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ASL13 Starts Feb 8th, Qualifiers Jan 22/23 - Page 2

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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
January 14 2022 01:57 GMT
#21
Are they doing ACS again?
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3117 Posts
January 14 2022 02:02 GMT
#22
Yes, Artosis uploaded a video not long ago about ACS.
Artosis loves Starcraft
psyCrowe
Profile Joined December 2007
Scotland195 Posts
January 14 2022 10:11 GMT
#23
These maps all look pretty interesting, looking forward to the games
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 14 2022 11:55 GMT
#24
On January 14 2022 10:57 QOGQOG wrote:
Are they doing ACS again?


yes, finals this sunday
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4200 Posts
January 17 2022 19:11 GMT
#25
are players trying out these new maps yet? maybe somebody has info/stream?
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
[JXSA].Zergling
Profile Joined July 2020
China186 Posts
January 18 2022 02:01 GMT
#26
Who are the contestants and who are not?
omahahowitzer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States98 Posts
January 18 2022 06:19 GMT
#27
On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote:
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.


Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2781 Posts
January 18 2022 08:31 GMT
#28
On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote:
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.


Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster

That's not Best "recently" (as in he has improved/been in top form recently).

He has always been like that, playing like a god today then choking hard the next. This time last year he was regularly crushing Flash.

One thing is for sure, he's more likely to play like a god when sitting in his chair at home rather than in the studio.
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
January 18 2022 08:51 GMT
#29
Any news on Bisu?
Oppa feeding style
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2781 Posts
January 18 2022 09:04 GMT
#30
No but looks like Rain may join this ASL qualifier.
Based on his games vs other top pros recently, he's comfortably a top 16 player. And that's without serious practice. Such a shame him, Last and Larva all retired. They're not even old compared to other currently active players.
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 11:39:59
January 18 2022 11:36 GMT
#31
Yeah Rain today plays vs Terran player

vs Sorry no chances for Sorry, Rain was POWERFUL,
now play vs Mong, same no chances for Mong

Rain without any serious practice look like member minimum 1/8 ASL 13
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bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
January 18 2022 11:53 GMT
#32
Damnn Rain look so good its looking scary! Cant wait for qualifications to see who will participate!
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey741 Posts
January 18 2022 19:34 GMT
#33
Any vods ?
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8114 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 04:52:59
January 19 2022 04:51 GMT
#34
On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote:
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.


Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster


In terms of "active players who haven't won a tournament" it's hard to find a more qualified pair than snow and best. Both have been around the top of Protoss for sooo long but never managed to win a ASL/OSL/MSL/KSL. They can play amazing in offline low-stakes matches like Ultimate Battle, KCM, or ASTL. But when it's a high-stakes 1v1 tournament that rewards nerves and mind-games as well as mechanics they fail time and time again.

Mini suffered the same way for years but sometime in 2021 figured out how to get over his nerves and not get tilted after a lose, and then in the last ASL came with much better prep than any of his opponents and finally got his trophy. That can still happen for Best and Snow and I hope it does but something needs to change in how they play in ASL. Or they can just do what Light did in KSL4 and elevate their core mechanics to such a higher degree above the competition that they can't lose but that seems even harder haha.
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 06:47:49
January 19 2022 05:15 GMT
#35
On January 19 2022 13:51 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote:
On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote:
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.


Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster


In terms of "active players who haven't won a tournament" it's hard to find a more qualified pair than snow and best. Both have been around the top of Protoss for sooo long but never managed to win a ASL/OSL/MSL/KSL. They can play amazing in offline low-stakes matches like Ultimate Battle, KCM, or ASTL. But when it's a high-stakes 1v1 tournament that rewards nerves and mind-games as well as mechanics they fail time and time again.

Mini suffered the same way for years but sometime in 2021 figured out how to get over his nerves and not get tilted after a lose, and then in the last ASL came with much better prep than any of his opponents and finally got his trophy. That can still happen for Best and Snow and I hope it does but something needs to change in how they play in ASL. Or they can just do what Light did in KSL4 and elevate their core mechanics to such a higher degree above the competition that they can't lose but that seems even harder haha.

I don't know you can really lump Snow together with Best. Where Best just seems hard stuck at the Round of 8, Snow has made the finals twice. Unfortunately, hitting peak Rain and peak Flash meant he lost pretty bad both times. Still, I'd love to see either of them take it this season.
omahahowitzer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States98 Posts
January 19 2022 06:52 GMT
#36
On January 19 2022 13:51 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 15:19 omahahowitzer wrote:
On January 13 2022 19:34 HOLYBATS wrote:
Snow and Best are playing like old man. Mini is the sole tier 1 toss player.


Have you seen Best recently? He beats Soma and Royal 7-2 in last two Ultimate battles. He is playing like a monster


In terms of "active players who haven't won a tournament" it's hard to find a more qualified pair than snow and best. Both have been around the top of Protoss for sooo long but never managed to win a ASL/OSL/MSL/KSL. They can play amazing in offline low-stakes matches like Ultimate Battle, KCM, or ASTL. But when it's a high-stakes 1v1 tournament that rewards nerves and mind-games as well as mechanics they fail time and time again.

Mini suffered the same way for years but sometime in 2021 figured out how to get over his nerves and not get tilted after a lose, and then in the last ASL came with much better prep than any of his opponents and finally got his trophy. That can still happen for Best and Snow and I hope it does but something needs to change in how they play in ASL. Or they can just do what Light did in KSL4 and elevate their core mechanics to such a higher degree above the competition that they can't lose but that seems even harder haha.


ASL is definitely the highest stakes in terms of prestige but these low stakes streamer matches can even be higher prize money than top 8/top 4 ASL (e.g. Soulkey dropping out of ASL11 since stream matches were more profitable and he was in debt). Best hasn't performed well in ASL recently but I feel like there is an overemphasis on ASL results for casual fans. Hope Best and Snow perform well in ASL, but no one should discount their skill even if they don't.
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
January 19 2022 07:39 GMT
#37
Rain is training yesterday
Jaedong is training last weeks
Sea training today TvT vs Shinee


Slogan ASL13 = Old School Come Back?

By the way - why Shinee (T) does not qualify on ASL?? not allowed or??
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Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
43 Posts
January 19 2022 14:37 GMT
#38
How is Jeadong doing with his preparation for asl qual ?
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2781 Posts
January 19 2022 15:23 GMT
#39
There's a clear top 10 in the Korean scene these days, that means you don't really have a clear favorite when any of these guys face each other:
T: Rush Light Royal
P: Best Mini Snow
Z: Queen Soma Hero Soulkey

After that the level drops off a bit with the likes of JYJ, Sharp, Action, Effort, and maybe Shuttle (depending on how serious he is, I feel). Jaedong is doing good, he probably belongs to this group and will qualify easily. So is Rain. But I feel their chances will be better if they don't have to play ZvT and PvZ.
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
January 19 2022 17:43 GMT
#40
The Rain FapFest is revving up
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