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MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
November 26 2016 21:49 GMT
#41
It's great to see BW slowly making a comeback. Can anyone link back to 'when' the revival of SC:BW started? Because I still recall when everyone thought SC2 would be the future, seeing as Kespa ditched BW for SC2, but then somehow through the support of fans and sponsors BW made a comeback and now it seems to be growing once again.
The world wants to be deceived
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
November 26 2016 21:57 GMT
#42
On November 27 2016 06:49 MoonyD wrote:
It's great to see BW slowly making a comeback. Can anyone link back to 'when' the revival of SC:BW started? Because I still recall when everyone thought SC2 would be the future, seeing as Kespa ditched BW for SC2, but then somehow through the support of fans and sponsors BW made a comeback and now it seems to be growing once again.

There was no revival because Brood War never went away.

Some key moments in the last 5 years:

Bisu began streaming Brood War on Afreeca in September 2013
Bisu vs hero SSL2014 finals back in early 2014.
EffOrt streaming on Afreeca in 2015.
Flash streaming on Afreeca early this year.

And all the recent notable tournaments (esp the OGN SSL2015):
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Leagues/Notable_Tournaments
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
November 26 2016 22:21 GMT
#43
just watched all the games, man those games were sick, especially JD vs Bisu on destination, god that was NUTS
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1717 Posts
November 27 2016 02:01 GMT
#44
On November 25 2016 12:28 noname_ wrote:
Nice read! I always enjoyed these kind of battle reports!
On the Flash vs Bisu game:
The early push was a probing attack, if Bisu would have taken the 3rd base earlier instead going for a robo and 3gates, it could have worked.
The attack which hit right when the arbiter came out was done insanely well, the mine laying, the pushing, turret building was all done great. It turned out eventually that protoss infratsturcture is cheaper, and you can`t go head to head with production facilites with the protoss in these kind of situations at least.

I honestly think that Flash had it in the bag. But he did the "cute" vulture run by and let his tanks die. Tanks are the backbone of a push and can't be replenished right away. I'm pretty sure more than 9/10 times, Flash would have closed that out.
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11776 Posts
November 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#45
On November 27 2016 11:01 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2016 12:28 noname_ wrote:
Nice read! I always enjoyed these kind of battle reports!
On the Flash vs Bisu game:
The early push was a probing attack, if Bisu would have taken the 3rd base earlier instead going for a robo and 3gates, it could have worked.
The attack which hit right when the arbiter came out was done insanely well, the mine laying, the pushing, turret building was all done great. It turned out eventually that protoss infratsturcture is cheaper, and you can`t go head to head with production facilites with the protoss in these kind of situations at least.

I honestly think that Flash had it in the bag. But he did the "cute" vulture run by and let his tanks die. Tanks are the backbone of a push and can't be replenished right away. I'm pretty sure more than 9/10 times, Flash would have closed that out.

I think what happened was that FlaSh knew the push doomed (there was a grand total of like 3 tanks left) and decided to sidestep to deal some eco damage.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4182 Posts
November 27 2016 02:39 GMT
#46
On November 27 2016 11:37 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2016 11:01 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
On November 25 2016 12:28 noname_ wrote:
Nice read! I always enjoyed these kind of battle reports!
On the Flash vs Bisu game:
The early push was a probing attack, if Bisu would have taken the 3rd base earlier instead going for a robo and 3gates, it could have worked.
The attack which hit right when the arbiter came out was done insanely well, the mine laying, the pushing, turret building was all done great. It turned out eventually that protoss infratsturcture is cheaper, and you can`t go head to head with production facilites with the protoss in these kind of situations at least.

I honestly think that Flash had it in the bag. But he did the "cute" vulture run by and let his tanks die. Tanks are the backbone of a push and can't be replenished right away. I'm pretty sure more than 9/10 times, Flash would have closed that out.

I think what happened was that FlaSh knew the push doomed (there was a grand total of like 3 tanks left) and decided to sidestep to deal some eco damage.


I think even if the vultures stayed it wouldn't have made a difference it was only 3. The key was right first when Flash attacked the zealot bomb took out like 3 tanks. If his turrets had finished 3 secs earlier he would have held.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-27 02:54:36
November 27 2016 02:54 GMT
#47
On November 27 2016 11:39 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2016 11:37 c3rberUs wrote:
On November 27 2016 11:01 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
On November 25 2016 12:28 noname_ wrote:
Nice read! I always enjoyed these kind of battle reports!
On the Flash vs Bisu game:
The early push was a probing attack, if Bisu would have taken the 3rd base earlier instead going for a robo and 3gates, it could have worked.
The attack which hit right when the arbiter came out was done insanely well, the mine laying, the pushing, turret building was all done great. It turned out eventually that protoss infratsturcture is cheaper, and you can`t go head to head with production facilites with the protoss in these kind of situations at least.

I honestly think that Flash had it in the bag. But he did the "cute" vulture run by and let his tanks die. Tanks are the backbone of a push and can't be replenished right away. I'm pretty sure more than 9/10 times, Flash would have closed that out.

I think what happened was that FlaSh knew the push doomed (there was a grand total of like 3 tanks left) and decided to sidestep to deal some eco damage.


I think even if the vultures stayed it wouldn't have made a difference it was only 3. The key was right first when Flash attacked the zealot bomb took out like 3 tanks. If his turrets had finished 3 secs earlier he would have held.

Yeah, FlaSh probably thought he should do some eco-damage to hinder the followup counter Bisu could do (he didn't have any other option than to die there or die later to a large army.)
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 27 2016 17:23 GMT
#48
Fml, how did I miss this... Gonna watch the VOD now. Tastosis commentary, sweet!
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
November 27 2016 21:32 GMT
#49
I just saw the vod. Enjoyed every single second and minute of this.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19385 Posts
November 28 2016 02:11 GMT
#50
Bisu threw game 1 versus Jaedong (for a second I thought Jaedong was back in form), but then Bisu completely outplayed him in games 2 and 3. Flash played very poorly all around and I'm very surprised he almost placed 4th.
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 03:42:44
November 30 2016 02:28 GMT
#51
OH MY GOSH I'M SO HAPPY MY SCREEN NAME JUST BECAME VERY HAPPY :D SCREW HOMEWORK SCREW SLEEP!!! MY SIGNATURE IS EVER RELEVANT EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN UNTOUCHED FOR YEARS!!!! <3

also it's so hard not reading spoilers

also even though it's just for sponsors, it's weird seeing kt on Bisu

On November 28 2016 11:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Bisu threw game 1 versus Jaedong (for a second I thought Jaedong was back in form), but then Bisu completely outplayed him in games 2 and 3. Flash played very poorly all around and I'm very surprised he almost placed 4th.

i stopped reading after the 1st sentence and i thought bisu lost the series. but yeah bisu's so on point :D his 2nd game was unreal
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 30 2016 13:35 GMT
#52
I feel like they need more stuff like this. I'll try to catch the VODs.
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 06 2016 01:54 GMT
#53
Does the Afreeca player work for you guys live? I all see when I try to watch is a blank screen.
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