you can see from the print screen I was preparing to drop and he have no way to know I was coming but his army go straight to the drop. from the print screen you can see the players that was in-game and hour it was around 1:30

Matias_SC

116 Posts

March 26 2022 03:16 GMT

#864

second print screen

Matias_SC

116 Posts

March 26 2022 03:23 GMT

#865

https://repmastered.app/game/LU6-pqK44x4WUIGSvokJfSJUc0FtVEy3lqGvACLIVSQ

please have a look from min 11

badbeatpete

25 Posts

March 26 2022 05:05 GMT

#866

I watched the replay out of curiosity and there are multiple reasons why I don't think he was hacking.
1. He scv scouts at the beginning of the game.
2. He gets caught off guard by dts.
3. At 11 minutes he uses a scan on your main leaving himself 22 energy. This doesn't make sense if he has full vision of your base.
4. His scan reveals you morphing a lot of lurkers under multiple overlords.
5. He then scv scouts and sees there are no units coming and you moved your damaged lurker that was outside his base.

Just as an aside, would you be ok with people getting banned based on one instance of circumstantial evidence? Is this a fair and reasonable policy to you?

MeSaber

Sweden1235 Posts

March 26 2022 05:07 GMT

#867

Retracted my statement, this guy is an A player. There is nothing weird about this game.

http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=BG-BlackProtosS

My advice for you the Zerg, unload Overlords faster next time and you would have been alright.

wimpwimpwimp

171 Posts

March 26 2022 19:00 GMT

#868

I don't think this player should be banned based on this replay alone, but there's certainly enough strange stuff going on here to raise suspicion:

1) He doesn't scout at all except his neighbor once and the 10:45 scan. You could argue the protosses should have been scouting more thoroughly, but they didn't.

2) Playing t against zzp, it's just a bonkers move to stop producing marines when you've got only four, and float all your barracks to your neighbour. Unless of course you know there's no zerglings coming your way.

3) With regards to the dts, he does start to make an engineering bay as soon as the attack on 6 is over. He "should" have made a scanner also, but he was about to die to dragoons, so his focus may have been elsewhere.

4) His rating (2502) seems a little high in relation to the level of skill demonstrated here. Making academy before refinery, his scouting and decision making as discussed above, etc.

5) Finally there's the timing of his reaction to the drop at 11:15. A drop should be expected, and him moving his marines right after the drop is on its way could be a coincidence, but he even emptied the bunker at his door.

The botched attack at 5:25 does weaken the case however. If he had known about the colony to the left, he would / should have waited for a bigger army.

beWaterMyFriend78

114 Posts

March 26 2022 19:29 GMT

#869

Hio, guys i was in the game , he dont hack he dont make any def vs dts . The only reason why he thinks he hack was because he kill his drope. he could well imagine. Hes Mad thats the report and we won the game, sorry Matias but good players think along with us and it was not inconsiderable that a lurker drope would come.
I don't see any indication that he's hacking and I've already had a few games against him. It was never the case. but just my humble opinion.

Matias_SC

116 Posts

March 27 2022 00:44 GMT

#870

right, so beWaterMyFriend why do you lie? you were NOT in that game! I played before you many times and there is no player there playing with your APM from this perspective you have a good APM so please don't lie! Now if you really look at the rep you will see his focus was on zerg(me) and just watch slow from the 11 min only with what he sees then watch again with the map revealed and have a look when I load my overlords and his marines. it was just a coincidence? I don't think so.
now, badbeatpete, would you be ok with people cheating and not being banned? do you have any idea how many people was banned unfairly? ask beWaterMyFriend he use to report people but he is not playing as a team and then he starts crying here cos his team attack him and yeah the rules are rules no warning, nothing just baned, is that right? in this scenario lets install all maphack and play.
anyway, he can be banned or not I can live with that. but trust me I know what I played and I know when a player is using maphack and I'm 100% he is using it.

beWaterMyFriend78

114 Posts

March 27 2022 01:30 GMT

#871

Hi there,
You know 100% that he's hacking, just like you know I'm lying or wasn't in said game. (I went in and looked at the relay after the game) You have no proof he's hacking. Of course I'm against hacking, but everyone who's seen and posted the replay so far couldn't find anything suspicious.

