EPTOn February 01 2019 21:09 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
what the heck is a humpty dumpty??
what the heck is a humpty dumpty??
An easly to break character with a bad relations with a walls XD
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hitthat
Poland2268 Posts
An easly to break character with a bad relations with a walls XD | ||
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TelecoM
United States10686 Posts
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RWLabs
Korea (South)273 Posts
On February 01 2019 22:07 Cele wrote: Lore-wise, Terrans should be the least dominating of the three races. Protoss are clearly the more technical advanced humanoid race and the Zerg Swarm has nearly unlimited amounts of troops, the ability to evolve and adapt into any environmental and strategical nessecity, plus ultimate control by the overmind/kerrigan. So, in short i think lore-wise zerg and protoss are at pari, both also representing two different aspects of the master race, xel naga, while terran is perhaps most agressive in space colonisation but technological the least developed. (In my consideration im leaving the sc2 plotline out intentionally, because i consider it not canonic due to various reasons) Considering the UED's expedition force caused such a headache for everyone, fairly sure in-game Terrans are the strongest. | ||
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CHEONSOYUN
562 Posts
the entire plot of bw revolves around who controls the zerg | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On February 01 2019 23:12 GGzerG wrote: If humpty dumpty sat on my wall off's in PvZ he would def fall off, they are so random Great comment, haha I am Z but not good, I can tell immediately whether my opponent is good or not by the quality of their walls. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2749 Posts
In TvT, there is little volatility; the better player usually wins. ZvZ is known for its high volatility, people call it a rock-paper-scissor matchup, highly depended on chance. Also PvP sees many wins when the players open 2gate-obs, 3gate or DTs (2gate-obs > DTs > 3gate > 2gate-obs). The idea is that the mirror matchups shake out the bad Ts, but not the bad Zs or Ps. So it's not the T>Z>P>T that drives the unequal distribution, but the fact that mediocre Zs and Ps can advance on their mirror matchups. I made a little monte-carlo-esque simulation of it. And if you accept that the volatility of is highest in PvP and lowest in TvT, you will see that Ts win most tourneys, and Ps the least. analysis: https://repl.it/repls/TinyMadeupCopycat | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On February 01 2019 22:07 Cele wrote: Lore-wise, Terrans should be the least dominating of the three races. Protoss are clearly the more technical advanced humanoid race and the Zerg Swarm has nearly unlimited amounts of troops, the ability to evolve and adapt into any environmental and strategical nessecity, plus ultimate control by the overmind/kerrigan. So, in short i think lore-wise zerg and protoss are at pari, both also representing two different aspects of the master race, xel naga, while terran is perhaps most agressive in space colonisation but technological the least developed. (In my consideration im leaving the sc2 plotline out intentionally, because i consider it not canonic due to various reasons) There's no way that Terrans expand more aggressively than the Zerg | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On February 03 2019 22:28 Navane wrote: Thing is, zvz and pvp volatility has been overstated. Top level zvz players players pull out as consistent results as terrans in mirrors, pvp too. Remember bisus like, 80% pvp record over the course of a year? 2009~ i thinkOne of the comments here suggested that maybe the perceived T dominance in tournaments is due the relative volatilities of the mirror matchups. I like this hypothesis because its so mathematical. In TvT, there is little volatility; the better player usually wins. ZvZ is known for its high volatility, people call it a rock-paper-scissor matchup, highly depended on chance. Also PvP sees many wins when the players open 2gate-obs, 3gate or DTs (2gate-obs > DTs > 3gate > 2gate-obs). The idea is that the mirror matchups shake out the bad Ts, but not the bad Zs or Ps. So it's not the T>Z>P>T that drives the unequal distribution, but the fact that mediocre Zs and Ps can advance on their mirror matchups. I made a little monte-carlo-esque simulation of it. And if you accept that the volatility of is highest in PvP and lowest in TvT, you will see that Ts win most tourneys, and Ps the least. analysis: https://repl.it/repls/TinyMadeupCopycat edit: 36 wins - 7 losses (83.72%) from 2008-12-03 to 2009-10-28 obviously bisus superlative and so was jaedong but its not as if the players below them had results indicative of randomness or high volatility, you have players with years of consistent and explicable results. | ||
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Highgamer
1444 Posts
On February 01 2019 22:07 Cele wrote: Lore-wise, Terrans should be the least dominating of the three races. Protoss are clearly the more technical advanced humanoid race and the Zerg Swarm has nearly unlimited amounts of troops, the ability to evolve and adapt into any environmental and strategical nessecity, plus ultimate control by the overmind/kerrigan. (This is not a thread about lore but as you brought it up): What does "more technologically advanced" mean? At least one has to consider that there are different fields where a race can be more or less advanced on. I always find it funny when in films/games it's the blaster-weapon/psy-magic-users who're labeled "more advanced" when none of them came up with anything as destructive as firearms, meaning gunpowder and bullets, rockets (not to mention nukes). The latter are probably more wasteful in terms of resources but what effs if you can colonize and mine on infinite planets? As for Zergs, they're obviously on "kill it with fire"-level. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On February 23 2019 02:14 Highgamer wrote: (This is not a thread about lore but as you brought it up): What does "more technologically advanced" mean? At least one has to consider that there are different fields where a race can be more or less advanced on. I always find it funny when in films/games it's the blaster-weapon/psy-magic-users who're labeled "more advanced" when none of them came up with anything as destructive as firearms, meaning gunpowder and bullets, rockets (not to mention nukes). The latter are probably more wasteful in terms of resources but what effs if you can colonize and mine on infinite planets? As for Zergs, they're obviously on "kill it with fire"-level. yeah i agree, it's a common cliche in sci-fi films/games that the alien race with the psy/laser tech is more advanced. But Broodwar is just serving it, don't you think? @Voddy: fair point. Zerg is clearly depicted as the most expansive race in the universe. | ||
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Highgamer
1444 Posts
On February 23 2019 02:59 Cele wrote: yeah i agree, it's a common cliche in sci-fi films/games that the alien race with the psy/laser tech is more advanced. But Broodwar is just serving it, don't you think? Yeah, I admit the warping stuff in and recall-teleporting shit is kind of | ||
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1a2a3aPro
Canada227 Posts
This is off-topic but related, apologies if this is not the correct place to ask this: Tinyland had translated a video in the past about Iris (a.k.a. Berserker) talking to his stream about Tesagi, listing all of the things that Terran has that is Tesagi. He starts with one or two and slowly adds more as his chat brings more things up. Does anyone know if I can find that somewhere? I remember it was hilarious to watch. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
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IPS.Blue
Germany309 Posts
I'm going to coin the term, the Flash Effect here and the name gives you the gist of it. When Flash returned to the scene in 2016, his return was a huge boon for the Terran race. He helped move the meta along, refining builds such as the 5 rax +1 and the 1-1-1 while he showed fantastic gameplay and made decisions that were far beyond that of even the best Terrans at the time. In economics this would be called spillover. | ||
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