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Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-28 02:46:20
February 28 2020 02:21 GMT
#1
Let’s talk about the map Hitchhiker and whether all agree it will make for an exciting unorthodox map for this season’s ASL9. Does anyone have any current statistics for the balance of this map in modern sponsored matches? I think it has the potential to be an action packed low economy type of map. Anyone feel different? I am looking forward to the games that will be played on it in the RO16 and onwards.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
February 28 2020 03:04 GMT
#2
Small rush distance, majority non-natural pathways.
From the small amount of games I saw it's mostly rush into mass air.

Due to the moderate far 3rd gas & extremely difficult 4th gas I see a lot of timing push from Terran to kill opponent outright b4 they can amass gas tech.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
February 28 2020 09:21 GMT
#3
It's an awesome map. Very glad it is in the map pool. But I'm afraid it won't get used a lot, at least on the ladder and in non-kor tournaments.
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Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
February 28 2020 11:43 GMT
#4
Hitchiker in ASL? Really? This makes me so happy. I was randomly wondering about older maps I'd like to see in ASL and Hitchhiker kept popping up in my head. No idea how it will play it. I'm just along for the ride.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't Park Yeong Min - CJ fighting!
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
February 28 2020 22:22 GMT
#5
This is the kind of weird map that I like (not a fan of stuff like Inner Coven and Sparkles), saw a few games on stream and it looks like tons of fun!
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
February 29 2020 01:21 GMT
#6
patyrykin.net
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 29 2020 19:04 GMT
#7
So stoked for this. Iirc there was a community(?) tournament with korean pro/am streamers that featured HH back in 2019 or 2018, but the games weren't all that great from what I recall. Hoping they show us some good games
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
February 29 2020 20:15 GMT
#8


behold one of the best games on this map

not every map should be late game macro focused, and for that sole reason i fucking love this map
POGGERS
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
March 01 2020 09:14 GMT
#9
One thing I hate about this map is the snow. Makes visibility so much worse. They should really change the ground into something else.
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Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
March 05 2020 00:22 GMT
#10
I am surprised I am not seeing any games on hitchhiker on the pros youtube accounts.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
March 05 2020 03:39 GMT
#11
I like the map but the top base is just bad, you have to build stuff to the left and it messes with the pathing a lot at least for terran. Not fun. Other than that the idea of the map itself is cool, I would place the 3rd gas closer though, a mineral only 3rd on a map with no space for vultures or marines to move around is not ideal to say the least.
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
March 05 2020 09:03 GMT
#12
On March 01 2020 18:14 arbiter_md wrote:
One thing I hate about this map is the snow. Makes visibility so much worse. They should really change the ground into something else.

really? you must have some amazingly weak eyes my man.. Snow is actually great for visibility..
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 05 2020 10:27 GMT
#13
i think the snow's white is too bright and dynamic, it does hurt the eyes after a while imo
POGGERS
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
March 05 2020 11:38 GMT
#14
This map produced so many great games. It's a shame that it was only played one season. Glad it's back
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4028 Posts
March 05 2020 11:47 GMT
#15
Fantastic non-standard maps create fun games. Innovation & balance changes through map making is what makes BW so special.
Drone is a way of living
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
March 12 2020 02:26 GMT
#16
Anyone got the stats for this map off sponbang for racial balance?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
March 12 2020 10:28 GMT
#17
GGplay’s hold against Iris in the Daum OSL final was so clutch (for it’s time).
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2934 Posts
March 12 2020 20:05 GMT
#18
I'm offended this hasn't been posted yet.

Fuck KeSPA.
[Fin]Vittu
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada507 Posts
March 13 2020 20:48 GMT
#19
You can't forget this game too:

The "Finnish Metal Terran"
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
March 15 2020 04:18 GMT
#20
Jaedong against Flash I think on Hitchhiker
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
March 15 2020 09:50 GMT
#21
On March 15 2020 13:18 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Jaedong against Flash I think on Hitchhiker
https://youtube.com/watch?v=76VzEehuWYs

hahah.. that was epic.. :D they were so excited.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
March 15 2020 10:04 GMT
#22
On March 15 2020 18:50 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2020 13:18 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Jaedong against Flash I think on Hitchhiker
https://youtube.com/watch?v=76VzEehuWYs

hahah.. that was epic.. :D they were so excited.


It was vs Last!

GOGOGOGOGO JAEDONG!!!!! I LOVE YOUUUUU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
March 29 2020 15:32 GMT
#23
Anybody know how the balance for Hitchhiker is for PvZ and ZvP? I have been wondering.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
March 29 2020 15:56 GMT
#24
Great map, proved again today
The heart's eternal vow
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
March 30 2020 00:25 GMT
#25
Is the map Terran-favoured in TvZ? At least, that seems to be the 'insinuation' from a LR thread recently. And if so, why?
gg no re thx
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
March 30 2020 01:51 GMT
#26
it isn't one of my favorite maps, but it definitely has some interesting outcomes.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-30 05:46:34
March 30 2020 05:41 GMT
#27
On March 30 2020 09:25 RKC wrote:
Is the map Terran-favoured in TvZ? At least, that seems to be the 'insinuation' from a LR thread recently. And if so, why?