badbeatpete

25 Posts

March 27 2022 02:18 GMT

#872

On March 27 2022 09:44 Matias_SC wrote:
right, so beWaterMyFriend why do you lie? you were NOT in that game! I played before you many times and there is no player there playing with your APM from this perspective you have a good APM so please don't lie! Now if you really look at the rep you will see his focus was on zerg(me) and just watch slow from the 11 min only with what he sees then watch again with the map revealed and have a look when I load my overlords and his marines. it was just a coincidence? I don't think so.
now, badbeatpete, would you be ok with people cheating and not being banned? do you have any idea how many people was banned unfairly? ask beWaterMyFriend he use to report people but he is not playing as a team and then he starts crying here cos his team attack him and yeah the rules are rules no warning, nothing just baned, is that right? in this scenario lets install all maphack and play.
anyway, he can be banned or not I can live with that. but trust me I know what I played and I know when a player is using maphack and I'm 100% he is using it.

Leading up to the moment in question, the player scanned your main leaving himself with almost no comsat energy. Sent an scv to scout the outside of his base. Then sends an scv to start a turret on the right side of his base. It is very obvious he is thinking a drop is coming. Unloading the bunker prior is not even a risky move because he has a scouting scv outside his base. Another point of interest in the game nobody brought up is when he gets attacked by a large number of zerglings at his front, but reacts slowly, not bringing scvs to repair quickly.

In light of all the evidence that suggests this player is not hacking (the scv scouts, scans, unprepared for dts, slow response to large ling attack) you say you are 100% sure he is hacking based on ONE move. Now if another person could review all the games you've played and found ONE moment that looked odd, should you get banned as well?

Matias_SC

116 Posts

March 27 2022 03:47 GMT

#873

one man wise he said "there is no point to arguing with stupid people they will win easily with their experience" I'm not saying it I just do not argue with anyone, my mistake. he is slayer_boxer is too good with this game, his skill is impeccable, okay? my bad! you won guys. Is everyone happy? Have Fun! Good Game! Cheers!

pebble444

Italy2498 Posts

March 27 2022 06:57 GMT

#874

Be like water my friend; be like water

MeSaber

Sweden1235 Posts

March 27 2022 10:11 GMT

#875

No matter what you cant ban on just THAT failed drop.

You also need to realize if you dropped lurkers at once you might have killed him, instead you ran overlords to death and thats the end of the case.

beWaterMyFriend78

114 Posts

March 27 2022 13:46 GMT

#876

It's nice that you all stamped us as stupid without justification :D it was about you calling someone a hacker and your "justification" is very thin. You don't have to vote us, and it's not about who's "right" or wrong, but if you accuse someone of something and we're supposed to trust you blindly, I'd call that stupid, no offense.

D3AD-R3TARD

Poland309 Posts

March 30 2022 09:15 GMT

#877

On March 25 2022 11:03 Matias_SC wrote:
player BG-BlackProtosS using maphack. I can send you the replay cos I have no idea how to upload it here.

Hi!

I've seen the replay and I have to say I'm not convinced that BG-BlackProtosS have used map hack. I am also not 100% sure that it didn't happen, but I'm not going to ban somebody just because there is some chance of hacking.

Players of high rank are usually good because they can predict strategies used by other players. The scan just before the drop reveals that units are waiting in base and overlords are not over mineral lines where they usually reside. I can believe that an experienced player immediately recognized that the drop is coming.

d4d

Switzerland1066 Posts

April 03 2022 22:54 GMT

#878

I still have the issue about the bot not seeing me as I come in the lobby... I have to rejoin or the game won't start. Is it a known issue, or is it just me the bot do not like?

Matias_SC

116 Posts

April 04 2022 00:54 GMT

#879

now... just have a look at the rep and the conversation at the beginning and judge for yourself.
https://repmastered.app/game/Elw3n9iFgbhrqGA1iuBXFMuRnFeAvErVNAPbxxsNS9k

Matias_SC

116 Posts

April 04 2022 01:01 GMT

#880

another one just have a look at this rep. it is a team game. my team never help and WATASZEF killing my base, the rules are rules, he will be banned? I don't think so. artofrush no help no opening he will be? I don't think so... let's see what the admin said
https://repmastered.app/game/CT8QC3dmjskroS3SUOOmq3X3E5QkDaRrUhmgXjSbDZM
D3AD-R3TARD will you do something about it? how about the other rep(on top of this post) do you need more evidence of hacking?