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RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
April 13 2017 09:41 GMT
#41
My first favourite progamer was Bisu, but honestly it seems like he is way too high. I'd rate Best over Bisu.
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
Drakorb
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom5 Posts
April 13 2017 10:07 GMT
#42
just not at the cost of his wrists...


What's up with JD's wrists? Have I been out of the loop for something?
CUTtheCBC
Profile Joined December 2016
Canada91 Posts
April 14 2017 09:34 GMT
#43
go mini
Brood War's Back, YEA!
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
April 14 2017 10:01 GMT
#44
On April 13 2017 19:07 Drakorb wrote:
Show nested quote +
just not at the cost of his wrists...


What's up with JD's wrists? Have I been out of the loop for something?

He had them checked and his right wrist is not in good condition, he even stopped playing BW for some time (2 weeks?). He went to therapist to get massages and stuff.
#FPPS
CuckFapitalism
Profile Joined December 2016
22 Posts
April 14 2017 21:08 GMT
#45
I hope Bisu can live up to the hype you have given him.
joeyjameson
Profile Joined March 2017
37 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-15 00:32:38
April 15 2017 00:30 GMT
#46
Frustrated to see how low jaedong has fallen. JD would set the tone for micro and you could see how all the Korean pros act as though he his the alpha In televised booth games, jaedong was the post boxer GOAT imo that could completely hole-in-one triple-double (sc equivalent) any top pro from KR on a good day with about 12 muta and that is it, every post 2006 game has been set by JDs controlling the Finest points of metagame. But now vs players like flash we never see the ace match player which I assume he still has inside him but does not display for western or American audience? An intrigue into Jaedongss player psyche is in order but I consider him to be the Michael Jordan of broodwar and not flash so it is too bad we can't see him stomp over players like Ssak best light and these other people who used to be his B list or rubber matches he could beat in any happy hour match back in 06-09. If foreigners could 1v1 Korean pros I WoULd match JD 30 days a month just for practice but he doesn't appear to have any A game card in his pocket and neither does bisu or flash now. These for supposedly being the absolute best in the world back when broodwar had one of the biggest player bases online of any videogame its strange they can't reclaim those tom Brady federer moments in an average publicity tournament like ASL when there is nothing better in the bw scene today. MosT Tl readers from America and other nations would like to see what these guys can bring to a keyboard cause I get frustrated watching supposed professionals half ass in streams and tourneys.. Its time I got me some windows so I can enter the action the current starcraft bw GOAT title is so easily ready for the taking and personally in Korea I wanna see JD stomp out the other Seoul players in s. Korea. The new thing in brood war should be a world cup or a league that mixes Americans and Koreans to see which country is legitimately best in bw and compete for an osl or Maurice podoloff style trophy after. I think both nations have the pllayer base to support item Maybe it'll come in remastered but the original honestly doesbt even need changing the players just should get more focus and realistic
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-15 04:11:36
April 15 2017 04:11 GMT
#47
On April 15 2017 09:30 joeyjameson wrote:
[...]But now vs players like flash we never see the ace match player which I assume he still has inside him but does not display




That is ace match JD skills to me. (game 1)

On April 15 2017 09:30 joeyjameson wrote:
The new thing in brood war should be a world cup or a league that mixes Americans and Koreans to see which country is legitimately best in bw


Korea has always been the best country by far in BW I don't understand what you are asking for?
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-15 04:30:43
April 15 2017 04:30 GMT
#48
The new thing in brood war should be a world cup or a league that mixes Americans and Koreans to see which country is legitimately best in bw

Uh, yes.. this is definitely a contest.

Boo, why is Sea 4th? He was the finalist of the last one...

Power Ranking:
On EffOrt: he has also been showing the curse of every CJ Entus player which is choking when it matters

Who are these CJ Entus players exactly?

Also I don't agree with the assessment of Rain. He's improved a ton and plays smart but his performance in ATB was quite disappointing. I'm not looking at stats but I remember being a bit disappointed, he could have done better imo.

Also, Mini hype!!!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51032 Posts
April 15 2017 05:52 GMT
#49
its more on the histroy of CJ as a team and its players being fantastic on paper but never actually pulling it off outside of some rare exceptions
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10322 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-15 06:07:20
April 15 2017 06:02 GMT
#50
On April 15 2017 09:30 joeyjameson wrote:
Frustrated to see how low jaedong has fallen...

