene.

Let him stay away a year or two and then return.



He could definitely come back, he'd just have to deal with people yelling at him for a bit and apologizing like Bisu.
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
January 25 2024 19:59 GMT
#22
On January 26 2024 01:51 prion_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2024 23:48 Comedy wrote:
On January 25 2024 23:02 Branch.AUT wrote:
On January 25 2024 04:12 outscar wrote:
No sign of FlaSh still? Not good.

I hope he stays away.
A) because the tournament is no fun, when you know whos going to win.
B) people who use their influence to advertise crypto pump+dump scams, don't deserve to have public spotlight.


the ultimate god gamer having to quit this game because of a very stupid mistake, over a 20 year legacy of positive behaviour would just be a massive loss to the scene.

Let him stay away a year or two and then return.



He could definitely come back, he'd just have to deal with people yelling at him for a bit and apologizing like Bisu.

Choices matter. In real life, just like in starcraft. You can play perfectly for 20 minutes, and then still get rolled if your recall defense isn't on point.
20 years of good behaviour (half of which spent on a really very short kespa leash) doesn't matter, if you turn out to be a money grubbing bizxh.
He chose to be a part of it.
Now hes taking the consequences like a man.
I respect flash for this, as long as he stays away.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States709 Posts
January 25 2024 21:55 GMT
#23
On January 26 2024 04:59 Branch.AUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2024 01:51 prion_ wrote:
On January 25 2024 23:48 Comedy wrote:
On January 25 2024 23:02 Branch.AUT wrote:
On January 25 2024 04:12 outscar wrote:
No sign of FlaSh still? Not good.

I hope he stays away.
A) because the tournament is no fun, when you know whos going to win.
B) people who use their influence to advertise crypto pump+dump scams, don't deserve to have public spotlight.


the ultimate god gamer having to quit this game because of a very stupid mistake, over a 20 year legacy of positive behaviour would just be a massive loss to the scene.

Let him stay away a year or two and then return.



He could definitely come back, he'd just have to deal with people yelling at him for a bit and apologizing like Bisu.

Choices matter. In real life, just like in starcraft. You can play perfectly for 20 minutes, and then still get rolled if your recall defense isn't on point.
20 years of good behaviour (half of which spent on a really very short kespa leash) doesn't matter, if you turn out to be a money grubbing bizxh.
He chose to be a part of it.
Now hes taking the consequences like a man.
I respect flash for this, as long as he stays away.


The thing is, cryptocurrency is pretty fundamentally a scheme people use to get rich quick - including the people who invest in it. If they then get mad because they didn't get rich, but instead made someone else rich... QQ for me and I'll drink some tears.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
orangeshines
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom202 Posts
January 26 2024 08:15 GMT
#24
Wait what did Flash do? Something bad how did I miss this? Do you have any links?
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria487 Posts
January 26 2024 10:50 GMT
#25
On January 26 2024 17:15 orangeshines wrote:
Wait what did Flash do? Something bad how did I miss this? Do you have any links?


Forum search is your friend, here is all the info you will probably need FlaSh's Crypto Scandal TL thread
music is the best thing in the world
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria487 Posts
January 26 2024 10:54 GMT
#26
On January 26 2024 19:50 BulgarianToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2024 17:15 orangeshines wrote:
Wait what did Flash do? Something bad how did I miss this? Do you have any links?


Forum search is your friend, here is all the info you will probably need FlaSh's Crypto Scandal TL thread


PS additional info and update on the situation The uncertainty behind FlaSh's Return; In-depth
music is the best thing in the world
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands993 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-26 13:06:59
January 26 2024 12:31 GMT
#27
On January 25 2024 19:43 ImbaTosS wrote:
I'll look forward to this!

It confuses me how people still get hyped for Bisu. To me he looks totally out of ideas and like he belongs in RO16, and not further.

In online play he is second to Snow and Mini. Sometimes on Par for short periods of time. If Bisu can bring his online peaks to offline he has a legitimate chance. I feel like he stopped capitalizing on good opportunities in offline.

On that same note. If SnOw can bring his online form he again is the favorite. But past events have shown he can rarely bring that form to ASL.

