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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 30 2007 13:20 GMT
#221
ZOMGS excuses!!!! =D

I would say I play worse when my friends are around, but I suck overall anyways ^_^ actually I'm not terrible, but when friends are over, I don't play real games, just mess around with computers anyway, so I don't really know.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 30 2007 13:37 GMT
#222
On July 30 2007 15:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
My computer is set up at my friends house. He has 3 cats that live in the basement and its the "Party" house so usually there are anywhere from 2 - 10 friends sitting around drinking and asking me to get the fuck off the computer. This place is just really hard to concentrate at + I work/workout/hang out with friends more during the summer so I play bw alot less. This all formulates to a very inconsistent gameplay environment. Sometimes its really calm here and I can play as best I can with the practice I have and other times its really hard for me to remember to hit burrow on my lurkers >_<

Glad you asked. If I mention it in any other fashion its perceived as an "exscuse" and I get flamed for being a sore loser or w/e. This is merely my reality. I am alot better (i feel) during the school year. More practice / shut away in my room where its just me and my tunes. I can still squeek out some gg's here but like I said there are just so many factors adding to the improbability of it.


yeah i just wondered because sometimes you play really well and then sometimes i gotta wonder what the hell you're doing so

i figured there would be something like that but sometimes its just the guy
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
July 30 2007 14:24 GMT
#223
I can't play with friends around at all :/ They ask too many questions, and I find it kinda awkward sitting there with my headphones on so it always end up with me having headphones off. Semi-playing while talking to them. Instant lose !
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Broken.Mind
Profile Joined December 2005
United States364 Posts
July 31 2007 02:30 GMT
#224
Odin[fou] T/P 8
U N D E R T H E I N F L U E N C E
Broken.Mind
Profile Joined December 2005
United States364 Posts
July 31 2007 02:32 GMT
#225
On July 29 2007 20:41 CLOAK-X17 wrote:
ROFL x_woof_x ur sad come to east and i'll 3-0 and i am #1 TOSS IN USA go on GG.net to see rep of me vs strelok


idiot... your not half as good as you make yourself to be... don't make me get the chains nigga .
U N D E R T H E I N F L U E N C E
BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
July 31 2007 03:58 GMT
#226
A little late but..

SUGO GOT OWNED.

Here's my list for fun..

Protoss: Testie, Nony, G5, Dino, Oldy, JF
Terran: Idra, Skew, Assem, Artosis
Zerg: Timothy, Day, Incontrol, Crayon

PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
August 02 2007 07:14 GMT
#227
post 2nd tier North Americans now, basically everyone who is decent, but wasn't mentioned in the top NA list.
If anyone orders any merlot Im leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking merlot.
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
August 02 2007 07:17 GMT
#228
I am king of 2nd tier.
Broom
5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
August 02 2007 07:24 GMT
#229
ON_FIER - 4
I live in perpetual fear of terrorists and studio gangsters
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 02 2007 07:41 GMT
#230
usa
machine
lzgamer
chosen
repent
louder
future
city
nesh
failsafe
someone else i'm sure i'm forgetting

canada
b_saint
freaky
stalife
tt1
target
uh... dunno who else.
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-02 10:10:07
August 02 2007 10:09 GMT
#231
On August 02 2007 16:41 Xeris wrote:
usa
machine
lzgamer
chosen
repent
louder
future
city
nesh
failsafe
someone else i'm sure i'm forgetting

canada
b_saint
freaky
stalife
tt1
target
uh... dunno who else.


future is nowhere as good as chosen/lz/failsafe/etc.. :o
buut other than that good list of people who might not have been mentioned yet
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 02 2007 10:33 GMT
#232
well Future has been practicing quite a bit in secret, and let's not forget aside from LzGamer ... Future actually HAS more accomplishments of any of the other players listed.

He may not get good stats on ladders, but he has a knack for winning when it counts.
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lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-06 03:27:27
August 02 2007 10:53 GMT
#233
Tier 1

USA

IdrA - 9, his tvp/tvz is pure amazement, however vs progamers I don't think he would succeed due to his style of play. However his TvZ can/would beat progamers.

Nony - 7, his PvT is ok, however it always involves Carriers, I don't think he would last long enough vs a progamer to get them though. However his 300 apm is also something shining

Skew - 8, granted his TvZ is good, I've seen that his tvt/tvp arent too great. Vs a Progamer his only hope is TvZ

LaStGosu - 8 , With his good multitask/macro, he has proven he could stand a chance. However vs Z He is bad, so vs progamers his only hope is ZvsP.

DAy[9] - 6, he doesn't take the game serious enough (leaving wcg vs nony because he didn't want to play?) If he took it serious / played enough, then maybe he could succeed vs a progamer with 30% chance of win.

Odin[fOu] - 9, This man has proven to have one of the best / the most ridiculous macro outside Korea. His TvP is so powerful along with his PvT. He has beaten several progamers before, and IMO has the best chance of beating one, as far as USA player go. If not, Him/IdrA/Assem are best hands down. However is TvZ(granted good) is what gives him a 9.

Artosis - 6, His TvT isnt too impresive, his TvP is turtle style, 1-1 move out, and his TvZ is something to not smile about. Granted he has thrown down several achievements, he is no where near ready to compete with progamers.

ChOseN[LiGhT] - 7, His ZvsP is really strong, his ZvT is decent, and I don't know about his ZvZ, however he is one of the few rising stars with little accomplishments, not good enough to take on a pro yet though.

Slog4[pG] - 8.5, His PvT is good, along with his good macro and apm ( 300 - 350 ), However this protoss isn't strong enough PvZ to compete at pro level. His PvP is also very strong.

