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On April 03 2017 22:53 Routa wrote:
Predictions:
Group A: Shuttle and Soulkey
Group B: Effort and Shine
Group C: Bisu and Light
Group D: Rain and hero
Group E: GuemChi and Stork
Group F: Hyun and Movie
Group B and C are nuts, group F feels like its the weakest.
No way Light is getting out of this group.
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Ragnorok[Valkryie] created Taebak mountains.
LatíAs created Demian. 2 different people.
So which one is it? The OP is wrong about this. It's important to give the credit to the correct person.
Anyways, this is gonna be exciting!
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SK, Mong
Effort, Shine
Mini, Light (Light only needs to train TvP)
Rain, Hero
GG EMO, Pusan
Last, Movie
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On April 03 2017 21:55 Heyoka wrote:
my boy ggaemo gonna give some upsets
edit: iammang is terrible but at least its not cuteangel
cuteangel rofl. Never forget.
I hope to see Snow defend a hydra bust from Shine with shuttle/reaver.
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On April 04 2017 03:21 L1ghtning wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2017 21:55 Heyoka wrote:
my boy ggaemo gonna give some upsets
edit: iammang is terrible but at least its not cuteangel cuteangel rofl. Never forget. I hope to see Snow defend a hydra bust from Shine with shuttle/reaver.
Ooh, taking it back old school. <3 That would be lovely to see, but to be honest Snow's group just makes me feel dejected. I wanted to see more of him this season, but his group is just dumb. He's going up against goddamned Effort, free, and Shine. Unless someone has secret knowledge about Snow's performance on the Fish server these days, I would probably bet against him in every game in the group.
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Quick question, when a new map like Camelot gets announced for ASL, does Fish end up adopting it for ladder right away or do pro have to find scrims with fellow pros to practice the new maps? Or has this map been around forever so its not an issue
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On April 04 2017 03:50 lestye wrote:
Quick question, when a new map like Camelot gets announced for ASL, does Fish end up adopting it for ladder right away or do pro have to find scrims with fellow pros to practice the new maps? Or has this map been around forever so its not an issue
Follow-up question to this: Where can we non-Koreans download the latest and proper versions of the maps the ASL is using? I remember how Taebaek for instance went through several iterations.
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On April 04 2017 03:09 JungleTerrain wrote:
Ragnorok[Valkryie] created Taebak mountains.
LatíAs created Demian. 2 different people.
So which one is it? The OP is wrong about this. It's important to give the credit to the correct person.
Anyways, this is gonna be exciting!
My bad, didn't intend to mislead. This is Ragnarok[Valkyrie], who did both Taekak and Overwatch
I just noticed on his Naver blog page that he (Ragnarok[Valkyrie]) released an update to Demian that was used for the last ASL, so assumed he created it. He likely revised it to v2.01. Fixing the top post now
On April 04 2017 03:54 Aylear wrote:
Follow-up question to this: Where can we non-Koreans download the latest and proper versions of the maps the ASL is using? I remember how Taebaek for instance went through several iterations. I'm afraid we'd just to visit the Afreeca page (http://afreecatv.com/afstar1) to find notices of map changes. That's where we/I discovered them in previous seasons
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Group B is a tough one to predict because they are all strong in their respective matchups. It can be Effort and Snow advancing or Snow and Free, or Shine and Free, etc. Group F I don't care who advances as long as it's Movie. Larva might be pretty tough for both Movie and Last.
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Lots of new faces here. Unfortunately I see neither Nal-ra or NaDa made it in...
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I really like the look of Camelot, hope there will be some great games on it!
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I just want Shine to qualify so he can beat Bisu later
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The map Camelot is made by LatiAs. Just checked.
Here he even has it on his post as one of his maps.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/504139-map-my-map-compilation
Don't know why Ragnarok[Valkyrie] has it on his blog. He seems to be the person that tournament organizers go to to check the map is ready for use. He sometimes makes some edits to the map for tournament play, as in Demian, which I'm pretty sure it was him that changed the mineral lines from version 2.0 to 2.01.
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The new map is from LatiAs, not Ragnarok. I wish Ragnarok were able to provide this quality for once...
But it seems like they finally settled on a skilled map maker who actually deserves the attention.
Congratulations to LatiAs. I hope we see more of Silvery Waves next.
So it is essentially a totally different map.
You know, a map is not mostly its tileset!
You can also get it directly from BWMN. It is a slightly outdated version though (1.3, not 1.4, haven't checked the exact differences yet), so you best get it from the Naver link. You have to click here for DL:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/uH1FxEt.jpg)
Don't know why Ragnarok[Valkyrie] has it on his blog. He seems to be the person that tournament organizers go to to check the map is ready for use. He sometimes makes some edits to the map for tournament play, as in Demian, which I'm pretty sure it was him that changed the mineral lines from version 2.0 to 2.01.
Is that even Ragnarok's personal page? Maybe he is just doing map news...
I daresay LatiAs is more qualified to check Ragnarok's maps than the other way around... But I guess LatiAs is not always available for edits, due to his military service.
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Camelot is my own map, Demian too.
There was no help from Ragnarok[Valkyrie], both Demian 2.01 and Camelot. He didn't participate in ASL after Taebaek and Overwatch.
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Hi LatiAs :D
Could you upload the newest version of Demian, too?
Edit: Found it!
Maybe you could also update both maps on BWMN, though.
EDIT 2: Main changes from Camelot 1.3. to 1.4. are:
- Tighter middle path, so overall more distinct division of the map into different pathways
- Overlord spots added near the middle path
- Added a reduced 10th mineral patch to the mains (and some minor resource position changes all around the map)
- I also found some bugs on 1.3. which got fixed not.
So definitely make sure to get the version from Naver for now!
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On April 04 2017 03:50 lestye wrote:
Quick question, when a new map like Camelot gets announced for ASL, does Fish end up adopting it for ladder right away or do pro have to find scrims with fellow pros to practice the new maps? Or has this map been around forever so its not an issue
you can ladder on FMP if you wanted to on fish - ladder mode is just one vs one, no map restrictions.
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EPT
to Aylear and others for adding 
Camelot![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/commons/images/e/e4/-STL1-%282%29Oxide_1.04.jpg)
