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MaTaAeRuKaNa
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States95 Posts
August 05 2016 03:40 GMT
#641
Just watched the Best vs. Jiko games. The games where Jiko went muta/scourge vs. corsair remind me a lot of Jaedong.
Luddite wrote: Tentacle monster: Basically a sunken colony with legs, and multiple tentacles to attack with. It gets bonus damage vs. large units and Japanese school girls.
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
August 05 2016 03:52 GMT
#642
As we're eliminating potential names -- Not sure how legit this is (i.e. if Photoshopped), but (Z)sAviOr said in an Afreeca chat that he's not "jiko"

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/344934/
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 04:14:38
August 05 2016 04:00 GMT
#643
On August 05 2016 12:52 prech wrote:
As we're eliminating potential names -- Not sure how legit this is (i.e. if Photoshopped), but (Z)sAviOr said in an Afreeca chat that he's not "jiko"

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/344934/


bwstreams.appspot.com shows that he did logged in yesterday

(and before some fool ask "wasn't he banned?", he is only banned from streaming BW on afreeca. he can still log in and stream other things if he wanted. And before that whole sc2 matchfixing furore began, he has already voluntarily close his stream down to move on with his life )
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 06:25:09
August 05 2016 06:23 GMT
#644
I can bet all my money that Jiko is Jaedong. This last series vs Best confirms it 100% as I've been studing Jaedong ZvP for many many years, incl. his extensive practice replay packs. Style he presented yesterday on CB is 100% same as one I've been studing, e.g fast 4th, sim city structure, offensive/defensive ling play, muta/scourge play and only ling/hydra/lurker/defiler play in late game. This is Jaedong, welcome back my favorite pro gamer.

Btw. what was the final result? I think I stopped watching at like 6:6 or so.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 05 2016 06:28 GMT
#645
On August 05 2016 15:23 kogeT wrote:
I can bet all my money that Jiko is Jaedong. This last series vs Best confirms it 100% as I've been studing Jaedong ZvP for many many years, incl. his extensive practice replay packs. Style he presented yesterday on CB is 100% same as one I've been studing, e.g fast 4th, sim city structure, offensive/defensive ling play, muta/scourge play and only ling/hydra/lurker/defiler play in late game. This is Jaedong, welcome back my favorite pro gamer.

Btw. what was the final result? I think I stopped watching at like 6:6 or so.

Not sure about the exact result but pretty confident that jiko won more than 50%
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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States924 Posts
August 05 2016 06:56 GMT
#646
On August 05 2016 15:23 kogeT wrote:
I can bet all my money that Jiko is Jaedong. This last series vs Best confirms it 100% as I've been studing Jaedong ZvP for many many years, incl. his extensive practice replay packs. Style he presented yesterday on CB is 100% same as one I've been studing, e.g fast 4th, sim city structure, offensive/defensive ling play, muta/scourge play and only ling/hydra/lurker/defiler play in late game. This is Jaedong, welcome back my favorite pro gamer.

Btw. what was the final result? I think I stopped watching at like 6:6 or so.


12:10 in favor of jiko
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mastakilla[Xp]
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany93 Posts
August 05 2016 07:09 GMT
#647
Do Best has a Youtube-channel? I know that Flash, Bisu and Larva have one... The afreeca tv app is too laggy.
And off topic: Do somenone know what Fantasy is doing? I would love to see him come back. At the end of the OGN/MBC BW era he was the best Terran.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
August 05 2016 07:11 GMT
#648
Speaking of Fantasy, whatever happened to Storku?
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
August 05 2016 07:23 GMT
#649
On August 05 2016 15:23 kogeT wrote:
I can bet all my money that Jiko is Jaedong. This last series vs Best confirms it 100% as I've been studing Jaedong ZvP for many many years, incl. his extensive practice replay packs. Style he presented yesterday on CB is 100% same as one I've been studing, e.g fast 4th, sim city structure, offensive/defensive ling play, muta/scourge play and only ling/hydra/lurker/defiler play in late game. This is Jaedong, welcome back my favorite pro gamer.

Btw. what was the final result? I think I stopped watching at like 6:6 or so.


Haha, love this. Reminds of what Artosis said in the ASL a bit ago about players having unique and very identifiable play styles.

I also love the fact that there's this mysterious Jiko zerg out there with a power level so high that it must be + Show Spoiler +
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Jaedong.
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MaTaAeRuKaNa
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States95 Posts
August 05 2016 08:08 GMT
#650
On August 05 2016 16:09 mastakilla[Xp] wrote:
Do Best has a Youtube-channel? I know that Flash, Bisu and Larva have one... The afreeca tv app is too laggy.
And off topic: Do somenone know what Fantasy is doing? I would love to see him come back. At the end of the OGN/MBC BW era he was the best Terran.