Can't tell if trolling or legitimately you don't know what you don't know.

There is no country that can compete with Korea's talent in BW. China would be second well before America. Other nations have more consistently successful top players than America, for example Russia, Ukraine, Poland, etc.

As far as Jaedong being Jordan, Jordan didn't lose 3 of 4 finals (or something like that) appearances to some other entity that wouldn't be more "Jordan." I think you're letting your fanaticism cloud your judgment.

Also, please make your posts easier to read x(
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-15 06:04:39
April 15 2017 06:03 GMT
#51
On April 15 2017 09:30 joeyjameson wrote:
league that mixes Americans and Koreans to see which country is legitimately best in bw

Why USA though? The best current BW foreigner players are from Europe, not USA... And no, no one can match Korean ex-pros. Unless his name is Sziky and the opponent is Doctor K

Edit: oh I totally forgot about China. Thanks Jealous.
#FPPS
joeyjameson
Profile Joined March 2017
37 Posts
April 15 2017 16:44 GMT
#52
Well its difficult to say which country's superior in broodwar yes the Koreans have some good players but they cluster themselves in leagues where they only play each other so whose to know if the USA couldn't put up a better player pool from time to time, its the equivalent of the ball playing keep away but in sc, where American can't really join their lan an things, china Poland etc have some ok players I guess but none really superior to USA talent even USA b iccup ranks. I think JD was the Jordan Of bw as in verifiable most talented
joeyjameson
Profile Joined March 2017
37 Posts
April 15 2017 16:48 GMT
#53
I think USA = Korea in ability but korea more serious than USA in player competing to train each other and helping one another out and organizing cash prize leagues
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
April 15 2017 16:53 GMT
#54
rofl there's not a single player outside of Korea than can compete with even "semi-pro's". It's why Koreans are generally banned from partaking in foreigner (everyone aside from Koreans) events.

You know foreigners (can) play on the same server as the top pros do right?
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-15 17:21:38
April 15 2017 17:20 GMT
#55
On April 16 2017 01:44 joeyjameson wrote:
Well its difficult to say which country's superior in broodwar yes the Koreans have some good players but they cluster themselves in leagues where they only play each other so whose to know if the USA couldn't put up a better player pool from time to time


USA sent their best players more than once to Korea to test their skills and everytime they realized they were nowhere close. (no disrespect to these players, took balls to do so). At first wasnt entirely sure if trolling or not but now I can clearly see you just lack knowledge about the bw scene hehe.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1770 Posts
April 15 2017 18:09 GMT
#56
Thanks for these power ranks, they always give a good sense of the competition and a bit more of insight which makes it more exciting. Good stuff!
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10322 Posts
April 15 2017 18:36 GMT
#57
On April 16 2017 01:44 joeyjameson wrote:
Well its difficult to say which country's superior in broodwar

whose to know if the USA couldn't put up a better player pool from time to time

American can't really join their lan an things

china Poland etc have some ok players I guess but none really superior to USA talent even USA b iccup ranks

I think JD was the Jordan Of bw as in verifiable most talented

You couldn't possibly be more incorrect. This is classic jingoism that clouds judgment.

Verifiable? How so?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
April 16 2017 04:16 GMT
#58
Love the power ranks. Thanks for the read.

Super pumped for ASL 3!!!
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2399 Posts
April 20 2017 00:57 GMT
#59
On April 16 2017 02:20 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 01:44 joeyjameson wrote:
Well its difficult to say which country's superior in broodwar yes the Koreans have some good players but they cluster themselves in leagues where they only play each other so whose to know if the USA couldn't put up a better player pool from time to time


USA sent their best players more than once to Korea to test their skills and everytime they realized they were nowhere close. (no disrespect to these players, took balls to do so). At first wasnt entirely sure if trolling or not but now I can clearly see you just lack knowledge about the bw scene hehe.


NoNy was rumored to be doing great in estro.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 21 2017 03:14 GMT
#60
Free above Stork lol wut? JK I know Free is topping Fish but he keeps losing on TV and looking meh.
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