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Patch 1.21.5 (Map Pool / Settings) - Page 3

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Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands657 Posts
April 13 2018 14:15 GMT
#41
On April 13 2018 22:19 SCC-Faust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 22:16 kogeT wrote:
I think forcing red vs blue is just bad, it should be possible to achieve that via shift tab or so, but not forced.


As someone who created power rankings for reach race via colors, I'm really disappointed.

Purple Protoss = strongest Protoss color
Red Zerg = strongest Zerg color
Blue Terran = strongest Terran color

White/Yellow are very high up there for Z as well. And Green being very high for Protoss too.
From my research, Zerg does better with warm colors, where Protoss does better with cool colors.

And Terran is good no matter what color they are.


I love that you actually researched this, because from watching many games I noticed a similar pattern. Whenever I see the best colour you mentioned for each race (and Yellow Zerg), I automatically favour them, and it usually turns out true. I'm happy it wasn't just some random bias.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10847 Posts
April 13 2018 15:13 GMT
#42
People complaining about the Race colors being changed to Red / Blue, try being color blind for a day.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
April 13 2018 15:19 GMT
#43
Personally I always shift tabbed and I'm excited to play blue instead of teal, but why can't we pick our shift tabbed colors in 2018?
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States660 Posts
April 13 2018 15:57 GMT
#44
For some reason my game's showing me and my opponent as purple and blue respectively every match, rather than red/blue. Is anyone else getting this?
10dla
Profile Joined March 2018
127 Posts
April 13 2018 16:51 GMT
#45
On April 13 2018 07:21 Shinokuki wrote:
this what they did for a month? lol...

People are currently talking across 3 pages about red and blue. Just imagine being the one who has to make that decision
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
April 13 2018 16:59 GMT
#46
Third World would have been my choice, that map is amazing.

Ether way, happy for something new to play on
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
April 13 2018 17:10 GMT
#47
On April 14 2018 00:13 GGzerG wrote:
People complaining about the Race colors being changed to Red / Blue, try being color blind for a day.


What a silly argument... Let's take away your ability to walk as well, cause try being paraplegic for a day!
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Gorgonoth
Profile Joined August 2017
United States468 Posts
April 13 2018 17:23 GMT
#48
im still suprised blizz dosent let people choose a shift tab color lol
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States741 Posts
April 13 2018 17:45 GMT
#49
I want to start playing BW Remastered. The new ASL maps and this new patch are getting me excited.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
Krankendau
Profile Joined August 2006
Lithuania8 Posts
April 13 2018 19:51 GMT
#50
On April 14 2018 02:10 B-royal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 00:13 GGzerG wrote:
People complaining about the Race colors being changed to Red / Blue, try being color blind for a day.


What a silly argument... Let's take away your ability to walk as well, cause try being paraplegic for a day!

I second that. Removing colors is the dumbest thing i have heard in months.
ADD variety, not remove, OMG... as someone said, this is 2018?...
Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway663 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-14 13:42:15
April 13 2018 20:25 GMT
#51
You guys do realize you can just shift+tab and then you have colors? It's red and blue as default, not as the only colors available.

EDIT: I may have to retract that, as I haven't tested it out thouroughly.
It's ok. I still love you <3
Rucho
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-13 21:49:21
April 13 2018 21:46 GMT
#52
1300 MMR RA2/SC2 newb reporting. 336 games and 48% WR
I would love for 2v2 and other features. I feel like this game (RE) was released unfinished.

6K+ games played in SC2 and apparently nothing transferred over! hahaha.
antes los dollares eran bonitos, pero ahorra dollares ni ay
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1534 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-14 08:48:15
April 14 2018 08:44 GMT
#53
On April 13 2018 22:19 SCC-Faust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 22:16 kogeT wrote:
I think forcing red vs blue is just bad, it should be possible to achieve that via shift tab or so, but not forced.


As someone who created power rankings for reach race via colors, I'm really disappointed.

Purple Protoss = strongest Protoss color
Red Zerg = strongest Zerg color
Blue Terran = strongest Terran color

White/Yellow are very high up there for Z as well. And Green being very high for Protoss too.
From my research, Zerg does better with warm colors, where Protoss does better with cool colors.

And Terran is good no matter what color they are.

So are the statistics skewed by the different colour palettes of different maps? Or can we now think about balancing maps via player colour adjustment?
Seriously though, the best and easiest solution would be to allow players to select their colours, like in any other RTS game in existence. Extra points if "random" is one of the options…
Same for sift-tab settings – make it a player-adjustable setting. Even better: Allow a different setting for each tileset.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-14 09:39:45
April 14 2018 09:36 GMT
#54
Not a fan of putting Transistor in their. I don't mind watching it, but I hate playing on that map with anything but Zerg. Oh well that's what vetos are for. I'd much rather have seen them put in Sparkle tbh. Might not be as balanced, but you play a completely different game of Starcraft on their compared to any other map.

So ladder is red vs blue only now? That sucks. I was always a big fan of random colors in BW. You could change between green vs red and random colors anyway, so why force everyone into rvb?

But at least they are still working on the game. It would be nice to get another development update. I'm pretty sure that the 2v2 crowd already left, but I think it's about time that they expand MM beyond 2v2. I'd also love to see letter ranks back. I guess "Frontier" league will be around throughout the first year.
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4529 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-14 11:06:28
April 14 2018 11:06 GMT
#55
So did the red vs blue colours get reverted?

I was looking forward to it, because I've never been able to spot dropships on the minimap very well (colorblind which makes red not stand out very well), but I'm not getting red vs blue in-game currently.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4448 Posts
April 14 2018 13:58 GMT
#56
Sure, profiles load faster but my match history is blank after playing a dozen or so games and the APM counter is still completely useless (showing 143,000 APM).Profiles were better before patch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
inFeZa
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia556 Posts
April 14 2018 14:16 GMT
#57
On April 14 2018 20:06 Liquid`Ret wrote:
So did the red vs blue colours get reverted?

I was looking forward to it, because I've never been able to spot dropships on the minimap very well (colorblind which makes red not stand out very well), but I'm not getting red vs blue in-game currently.


Yeah it's Red Blue - shift tab still toggles it to teal red as well
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7023 Posts
April 14 2018 14:23 GMT
#58
On April 14 2018 22:58 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Sure, profiles load faster but my match history is blank after playing a dozen or so games and the APM counter is still completely useless (showing 143,000 APM).Profiles were better before patch.

i ask myself why people care about that profile loading faster if the information that is showed is totally useless ? ^^
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4529 Posts
April 14 2018 15:12 GMT
#59
On April 14 2018 23:16 inFeZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 20:06 Liquid`Ret wrote:
So did the red vs blue colours get reverted?

I was looking forward to it, because I've never been able to spot dropships on the minimap very well (colorblind which makes red not stand out very well), but I'm not getting red vs blue in-game currently.


Yeah it's Red Blue - shift tab still toggles it to teal red as well


Yeah it's great. Only seems to be the case on some maps though. Had a few longinus games and there it wasn't Red vs Blue
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KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1776 Posts
April 14 2018 20:05 GMT
#60
did 1.2.5 come with a new background image? + Show Spoiler +
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