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Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-15 22:34:25
September 19 2018 19:34 GMT
#1
UPDATE: Bubbles Version 0.91 released

Download (4)Bubbles from this page

There is also a "no fog" version available here:
(4)Bubbles0p91(o)No Fog.scx click here to download

Overview

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Changelog:

15th August 2019
Version 0.91 Bubbles
-Improved mining rates.
(Involved top left, top right, and bottom right mains being moved up 1 tile).
(1 mineral patch in the top left nat is wonky but fast).

19th September 2018
Version 0.9 Bubbles


Here's a gif showing slightly outdated Bubbles 0.9 compared to fs:

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Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10354 Posts
September 19 2018 20:11 GMT
#2
so.... FS version of crown and scepter?
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12027 Posts
September 19 2018 20:26 GMT
#3
On September 20 2018 05:11 FlaShFTW wrote:
so.... FS version of crown and scepter?


I guess the major difference between this and FS is how far the third is in comparison and the double bridges. The middle is also wider.
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
September 19 2018 20:31 GMT
#4
Wait a gosh darn minute, you can make non fog maps?! Like in SC2? How come this hasn't become the standard!?

Map looks cool BTW, I'll give it a go!
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 22:11:35
September 19 2018 22:11 GMT
#5
On September 20 2018 05:31 hiro protagonist wrote:
Wait a gosh darn minute, you can make non fog maps?! Like in SC2? How come this hasn't become the standard!?

We've had this discussion recently: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/533727-my-take-on-fog-of-war
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland740 Posts
September 20 2018 09:54 GMT
#6
Looks like if FS and CB had a desert tileset baby.
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Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
September 21 2018 14:06 GMT
#7
-double bridges

-larger battlespaces in the mid

-much wider paths to 3rds

-wall ramps to 3rd with 2 pylons

-safer nat chokes (the choke itself)

-extra cliff at nat chokes helps defender eg muta vs marine

-no cubby outside nat choke to hide tanks in etc

-proper overlord spots everywhere

-more buildable space in bottom left main

-wall bridges with 3 depots (or 4 pylons)

-no tank holes or high templar holes (theres lots on fs, eg theres enough space for 10 tanks in the space above the 9 o clock base, or 8 high templars around the top right nat)

-lots of other little things that I think add up

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I reckon the double bridges will really mix things up nicely.

Lots of people saying that Crown And Sceptre needed to be changed to standard rotational symmetry, well here it is.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
September 22 2018 17:15 GMT
#8
Have you any suggested changes I could make to the map before sending it to LatiAs?
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1533 Posts
September 22 2018 17:33 GMT
#9
Have you bugfixed this thoroughly? Have you also checked that auto-pathfinding between different mains/nats is the same (which bridges scouts take, for example)?

I have my doubts that what they are looking for is actually the next CB/FS clone. Have you asked him whether this is even eligible, given that "blatant plagiarism" is not permissible?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 22 2018 19:24 GMT
#10
Something about this map looks really familiar.
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Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-22 21:48:02
September 22 2018 19:48 GMT
#11
I havent done pathing yet incase something big needs changing first. Thats why Im seeing if anyone has suggestions right now.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6830 Posts
September 22 2018 19:48 GMT
#12
can u rip the fs concept and surprise us with some original ideas ? please
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-22 21:40:21
September 22 2018 19:58 GMT
#13
Might make another map at some point.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
October 30 2018 10:31 GMT
#14
We see LatiAs has made a fighting spirit remake on the twilight tileset with the rotation in the other direction:
https://blog.naver.com/kartanes/220990315979

CadenZie is saying its going to be used in sponsored matches soon.
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
October 30 2018 11:04 GMT
#15
I wouldn't mind if FS was switched out for a clone like this one, since a lot of tournaments insist on having FS, at the very least we change this a little bit
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Yanokabo
Profile Joined October 2018
268 Posts
October 30 2018 11:40 GMT
#16
On October 30 2018 19:31 Jukado wrote:
We see LatiAs has made a fighting spirit remake on the twilight tileset with the rotation in the other direction:
https://blog.naver.com/kartanes/220990315979

CadenZie is saying its going to be used in sponsored matches soon.

That seems like a really good map. Is cadenzie really in the know about things though? My one wish is they would bring back destination, or even more just invent some brand new maps completely different than any others, but no one shares this vision aparently.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
October 30 2018 11:43 GMT
#17
how am i supposed to win PvT?
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Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-30 11:58:00
October 30 2018 11:57 GMT
#18
Here's a gif showing Bubbles compared to fs:

[image loading]
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
Yanokabo
Profile Joined October 2018
268 Posts
October 30 2018 12:10 GMT
#19
I’m more of a fan of the twilight one just for the rotational variance. Might as well just call “bubbles” desert FS.
Gorgonoth
Profile Joined August 2017
United States468 Posts
October 30 2018 14:05 GMT
#20
Looks good
zerglingling
Profile Joined April 2018
131 Posts
October 31 2018 10:08 GMT
#21
On October 30 2018 20:43 XenOsky wrote:
how am i supposed to win PvT?

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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10310 Posts
October 31 2018 11:44 GMT
#22
Seems like the ramps at 12 and 6 got closer together, but the ramps at 3 and 9 got farther apart, which could have some positional effects on various MUs for sure.
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ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States726 Posts
October 31 2018 20:53 GMT
#23
I like it a lot. It takes FS and gives it some edge.

But are there different amounts of minerals and gas in the center?
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Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-15 22:26:24
August 15 2019 21:13 GMT
#24
15th August 2019
Version 0.91 Bubbles
-Improved mining rates.
(Involved top left, top right, and bottom right mains being moved up 1 tile).
(1 mineral patch in the top left nat is wonky but fast).

Download (4)Bubbles from this page

There is also a "no fog" version available here:
(4)Bubbles0p91(o)No Fog.scx click here to download

Overview

[image loading]
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
August 15 2019 21:49 GMT
#25
This map looks amazing, FS with 2 ramps and orange tileset.
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