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rtomic
Profile Joined September 2015
40 Posts
October 13 2020 09:20 GMT
#21
Are there any infos on the military service for flash? He is getting to the age that he can't postpone it further. Or is he somehow excepted?
KT FlaSh
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44303 Posts
October 13 2020 10:19 GMT
#22
Thanks for this small tidbit !
this is a quote
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 13 2020 10:30 GMT
#23
true to form, the man the legend loves his mind games!!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27368 Posts
October 13 2020 10:40 GMT
#24
On October 13 2020 07:49 unit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2020 06:50 outscar wrote:
He needs to write StarCraft Bible when he retires. But hell no, I wanna see him squashing noobs even when he hits 40.

While that would be awesome, I worry that if he wins an ASL with random he will just retire. He's done everything up to this point and now this is the ultimate challenge, if he wins this challenge what's left for him?

Win it playing Zerg exclusively?

Playing random he’s got the initial information advantage, a 1/3 chance of rolling GOAT Terran and a 1/3 chance rolling his Toss which is pretty damn good especially with the initial random advantage.

Does leave him an ungodly amount of prep to do for all the various scenarios he can potentially get. If he’s a real God he’d play his weakest race straight up and we’ll see how good he is then!

Joking aside it’s pretty crazy what he’s doing, possibly unparalleled in eSports that I can think of anyway.

Taking a step back and something I feel has been not mentioned enough in assessing Flash playing random and how impressive it is, is matchups while playing one race.

Even amongst the best of the best in BW a lot of players have weak matchups, sometimes to a comic degree. Which I think frames the difficulty of Flash’s quest and the progress made thus far in an even greater light.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria409 Posts
October 13 2020 15:03 GMT
#25
I have no idea what he's talking about on the vs free game and how and why Y follows after X, but I am stupid and flash is not. He's the universe brain, the one that is omniscient, we all want to be like him, that's enough.
The subject-matter of the art of living is each person's own life.
Ketroc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada74 Posts
October 15 2020 04:07 GMT
#26
On October 12 2020 10:58 razorsuKe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2020 10:33 jinjin5000 wrote:
<vs Free>


It didn't matter even if it was blocked. To block that attack I did, Free was forced to put all his focus into macro and fighting, while I was able to tech up while pushing out and keeping up macro at the same time.

I baited out and forced out the multi-tasking battle.


https://www.ygosu.com/community/real_article/starbbs/2797729/?page=2&frombest=Y


Did you mean micro and fighting?


I think he meant macro. ie, Free had to focus on solely producing units and fighting, while Flash was able to tech up during that time.
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bos)Kulik
Profile Joined October 2020
5 Posts
October 15 2020 05:44 GMT
#27
what is more impressive?
win as random or as Zerg / protoss?
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12056 Posts
October 15 2020 07:56 GMT
#28
On October 15 2020 14:44 bos)Kulik wrote:
what is more impressive?
win as random or as Zerg / protoss?


Given how many zergs keep getting deep into the ASL I'd say winning as zerg doesn't seem to be a big deal anymore. Winning as protoss seems to be the hardest these days.
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
October 15 2020 08:57 GMT
#29
On October 13 2020 19:40 WombaT wrote:

Joking aside it’s pretty crazy what he’s doing, possibly unparalleled in eSports that I can think of anyway.


Maybe Fatality, an FPS player who achieved great results in many different games, which is kinda like playing different races in BW. The competition was not as fierce back then though.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-15 09:45:28
October 15 2020 09:36 GMT
#30
On October 13 2020 08:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2020 07:49 unit wrote:
On October 13 2020 06:50 outscar wrote:
He needs to write StarCraft Bible when he retires. But hell no, I wanna see him squashing noobs even when he hits 40.

While that would be awesome, I worry that if he wins an ASL with random he will just retire. He's done everything up to this point and now this is the ultimate challenge, if he wins this challenge what's left for him?


Win a Bo5 against Effort

hahaha shots fired.
prepare for the onslaught of Flash fans :D
On October 15 2020 17:57 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2020 19:40 WombaT wrote:

Joking aside it’s pretty crazy what he’s doing, possibly unparalleled in eSports that I can think of anyway.


Maybe Fatality, an FPS player who achieved great results in many different games, which is kinda like playing different races in BW. The competition was not as fierce back then though.

