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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
On December 02 2016 21:39 ICanFlyLow wrote: Wasnt this guy all anti afreeca and scolded the players who streamed for Cash? Now he does it too.. He was never anti afreeca and he never scolded players who streamed for cash. All he said was that some of the BJs made progamers look bad. Which some do. | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
edit - didn't see above post. thx | ||
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onlystar
United States971 Posts
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Trozz
Canada3456 Posts
Or bow out like July did? Quite unexpected. | ||
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byj
495 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On October 31 2013 02:42 OpticalShot wrote: I feel like these doubly-translated threads are baits for the direct translators to come out and clarify... well I'm baited. Here's the original Korean text and my direct translation for the streaming part. + Show Spoiler [Original Korean] + - κ·Έλλ μν΄ν μ μλ€μ κ°μΈλ°©μ‘μ ν΅ν΄μ ν¬λ€μ μ°Ύκ³ μμμμ. μΈκΈ°κ° μ₯λμ΄ μλλλ°, λΆλ½μ§λ μμμ? βΆ μ λ κ°μΈλ°©μ‘μ λν΄μ κ΅μ₯ν λΆμ μ μ΄κ±°λ μ. λ°©μ‘μμ λ§κ°μ§λ λͺ¨μ΅μ 보λκΉ μνκΉμμ. μ‘°μ μ¬κ±΄κ³Ό κ΄λ ¨λ μ μλ λ°©μ‘μ νμμμ. κ·Έλ¬λ λλμ± κ°μΈλ°©μ‘μ λν΄ μ’μ μΈμμ λ°κΈ°κ° μ΄λ ΅μ£ . μ λ νλ‘κ²μ΄λ¨Έλ‘μμ νλΌμ΄λκ° κ°ν΄μ. κ΄μ€λ€μ΄ ν λμ© μ€λ κ²μ΄ μλλΌ λͺ λ§ λͺ μ© μμ ννΈλ₯Ό νμμμ. κ·Έλ° ν¬λ€μ΄ μ’μνλ κ²μ κΆκ·Ήμ μΌλ‘ κ·Έ μ μμ νλ μ΄μμμ. κ°μΈλ°©μ‘μ νλ μ¬λλ€ μ€μ μΌλΆλ κ·Έλ° νμμ λͺ¨λ κΉ¨λ λμμ, ν¬λ€μ λμΌλ‘ 보λ νλμ ν΄μ. λΆλͺ ν λνμ₯μμ 보면 μ λ§ λ©μ©‘νκ±°λ μ. κ·Έλ°λ° λμ μν΄ κ·Έλ κ²κΉμ§ λ³νλ€λ μ μ΄ λ¬΄μ² μμ¬μμ. μμν μλλ©΄ λͺ¨λ₯ΌκΉ λμ μν λ°©μ‘μ νμ§ μμμΌλ©΄ μ’κ² μ΄μ. λ¬Όλ‘ μ κ·Έλ° μ μλ€λ μμ§λ§μ. - Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them? βΆ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6641 Posts
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Me_ToKa
Bulgaria309 Posts
On December 02 2016 17:30 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: they guy that hated afreeca and criticized other expros for doing it ^^ Yep.. Now I wanna see his face when he is accepting donations and bitching for more. Maybe we can see him without eyebrows too.. :D | ||
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noname_
466 Posts
On December 03 2016 05:56 byj wrote: Think people should just reread his statement about streaming... + Show Spoiler + On October 31 2013 02:42 OpticalShot wrote: I feel like these doubly-translated threads are baits for the direct translators to come out and clarify... well I'm baited. Here's the original Korean text and my direct translation for the streaming part. + Show Spoiler [Original Korean] + - κ·Έλλ μν΄ν μ μλ€μ κ°μΈλ°©μ‘μ ν΅ν΄μ ν¬λ€μ μ°Ύκ³ μμμμ. μΈκΈ°κ° μ₯λμ΄ μλλλ°, λΆλ½μ§λ μμμ? βΆ μ λ κ°μΈλ°©μ‘μ λν΄μ κ΅μ₯ν λΆμ μ μ΄κ±°λ μ. λ°©μ‘μμ λ§κ°μ§λ λͺ¨μ΅μ 보λκΉ μνκΉμμ. μ‘°μ μ¬κ±΄κ³Ό κ΄λ ¨λ μ μλ λ°©μ‘μ νμμμ. κ·Έλ¬λ λλμ± κ°μΈλ°©μ‘μ λν΄ μ’μ μΈμμ λ°κΈ°κ° μ΄λ ΅μ£ . μ λ νλ‘κ²μ΄λ¨Έλ‘μμ νλΌμ΄λκ° κ°ν΄μ. κ΄μ€λ€μ΄ ν λμ© μ€λ κ²μ΄ μλλΌ λͺ λ§ λͺ μ© μμ ννΈλ₯Ό νμμμ. κ·Έλ° ν¬λ€μ΄ μ’μνλ κ²μ κΆκ·Ήμ μΌλ‘ κ·Έ μ μμ νλ μ΄μμμ. κ°μΈλ°©μ‘μ νλ μ¬λλ€ μ€μ μΌλΆλ κ·Έλ° νμμ λͺ¨λ κΉ¨λ λμμ, ν¬λ€μ λμΌλ‘ 보λ νλμ ν΄μ. λΆλͺ ν λνμ₯μμ 보면 μ λ§ λ©μ©‘νκ±°λ μ. κ·Έλ°λ° λμ μν΄ κ·Έλ κ²κΉμ§ λ³νλ€λ μ μ΄ λ¬΄μ² μμ¬μμ. μμν μλλ©΄ λͺ¨λ₯ΌκΉ λμ μν λ°©μ‘μ νμ§ μμμΌλ©΄ μ’κ² μ΄μ. λ¬Όλ‘ μ κ·Έλ° μ μλ€λ μμ§λ§μ. - Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them? βΆ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that. Don`t all progamers do it for the sole purpose of money anyway? I`d bet. On December 03 2016 15:50 Me_ToKa wrote: Yep.. Now I wanna see his face when he is accepting donations and bitching for more. Maybe we can see him without eyebrows too.. :D :DDDD | ||
prech
United States2948 Posts
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HaN-
France1920 Posts
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On December 03 2016 18:19 HaN- wrote: Who's next ? :D Only Fantasy at this point I believe. | ||
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IntoTheStorm
116 Posts
On December 03 2016 18:19 HaN- wrote: Who's next ? :D Fanta and jangbi, I hope. | ||
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marwin
Ukraine111 Posts
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toriak
Slovakia477 Posts
On December 04 2016 17:25 marwin wrote: Shinee vs Strok right now how do u know its stork/strok ? | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2042 Posts
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marwin
Ukraine111 Posts
i(-.-)i Here's vod http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/15803494 starts @ 03:01:05 | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
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Gamlet
Ukraine336 Posts
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byj
495 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + A while back, I had a slight misunderstanding with the Brood War community. I was trying to criticize two specific groups of BW streamers β those who had been convicted of matchfixing, and those who had become a βstream monkeyβ ready to humiliate themselves and others nonstop just for the cash grab β but my words were quoted out of context; people thought I was looking down on all BW streamers, something I have never done. I tried to clear it up back then, but I know a lot of people, including some ex-BW pros, didnβt receive the memo. I hope I can clear it up for good this time during my first few weeks on Afreeca." | ||
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