Fantasy retired I think during LOTV beta iirc. From what I remember he didn't have motivation to play SC2 anymore and just chose to do his military service.

Slightly unrelated but are there any arguments against Jiko being Effort?
Luddite wrote: Tentacle monster: Basically a sunken colony with legs, and multiple tentacles to attack with. It gets bonus damage vs. large units and Japanese school girls.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 08:17:35
August 05 2016 08:10 GMT
#651
On August 05 2016 17:08 MaTaAeRuKaNa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 16:09 mastakilla[Xp] wrote:
Do Best has a Youtube-channel? I know that Flash, Bisu and Larva have one... The afreeca tv app is too laggy.
And off topic: Do somenone know what Fantasy is doing? I would love to see him come back. At the end of the OGN/MBC BW era he was the best Terran.


Fantasy retired I think during LOTV beta iirc. From what I remember he didn't have motivation to play SC2 anymore and just chose to do his military service.

Slightly unrelated but are there any arguments against Jiko being Effort?


Yes, they played at the same time and effort has got different style in both ZvT and ZvP. For example effort prefers a more defensive, minimum units mid game based on muta micro and tactical aspects of the map, while Jaedong would rather likely make a bunch of units that actively threaten his opponent to gain some time to macro and tech up. Also, ZvP late game argument I mentioned before is something very JaeDong-ish - he would NEVER make ultralisks vs P in favour of ling/hydra/lurker/defiler (mb he would make them coming with huge adventage, but knowing Jaedong he would finish the game before he needs ultras). Has anyone seen an ultralisk from Jaedong yesterday?
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
August 05 2016 09:25 GMT
#652
is there a link to Best vs Jiko VODs anywhere? skimmed the thread didn't find any.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Sonny-
Profile Joined July 2016
47 Posts
August 05 2016 09:27 GMT
#653
On August 05 2016 16:09 mastakilla[Xp] wrote:
Do Best has a Youtube-channel? I know that Flash, Bisu and Larva have one... The afreeca tv app is too laggy.
And off topic: Do somenone know what Fantasy is doing? I would love to see him come back. At the end of the OGN/MBC BW era he was the best Terran.

What's Larva's channel?
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3175 Posts
August 05 2016 09:31 GMT
#654
On August 05 2016 15:56 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 15:23 kogeT wrote:
I can bet all my money that Jiko is Jaedong. This last series vs Best confirms it 100% as I've been studing Jaedong ZvP for many many years, incl. his extensive practice replay packs. Style he presented yesterday on CB is 100% same as one I've been studing, e.g fast 4th, sim city structure, offensive/defensive ling play, muta/scourge play and only ling/hydra/lurker/defiler play in late game. This is Jaedong, welcome back my favorite pro gamer.

Btw. what was the final result? I think I stopped watching at like 6:6 or so.


12:10 in favor of jiko


Bo23 unfair. It should have been Bo69
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 09:58:52
August 05 2016 09:50 GMT
#655
Vods from yesterday (Best vs Jaedong), starts 1:30:00. They played for 6 hours straight, no break.



https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
ndesktop
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Romania109 Posts
August 05 2016 10:10 GMT
#656
On August 05 2016 12:40 MaTaAeRuKaNa wrote:
Just watched the Best vs. Jiko games. The games where Jiko went muta/scourge vs. corsair remind me a lot of Jaedong.

Could be, but the game around 1:30 with ling/hydra/lurker/defiler/scourge is even more like JD. Either is the man himself, or the best JD clone in years.
Mine more minerals.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 10:37:16
August 05 2016 10:37 GMT
#657
Hope the vods are up on korhal.
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
August 05 2016 10:45 GMT
#658
On August 05 2016 18:50 kogeT wrote:
Vods from yesterday (Best vs Jaedong), starts 1:30:00. They played for 6 hours straight, no break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5393&v=7gQbb6fLo7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khMrYQUGifk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQf-ql81OzI



Where's the finish to that first vod? The second one starts a new game. oh my god I need closure.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
August 05 2016 11:15 GMT
#659
On August 05 2016 19:45 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 18:50 kogeT wrote:
Vods from yesterday (Best vs Jaedong), starts 1:30:00. They played for 6 hours straight, no break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5393&v=7gQbb6fLo7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khMrYQUGifk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQf-ql81OzI



Where's the finish to that first vod? The second one starts a new game. oh my god I need closure.

Yeah, just was going to ask the same thing.
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
August 05 2016 11:49 GMT
#660
On August 05 2016 15:23 kogeT wrote:
his extensive practice replay packs.


what? where did you get these from? what do you mean by extensive practice replay packs? you have 100-500+ replays of Jaedong progame years practice?
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