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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
September 01 2016 10:48 GMT
#881
flash vs jaedong/424 played today from 1:04 from korhal yt youtu.be
TAKK.borg
Profile Joined December 2013
Croatia93 Posts
September 01 2016 11:08 GMT
#882
Wow that 424 guy is so bad. Easy 6-0 for flash.
Not sure if he was trying some different strat or smthng...but it looked bad.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6820 Posts
September 01 2016 11:15 GMT
#883
Weird jiko managed to win flash,in theory he is more trained now,are we sure he is jd? Qlso jiko internet was KT and 424 is Broad
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 11:42:09
September 01 2016 11:15 GMT
#884
To quote what Mong said after playing 424 "I don't know if its Jaedong because I never played Jaedong when he was active but whoever 424 is he plays like someone who is rusty. Like a person who is not at their full skill yet." I agree about this from watching both Jiko and 424 games. There are a lot of moments where he plays really bad but I also see moments of brilliance that reminds me really of Jaedong.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 12:29:16
September 01 2016 12:25 GMT
#885
The Koreans seem to think it is him otherwise they would not play such marathon sessions vs him like Last did. And I doubt a non-pro would play such >8 hours marathon sessions without any real breaks at such a level. Even Last was very tired at the end. After the 35th game Last cannot believe that 424 still keeps joining his games.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
September 01 2016 16:36 GMT
#886
On September 01 2016 20:08 TAKK.borg wrote:
Wow that 424 guy is so bad. Easy 6-0 for flash.
Not sure if he was trying some different strat or smthng...but it looked bad.


Koreans are speculating that jaedong may be purposely doing a really risky build conssistently. Muta ling without any sunks. and also fs is heavily favored towards terrans so its no wonder jd loses to the best player atm on FS
Life is just life
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 16:43:26
September 01 2016 16:43 GMT
#887
LOL at thinking 424 is bad. He's still rank C consistently and got B at one point as well if I remember correctly. And of course I'm going beyond my area of expertise (which is none) but there's quite a few reasons why Jaedong isn't owning everybody left and right just yet in my opinion:

- He played Sc2 for quite a long time

- He's playing against the best of the best in a time of terran domination (FS + mech)

- Maybe he's trying something new as Shinokuki mentioned
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 17:05:10
September 01 2016 17:03 GMT
#888
On September 02 2016 01:36 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 20:08 TAKK.borg wrote:
Wow that 424 guy is so bad. Easy 6-0 for flash.
Not sure if he was trying some different strat or smthng...but it looked bad.


Koreans are speculating that jaedong may be purposely doing a really risky build conssistently. Muta ling without any sunks. and also fs is heavily favored towards terrans so its no wonder jd loses to the best player atm on FS

The games with the Jiko account he made 5 sunks at nat so makes me think its just him experimenting without sunks.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
September 01 2016 17:18 GMT
#889
On September 02 2016 01:36 Shinokuki wrote:
Koreans are speculating that jaedong may be purposely doing a really risky build conssistently. Muta ling without any sunks.


Like this build? + Show Spoiler +
JD seems to take his gas too late.

Calendaraka Foxhan
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 17:35:53
September 01 2016 17:35 GMT
#890
tbo, after watching the games, the low count of wins doesn't look upsetting.
Most matches look more like training than like real matches, with a lot of early ggs
Wins were pretty brutal on the other hand.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
September 01 2016 17:50 GMT
#891
On September 02 2016 02:35 letian wrote:
tbo, after watching the games, the low count of wins doesn't look upsetting.
Most matches look more like training than like real matches, with a lot of early ggs
Wins were pretty brutal on the other hand.


Exactly what I see. JaeDong takes many risks and force him self into crazy micro-multitask situations that require perfect mechanics. This way he'll get into shape much quicker than playing slow-defensive games. (at least that's what I hope:D)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 18:12:33
September 01 2016 17:54 GMT
#892
On September 02 2016 01:36 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 20:08 TAKK.borg wrote:
Wow that 424 guy is so bad. Easy 6-0 for flash.
Not sure if he was trying some different strat or smthng...but it looked bad.


Koreans are speculating that jaedong may be purposely doing a really risky build conssistently. Muta ling without any sunks. and also fs is heavily favored towards terrans so its no wonder jd loses to the best player atm on FS



That was my thought too, the way he was stubbornly pushing with muta ling seemed like he was training it. I think he knows that his mid game harass isn't good enough and he really needs to improve it to play at higher level and beat S class terran.

We used to watch jaedong on tv with his build orders trained. Jaedong's strats are extremely hard to execute, he has always been very greedy in the early game to maximize his macro and outspeed his opponent. Actually anyone who spent some times studying his bo and try to copy them would realize on how advanced and well thought they are, but at the first mistake you miserably fail.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 18:59:48
September 01 2016 18:59 GMT
#893
some people posting in this topic just cant judge gameplay accurately all they see is someone getting rekt and thats it.
unable to see whats really going on or recognize certain styles of players or risky strategies
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 20:11:18
September 01 2016 20:10 GMT
#894
JD has always been walking a thin line and that is one of the reasons his matches were so entertaining to watch.
Watch Snow vs Jaedong PDPOP MSL RO8.
Forcewater
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
September 01 2016 23:25 GMT
#895
Uploaded the games vs Last in source quality:
+ Show Spoiler +
Part 1
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ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 23:55:12
September 01 2016 23:54 GMT
#896
On September 02 2016 02:18 HaN- wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 02 2016 01:36 Shinokuki wrote:
Koreans are speculating that jaedong may be purposely doing a really risky build conssistently. Muta ling without any sunks.


Like this build? + Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u881iJgo3AI
JD seems to take his gas too late.


JD goes 3 mostly 3 hatch, Zero has used this build back in the day in Match Point against Flash (theres a Day 9 analysis iirc) and it's 2 hatch muta->double expo while holding off Terran with pure Muta +1 carapace (he only had his early game lings, all the larva go for muta/drone/lurker until you drone up)
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
September 01 2016 23:59 GMT
#897
If this is JD really mass practicing...geez I'm excited. Feel shaky about Z since even Effort seems to be getting pummeled lately but man oh man if he can get back in to form...much more excited for him than any other oldschool BW player.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
WinterViewbot420
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
345 Posts
September 02 2016 03:41 GMT
#898
Flash: "I'm tired."
Last: "I'm tired."
Mind: "I'm tired."
Bisu: "Balloons?"

Jaedong: "C GAME GO"
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 07:55:25
September 02 2016 07:55 GMT
#899
On September 02 2016 12:41 WinterViewbot420 wrote:
Flash: "I'm tired."
Last: "I'm tired."
Mind: "I'm tired."
Bisu: "Balloons?"

Jaedong: "C GAME GO"

Terrans are tired,
Protoss want to fly,
And the only one practicing
Is the one we can't deny.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 08:30:13
September 02 2016 08:28 GMT
#900
I'm really happy seeing Jaedong mass gaming so much.. I mean his last 3 accounts had a lot of games and these do not even include those marathons like vs shinee or last (20-30 games) as only few games are registered as ladder.

Btw. who is hero[S.G]? (currently top1 fish)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
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