Assem - 9, Due to his inactive play, Assem can not yet re-clench the best player in the USA, but his tvp/tvz/tvt are always going strong and usually a forced to be reckoned with. Granted Assem did bad in Korea, at least he made it, and that is something only about 1% of Foreigners can say. If he came back to progame, then obviously a 10.

G5 - 8, he has proven he can win, but Not yet ready for his korean dream.

ToT)Incontrol( - 8, Incontrol has shown pretty good games / results over the past. But sometimes his macro can lack. His ZvZ is quite strong, along with ZvsP. However his ZvT being his worst m/u would limit his play for korean pro scene (so many T's). With more practice he can more up higher.

Canada

Testie - 10, Testie has proven time and time again that he is the best foreigner. However even inactive he still holds true to his ability, and has proven that he CAN beat progamers. And even plays Random ( all 3 races ) better than most foreigners can their own.

GiYom - 10, If he were ever to come back, Foreigners would meet the new best foreigner.

Smuft - 8, He is very strong protoss and random, however he hasn't proven enough to clench a 9 or a 10.

Oldy - 8, He loses 50/50 to semi-pro koreans and gets slaughtered vs Pros. However his skill is not to go unnoticed.

TT1 - 8 , Granted he has had his "on-fire" streaks, it isn't enough to bump him past oldy or smuft. Also his ex-hacks doesn't help.

Schism[LiGhT] - 8 , This Terran is unknown fairly, and has yet to try to beat top foreigners from what I can tell. Only time will tell with his one.

Iefnjai - 9, One of the best canadians, proving that he can succeed vs top foreigners. Amazing PvT / PvZ.

XiaOzi - 8, Haven't seen too much from him lately. So I can't say/give him much.



That's about it. Only a few [light] members made it, since many of them only barely exceed B+. They aren't anywhere near ready to compete with top-foreigners or for that matter koreans.


Tier 2 ( all rating will be 1-10 for Tier 2 status, 10 being a possible tier 1)

USA

All Light Members- 8, Team Light is Tier 2 in itself.

b]NeO)Response[/b] - 9, This player has been playing for quite some time. Achieving B+'s / B's in ladders, only deservers him a spot in the Tier 2

Neo)Nesh - 10, This Terran has amazing macro/micro management, but I have not heard enough about him yet. Still very strong and quite possibly one of the best T's in USA

LzGamer - 9, This Zerg has had some accomplishments here and there, but nothing to fancy. Only time will tell where this Zerg goes.

SirTasteless9[media] - 8, His lack of self-esteem / pride in own play only hurts him. If he could finally start to begin to play better for victory / take himself more serious he could become better. However for now he is just a good protoss with known rep / best foreign caster alive.

Machine - 8, I've only heard good things about this player, but not enough. Can't really judge him.

Nal_CrayOn - 9, granted this Zerg is Korean, that does not make him a "non-usa player". This Zerg has shown time and time again the is able to compete with Tier 1 / 2 players.

Dino[S.O] - 10, IMO he is severely overestimated. But that does not make him bad. Great macro/micro and very strong PvT/PvP. Very deserving of Tier 2 / possibly 1. If he were to receive Tier 1 then he would get a 8.

City[fOu] - 9, This player was smashed around in wcg, however he does have amazing accomplishments towards the korean scene, which include 3-0'ing [ReD]NaDa through cheesey TvT play, and achieveing A- PGT.



Canada

All Light Members - 8, Team Light is tier 2 in itself.

JianG - 8, Granted he hasn't been too great past yr or two, Jiang still was very good at one point, don't give up on this protoss.


Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 02 2007 11:49 GMT
#234
crap i didnt make the SHADOW TERRAN rating of PRESSURIZED EXCELLENCE
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
August 02 2007 11:49 GMT
#235
On August 02 2007 20:49 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
crap i didnt make the SHADOW TERRAN rating of PRESSURIZED EXCELLENCE



completly forget T_T I did that in a sorta rush, i'll but you in.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
August 02 2007 12:48 GMT
#236
Odin[fOu] - 9, This man has proven to have one of the best / the most ridiculous macro outside Korea. His TvP is so powerful along with his PvT. He has beaten several progamers before, and IMO has the best chance of beating one, as far as USA player go. If not, Him/IdrA/Assem are best hands down. However is TvZ(granted good) is what gives him a 9

your crazy O_O
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
August 02 2007 12:55 GMT
#237
On August 02 2007 21:48 eXigent. wrote:
Odin[fOu] - 9, This man has proven to have one of the best / the most ridiculous macro outside Korea. His TvP is so powerful along with his PvT. He has beaten several progamers before, and IMO has the best chance of beating one, as far as USA player go. If not, Him/IdrA/Assem are best hands down. However is TvZ(granted good) is what gives him a 9

your crazy O_O


care to explain T_T?
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
August 02 2007 12:58 GMT
#238
rofl.. odin[fou] has losing record vs. my toss.. so 9?? u lost ur mind buddy lol
MorningWood
Profile Joined December 2006
United States78 Posts
August 02 2007 13:14 GMT
#239
LMFAO, the only reason ppl think odin[fou] beats progamers is because he says it himself. almost 100% of everything that comes out of his mouth is complete bullshit, he DOES NOT beat pros on a consistent basis, no matter what he proclaims...
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
August 02 2007 13:33 GMT
#240
On August 02 2007 21:58 Lz wrote:
rofl.. odin[fou] has losing record vs. my toss.. so 9?? u lost ur mind buddy lol



...yeah ok
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
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