Artosis said in the stream it is Z favored in ZvT because Muta harass can stop any M&M pushes since all the cliffs in the middle make marines die to muta. And he also said that a few Lurkers can slow down any M&M push also.

TvP I feel like once the T Siege Tank pushes Protoss dies every time.

That is why I am left wondering about ZvP/PvZ. When Soma plays Bisu we should have a better idea about the balance.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
March 30 2020 06:23 GMT
#28
On March 30 2020 14:41 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2020 09:25 RKC wrote:
Is the map Terran-favoured in TvZ? At least, that seems to be the 'insinuation' from a LR thread recently. And if so, why?

Artosis said in the stream it is Z favored in ZvT because Muta harass can stop any M&M pushes since all the cliffs in the middle make marines die to muta. And he also said that a few Lurkers can slow down any M&M push also.

TvP I feel like once the T Siege Tank pushes Protoss dies every time.

That is why I am left wondering about ZvP/PvZ. When Soma plays Bisu we should have a better idea about the balance.


I also note some on TL saying that the overall map pool in this current ASL is Zerg-favoured. That true as well? Which maps?
gg no re thx
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 30 2020 07:57 GMT
#29
On March 15 2020 13:18 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Jaedong against Flash I think on Hitchhiker
https://youtube.com/watch?v=76VzEehuWYs

The people are clearly hungry for JD victories :D
Mine gas, build tanks.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-30 09:02:35
March 30 2020 09:01 GMT
#30
On March 30 2020 00:56 PVJ wrote:
Great map, proved again today


in which game?

Parfume vs BishOp from Jeez Weekly #62 @ Hitchhiker was an absolutely amazing one, I know that.

Shame that only Silver casted it.. badly :3
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5669 Posts
March 30 2020 10:37 GMT
#31
On March 30 2020 14:41 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2020 09:25 RKC wrote:
Is the map Terran-favoured in TvZ? At least, that seems to be the 'insinuation' from a LR thread recently. And if so, why?
TvP I feel like once the T Siege Tank pushes Protoss dies every time.

Perhaps they could make the mineral-only into a gas expansion? That would make it a viable option for a natural perhaps? Maybe make it have less gas, though. That could shift players' attention away from the corridor, giving people more incentive to open up the map.
MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
March 30 2020 13:15 GMT
#32
it kinda forces 1 base play vs zerg and that limits way too many options. I mean its new so we havent seen much of it this ASL but i feel i'll get bored of it returns for another season.
blackmanpl
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
67 Posts
March 30 2020 13:27 GMT
#33
Artosis said in the stream it is Z favored in ZvT because Muta harass can stop any M&M pushes


That's like saying islands are z-favored because you can't do 8 rax, this map is strongly anti-zerg.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10238 Posts
March 30 2020 14:30 GMT
#34
On March 30 2020 22:15 MinixTheNerd wrote:
it kinda forces 1 base play vs zerg and that limits way too many options. I mean its new so we havent seen much of it this ASL but i feel i'll get bored of it returns for another season.

the map is not new, it was played way back when right before the modern era of KesPA. 2006-2007 was the era of the map, there existed a meta back then.

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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
April 07 2020 09:31 GMT
#35
On March 15 2020 13:18 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Jaedong against Flash I think on Hitchhiker
https://youtube.com/watch?v=76VzEehuWYs


Anyone knows which league this is ?
2020 Star BJ Destruction Season 2 ? I can't seem to find it on Liquipedia.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 07 2020 12:54 GMT
#36
On April 07 2020 18:31 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2020 13:18 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Jaedong against Flash I think on Hitchhiker
https://youtube.com/watch?v=76VzEehuWYs


Anyone knows which league this is ?
2020 Star BJ Destruction Season 2 ? I can't seem to find it on Liquipedia.

It was vs Last
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
April 07 2020 13:04 GMT
#37
On April 07 2020 21:54 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 18:31 vndestiny wrote:
On March 15 2020 13:18 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Jaedong against Flash I think on Hitchhiker
https://youtube.com/watch?v=76VzEehuWYs


Anyone knows which league this is ?
2020 Star BJ Destruction Season 2 ? I can't seem to find it on Liquipedia.

It was vs Last

Ye I saw someone correct above, but which league was this game played on though? End of the game there were 3 casters, with the league logo behind, but I cant figure out what league exactly :/
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
April 07 2020 13:10 GMT
#38
On March 30 2020 22:27 blackmanpl wrote:
Show nested quote +
Artosis said in the stream it is Z favored in ZvT because Muta harass can stop any M&M pushes


That's like saying islands are z-favored because you can't do 8 rax, this map is strongly anti-zerg.


You say the game itself is anti zerg; you're just a race whiner
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
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