Snow is in fact so good in online that he has the current record for highest ELO rating since they started tracking in remastered Era. For the month of January he has 87W/23L vs top pros.

http://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=rank_list
JDON MY SOUL!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2957 Posts
January 26 2024 12:54 GMT
#28
Bisu stopped caring a while ago. The last time he actually tried hard was the season he came back from the crypto scandal and got 3rd. Since then he and ironically, Soulkey, are the pros with the least games played. Regularly taking 1-2 month breaks. Even hinted a couple of times that he wouldn't play ASL. Don't think he will do anything this season (if he plays).
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6719 Posts
January 26 2024 16:49 GMT
#29
I legit think Snow could have won 3 ASLs by now with those skills. But sometimes skill is not enough.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2957 Posts
January 26 2024 16:56 GMT
#30
Actually he wasn't this good a player when he reached the finals in season 5 and 8. Funny that since then, he's become much stronger but hasn't gone past Ro8.
Game[GTB]
Profile Joined November 2020
Canada47 Posts
January 26 2024 22:02 GMT
#31
Flash is so yesterday (5 years ago).. can you all move on to someone else please?
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China183 Posts
January 27 2024 18:01 GMT
#32
On January 27 2024 07:02 Game[GTB] wrote:
Flash is so yesterday (5 years ago).. can you all move on to someone else please?

Or half of yesterday (2.5 years)
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
January 30 2024 06:30 GMT
#33
On January 25 2024 23:02 Branch.AUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2024 04:12 outscar wrote:
No sign of FlaSh still? Not good.

I hope he stays away.
A) because the tournament is no fun, when you know whos going to win.
B) people who use their influence to advertise crypto pump+dump scams, don't deserve to have public spotlight.


Tournament is no fun either when the final boss isn't there to raise the standard of play.

I'm of the opinion that there are still plenty of people who want to watch him play, and a great way to repent is to dedicate himself to pleasing his remaining fanbase by playing BW instead of hiding forever. I imagine that's what JD would do, considering that's what he's doing right now.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
January 30 2024 08:46 GMT
#34
firebathero will qualify and crush everyone with a manner CC on each game.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States709 Posts
January 31 2024 00:48 GMT
#35
On January 25 2024 23:48 Comedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2024 23:02 Branch.AUT wrote:
On January 25 2024 04:12 outscar wrote:
No sign of FlaSh still? Not good.

I hope he stays away.
A) because the tournament is no fun, when you know whos going to win.
B) people who use their influence to advertise crypto pump+dump scams, don't deserve to have public spotlight.


the ultimate god gamer having to quit this game because of a very stupid mistake, over a 20 year legacy of positive behaviour would just be a massive loss to the scene.

Let him stay away a year or two and then return.


I don't need to wait. God Gamer is above reproach.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey560 Posts
January 31 2024 01:50 GMT
#36
Have you watched the wildcard games? Two of my favourite players from last season were playing each other. I hope they make it to the finals.
Turrican
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66355 Posts
January 31 2024 03:35 GMT
#37
man please get rid of neo dark origin lol
POGGERS
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey744 Posts
January 31 2024 08:11 GMT
#38
On January 31 2024 12:35 konadora wrote:
man please get rid of neo dark origin lol

Why?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4220 Posts
January 31 2024 13:11 GMT
#39
On January 31 2024 12:35 konadora wrote:
man please get rid of neo dark origin lol

seriously though.. out of all the maps they could have used again they picked the most boring one.. bizarre.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
January 31 2024 13:30 GMT
#40
On January 27 2024 01:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
I legit think Snow could have won 3 ASLs by now with those skills. But sometimes skill is not enough.

If he can manage to dodge Z rivals he is a strong contender. But a Starleague is a completely different beast compared to Proleague Team play.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 13h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 121
Codebar 61
ROOTCatZ 58
Livibee 56
StarCraft: Brood War
EffOrt 387
UpATreeSC 102
Backho 100
Dewaltoss 66
Free 50
Artosis 9
NaDa 6
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K586
Super Smash Bros
PPMD105
Liquid`Ken49
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu460
Other Games
Grubby4918
FrodaN1881
fl0m701
shahzam591
Skadoodle268
C9.Mang0196
Maynarde88
Trikslyr35
ViBE32
Mew2King28
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL213
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 73
• davetesta25
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2226
League of Legends
• Doublelift2466
Other Games
• imaqtpie1508
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
13h
Online Event
18h
RSL Revival
1d 4h
RSL Revival
1d 12h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 13h
OSC
1d 17h
SKillous vs goblin
Spirit vs GgMaChine
ByuN vs MaxPax
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.