There are people like Justin Wong from the fighting game community too, who has had success with multiple games.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
October 15 2020 10:31 GMT
#31
Thanks for these. Any chance on some translations of reactions from other pros etc to his play?
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
October 15 2020 11:16 GMT
#32
On October 15 2020 18:36 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2020 08:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
On October 13 2020 07:49 unit wrote:
On October 13 2020 06:50 outscar wrote:
He needs to write StarCraft Bible when he retires. But hell no, I wanna see him squashing noobs even when he hits 40.

While that would be awesome, I worry that if he wins an ASL with random he will just retire. He's done everything up to this point and now this is the ultimate challenge, if he wins this challenge what's left for him?


Win a Bo5 against Effort

hahaha shots fired.
prepare for the onslaught of Flash fans :D


pew pew pew

On October 15 2020 18:36 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2020 17:57 nojok wrote:
On October 13 2020 19:40 WombaT wrote:

Joking aside it’s pretty crazy what he’s doing, possibly unparalleled in eSports that I can think of anyway.


Maybe Fatality, an FPS player who achieved great results in many different games, which is kinda like playing different races in BW. The competition was not as fierce back then though.

There are people like Justin Wong from the fighting game community too, who has had success with multiple games.


reminds of me of Gareth Bale, switching positions and still doing well
Что?
caffeine_free
Profile Joined September 2020
18 Posts
October 15 2020 12:08 GMT
#33
G1 was great to watch but G2 snow opening had me going "goddayumm this guys gets it" repeatedly for the first few minutes. What a fucking smart way to set the pace and kill a lot of momentum flash gets for being random. Not to mention coming to that conclusion after the way G1 went. So smart. G2 of that series and then ofc the snow vs free game were great, and pvp is my least favorite mirror
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27368 Posts
October 15 2020 12:54 GMT
#34
Yeah Jiexian and nojok, two good shouts there!

I guess Wendell/Fatality existed in a different era of eSports (not temporally, but in terms of maturation in the West), but yeah he’s a legendary figure.

Not so familiar with fighting games, but will investigate further.

I guess what makes Flash so impressive to me is that BW is so figured out and the level is so high and even then most of his peers can’t master their race to an equivalent level across 3 matchups, indeed many have an outright clear weak matchup.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1717 Posts
October 15 2020 13:18 GMT
#35
On October 15 2020 16:56 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2020 14:44 bos)Kulik wrote:
what is more impressive?
win as random or as Zerg / protoss?


Given how many zergs keep getting deep into the ASL I'd say winning as zerg doesn't seem to be a big deal anymore. Winning as protoss seems to be the hardest these days.

He probably means for Flash.
Obviously random is easier as he can still roll T. He’d have to prepare for more MUs, but the same is true for his opponent. Random games also tend to be less straightforward, giving the inferior player (Flash) a better chance.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19385 Posts
October 15 2020 14:27 GMT
#36
I worry that if Flash main-ed as Protoss, he'd win everything and make all other Protoss players feel stupid for struggling as hard as they do. I wonder if this is what Terran's feel like right now?
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 15 2020 14:58 GMT
#37
Honestly, his protoss is like top amateur level so I think he could qualify for ASL with it but I don't think he would get much further than that.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4385 Posts
October 15 2020 18:53 GMT
#38
On October 13 2020 18:20 rtomic wrote:
Are there any infos on the military service for flash? He is getting to the age that he can't postpone it further. Or is he somehow excepted?


He has medical exemption. Search for the gigantic scar on his arm from surgery he had 10 or so years ago due to his injuries.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10847 Posts
October 15 2020 19:07 GMT
#39
On October 15 2020 23:27 BisuDagger wrote:
I worry that if Flash main-ed as Protoss, he'd win everything and make all other Protoss players feel stupid for struggling as hard as they do. I wonder if this is what Terran's feel like right now?

Or he creates new innovations we all will use for the future to come, which I think is more probable.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-15 19:40:58
October 15 2020 19:40 GMT
#40
On October 15 2020 23:27 BisuDagger wrote:
I worry that if Flash main-ed as Protoss, he'd win everything and make all other Protoss players feel stupid for struggling as hard as they do. I wonder if this is what Terran's feel like right now?


It is opposite. Everyone thinks terran is easy and OP because Flash makes it look easy, while in reality we are losing all the time and complain about terran being to hard. ;-)
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