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mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey639 Posts
February 05 2024 12:45 GMT
#61
On February 05 2024 19:04 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2024 15:55 iRkSupperman wrote:
Zero lost to BBS and a 1base 2 rax academy.. Not Zealots lol

Guy above literally making stuff up


Maybe they meant the first qualifier against Shuttle? I have not watched those but it sounds plausible that Shuttle won with early zealots...

I watched Mini straight up cheese him with zealots in the coming months leading up to ASL. It was a wild guess that would be the culprit.
Turrican
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-05 15:00:42
February 05 2024 15:00 GMT
#62
On February 05 2024 19:04 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2024 15:55 iRkSupperman wrote:
Zero lost to BBS and a 1base 2 rax academy.. Not Zealots lol

Guy above literally making stuff up


Maybe they meant the first qualifier against Shuttle? I have not watched those but it sounds plausible that Shuttle won with early zealots...


Shuttle won Game 1 with a cannon rush plus zealots and like 3 probes on Dark Origin.

The other game Shuttle won was Game 3 on Retro, Queen got into a solid 4 base and was turtled up with sunken, lurker, hydra while denying shuttle's 3rd and I thought the game was over in Queens favor but shuttle somehow plowed through what I thought was an impenetrable natural to take the game.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3102 Posts
February 13 2024 13:49 GMT
#63
Group stage:

[image loading]


Except for group A, upsets can happen in pretty much all the other groups.

First games to be played on Radeon aka the new Vermeer.
Winners and losers to be played on either Blitz Y, Citadel or Troy (each player bans 1)
Decider to be played on either Neo Dark Origin, Apocalypse or Retro (each player bans 1)
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova278 Posts
February 13 2024 16:57 GMT
#64
Group B and D is so hot
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-13 18:26:02
February 13 2024 18:24 GMT
#65
On February 13 2024 22:49 TMNT wrote:
Group stage:

[image loading]


Except for group A, upsets can happen in pretty much all the other groups.

First games to be played on Radeon aka the new Vermeer.
Winners and losers to be played on either Blitz Y, Citadel or Troy (each player bans 1)
Decider to be played on either Neo Dark Origin, Apocalypse or Retro (each player bans 1)


my hot take predictions.

Group A:
Light over zelot. bisu over sea. light over bisu. zelot over sea. zelot over bisu.

Group B:
Ssak over best. action over taenggu. ssak over action. best over taenggu. action over best.

Group C:
Hero over killer. Stork over Mind. Hero over stork. Mind over killer. Mind over stork.

Group D:
Jyj over ty. jd over shuttle. jd over jyj. shuttle over ty. jyj over shuttle.

Group E:
Royal over beast. rain over barracks. rain over royal. beast over barracks. royal over beast.

Group F:
speed over snow. shine over mong. speed over shine. snow over mong. snow over shine.
JDON MY SOUL!
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden531 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-13 18:47:03
February 13 2024 18:46 GMT
#66
Are Retro and Neo Dark Origin the most boring modern maps ever made?
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic937 Posts
February 13 2024 19:02 GMT
#67
Light + Bisu, Best + Action, Mind + Hero, JyJ + Shuttle, RoyaL + Rain, Snow + Shine.

GLHF
never too old for starcraft :)
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
February 13 2024 19:38 GMT
#68
Light Bisu
Best sSak
Hero Mind
JyJ JD
Royal Rain
Snow Mong
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
February 13 2024 22:20 GMT
#69
On February 14 2024 03:46 A.Alm wrote:
Are Retro and Neo Dark Origin the most boring modern maps ever made?

Retro, idk. NDO, definitely.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-13 22:21:21
February 13 2024 22:21 GMT
#70
Group D is so fking brutal, man.. what a shame. I want all of them to advance, ugh -.-
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada125 Posts
February 13 2024 23:04 GMT
#71
Light Bisu
Best Action
Hero Mind
JyJ Shuttle
Rain Royal
Snow Mong
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-14 00:35:05
February 14 2024 00:33 GMT
#72
Neo Dark Origin has produced really cool aggressive games though. Just the 5th base is SUPER difficult to secure. Retro has produced some really good big games too. But it has some real turtling zerg advantages going for it and a lot of overlord safe spots.
JDON MY SOUL!
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
February 14 2024 03:03 GMT
#73
Wheres the LB I need redemption from last season 😢
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1100 Posts
February 14 2024 12:17 GMT
#74
group E :O
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey639 Posts
February 14 2024 13:05 GMT
#75
ZeLoT in a group stage against a roster of 13 premier league tournament winners like 👀.
Turrican
NeedlerNoobRTS
Profile Joined February 2024
7 Posts
February 14 2024 13:52 GMT
#76
Coming back after a long time. I thought Soul Key and Flash were still active? Neither of them made it? Tier means who ranks the best within their group?
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2925 Posts
February 14 2024 14:25 GMT
#77
On February 14 2024 22:52 NeedlerNoobRTS wrote:
Coming back after a long time. I thought Soul Key and Flash were still active? Neither of them made it? Tier means who ranks the best within their group?


Flash didn't enter.
SoulKey is seeded into RO16, together with Mini, Rush & Sharp (last RO4 finishers).
You didn't ask, but Fantasy didn't enter either & Queen/ZerO didn't make it through the qualifiers.
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey639 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-14 14:30:16
February 14 2024 14:28 GMT
#78
I think last ASL was a rerun of the previous ASL 15. People had high aspirations for the previous ASL winner who couldn't even make it out of the group stages. Winning strategy is about besting the last winner's playstyle in my opinion. I think Soul Key would have it pretty rough himself since being a champion, too. Everybody would have memorised his games.
This season I'm for Mini Sharp Action old school players.
Turrican
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2925 Posts
February 14 2024 14:37 GMT
#79
On February 14 2024 23:28 mtcn77 wrote:
I think last ASL was a rerun of the previous ASL 15. People had high aspirations for the previous ASL winner who couldn't even make it out of the group stages. Winning strategy is about besting the last winner's playstyle in my opinion. I think Soul Key would have it pretty rough himself since being a champion, too. Everybody would have memorised his games.
This season I'm for Mini Sharp Action old school players.


Perfect conditions for SnOw this season. If he can't make it out of his group he probably should just stick to online play only lol.

Hope JD can make it out of his group - he's been working so hard & on fire lately.. perfect time to display those new nDie JD24 skills!
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey639 Posts
February 14 2024 15:02 GMT
#80
On February 14 2024 23:37 Smorrie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2024 23:28 mtcn77 wrote:
I think last ASL was a rerun of the previous ASL 15. People had high aspirations for the previous ASL winner who couldn't even make it out of the group stages. Winning strategy is about besting the last winner's playstyle in my opinion. I think Soul Key would have it pretty rough himself since being a champion, too. Everybody would have memorised his games.
This season I'm for Mini Sharp Action old school players.


Perfect conditions for SnOw this season. If he can't make it out of his group he probably should just stick to online play only lol.

Hope JD can make it out of his group - he's been working so hard & on fire lately.. perfect time to display those new nDie JD24 skills!

Let's hope JD the poet can orchestrate one more opus magnum!
Turrican
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