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2016 Afreeca Starleague announced - June-Sept - Page 7

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MarineCA1
Profile Joined June 2015
93 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 18:14:45
June 23 2016 06:36 GMT
#121
HerO vs Flash finals would be epic

EDIT: I meant Effort vs Flash
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 23 2016 06:55 GMT
#122
On June 23 2016 14:15 classicyellow83 wrote:
List of notable players that are participating in the prelims.
<Terrran>
1. Flash 2. Sea 3. Last 4. Mind
5. Sharp 6. Mong 7. sSak 8. HiyA
11. Piano 12. Rush 13. shiney 14. Icarus
15. Ample 16. Iris 17. Light

<Protoss>
1. Best 2. Shuttle 3. Kal 4. Movie
5. Free 6. Geumchi 7. sky 8. jaehoon
9. Tyson
*Free might not participate due to his wrist and his age(army).

<Zerg>
1. zero 2. hero 3. larva 4. Miso 5. Hoejja

expecting brutal prelims

Where is my name in terran list :o
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 23 2016 06:59 GMT
#123
On June 23 2016 15:55 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 14:15 classicyellow83 wrote:
List of notable players that are participating in the prelims.
<Terrran>
1. Flash 2. Sea 3. Last 4. Mind
5. Sharp 6. Mong 7. sSak 8. HiyA
11. Piano 12. Rush 13. shiney 14. Icarus
15. Ample 16. Iris 17. Light

<Protoss>
1. Best 2. Shuttle 3. Kal 4. Movie
5. Free 6. Geumchi 7. sky 8. jaehoon
9. Tyson
*Free might not participate due to his wrist and his age(army).

<Zerg>
1. zero 2. hero 3. larva 4. Miso 5. Hoejja

expecting brutal prelims

Where is my name in terran list :o


Haha you should be at no.1 instead of flash.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 07:50:18
June 23 2016 07:28 GMT
#124
On June 23 2016 15:36 MarineCA1 wrote:
HerO vs Flash finals would be epic

Flash is 11:4 against hero this month. He 4:1'ed hero yesterday.

Flash's stats this month so far[/b]
TvT 11:7(61.1%)
TvZ 39:8(83.0%)
TvP 30:22(57.7%)

Players Flash Played Against
TvZ - Effort 9:3, Hero 11:4, Larva 11:1, Zero 6:0, Hoejja 2:0
TvT - Sea 6:2, sSak 0:1, Mong 2:2, Rush:1:0, HiYa 2:1, Last 0:1
TvP - Best 8:14, Bisu 8:3, Movie 3:2, Sky 1:0, Free 2:0, Shuttle 1:2,Guemchi 2:0, Kal 2:0, Jaehoon 3:1

Hero's stats this month so far
ZvT: 33:63(34.3%)
ZvP: 52:30(63.4%)
ZvZ: 3:2(60%)

[b]Player Hero Played Against
ZvT - Mind 4:15, Mong 1: 9, Flash 4:11, Sea 1:5, Last 1:4, Sharp 4:6, Piano 3:4, sSak 6:6, HiyA 2:2, Ample 2:1, Shiney 2:0, Rush 3:0
ZvP - Bisu 4:11, Noble 2:1, Best 9:7, shuttle 6:4, sky 3:1,GuemChi 3:1,free 6:3, kal 4:1, Tyson 4:0, Jaehoon 11:1
ZvZ - Zero 2:1, effort 1:1

Flash's TvZ this month is 39:8 this month. Freaking 83% while Hero's zvt this month is only 33:63 (34.3%).
It won't be epic. it will be a slaughter. Only Best has notable win rate against Flash, beating flash 14:8. It was worse than this earlier this month but Flash is catching up to Best little by little.
No zerg is gonna beat Flash. His TvZ is getting better day by day. you can notice this if you watch his stream. it's freaking amazing. His weakest was TvP but hes getting back into form in TvP as well. I don't see anyone beating Flash in bo5 other than Best or Last(Last had the highest win rate in the month of March and April, well over 70% and has the second highest win rate this month behind bisu. Flash is 3rd). If it weren't for Best Flash would be first. It's funny how Last is strong against Best but weak against Bisu, but Flash is Strong against Bisu but weak against Best.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 07:29 GMT
#125
On June 23 2016 15:55 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 14:15 classicyellow83 wrote:
List of notable players that are participating in the prelims.
<Terrran>
1. Flash 2. Sea 3. Last 4. Mind
5. Sharp 6. Mong 7. sSak 8. HiyA
11. Piano 12. Rush 13. shiney 14. Icarus
15. Ample 16. Iris 17. Light

<Protoss>
1. Best 2. Shuttle 3. Kal 4. Movie
5. Free 6. Geumchi 7. sky 8. jaehoon
9. Tyson
*Free might not participate due to his wrist and his age(army).

<Zerg>
1. zero 2. hero 3. larva 4. Miso 5. Hoejja

expecting brutal prelims

Where is my name in terran list :o

Sorry.... =(
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51094 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 07:57:38
June 23 2016 07:57 GMT
#126
only BeSt and last have a winning record against flash, and with last its only 1 game so really its only BeSt, wow, just wow.

thanks for that statistics classicyellow
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 08:03 GMT
#127
On June 23 2016 16:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
only BeSt and last have a winning record against flash, and with last its only 1 game so really its only BeSt, wow, just wow.

thanks for that statistics classicyellow

no problem. sorry for my horrible posting skills. ^^;;;;;;
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 08:25 GMT
#128
Here are stats for Bisu and Last so far in June (for those of you who are interested)

Bisu
PvT : 24:13 (64.8%)
PvZ - 32:7 (82%)
PvP - 9:2 (81.8%)
Overal - 65:22 (74.7%)

Terran - Flash 3:8, sSak 2:1, HiYa 1:0, Last 4:2, Mong 2:0, Sharp 5:2, Sea 7:0

Zerg - Effort 7:2, Larva 6:0, Hero 11:4, Zero 8:1

Protss - Movie 1:2, Rock 1:0, Guemchi 1:0, Britney 1:0, Free 1:0, Shuttle 2:0, Best 2:0

Last
TvP - 46:17 (73%)
TvZ - 25:8 (75.7%)
TvT - 14:12 (53.8%)
Overall - 85:37(69.6%)

Protoss - Bisu 2:4, Guemchi 1:1, Kal 1:0, Jaehoon 3:1, Movie 3:0, Tyson 5:1, Free 5:0, Best 10:3, Shuttle 16:7

Zerg - Hero 4:1, Effort 8:4, Larva 6:2, Hero 7:1

Terran - Icarus 0:2, Mind 2:3, sSak 0:1, Sharp 2:2, Iris 3:2, FLash 1:0, HiYa 4:2, Shiney 2:0
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 08:53:16
June 23 2016 08:52 GMT
#129
Since the return of Flash, every single Terrans are copying flash's TvZ and all of the zerg's are getting destroyed by terrans.
Only Effort has winning record against Terrans with 37 win and 33 losses this month. It's seems like it's getting worse and worse everyday.

Protoss has a hard time as well. Every Zerg player is copying Hero and running over Protoss. Bisu is the only Protoss that beats zergs these days.

Terran on the other hand is doing just fine. 4 out of top 5 players this month are Terrans.

I hope it's not a TvT startleague.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 23 2016 09:05 GMT
#130
I heard it from sharps stream just now. Sharp is getting the seed.
It's also mentioned on ygosu source
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
June 23 2016 11:19 GMT
#131
Well, if Flash destroys all, he will solidify his bw god status forever u guess.
I can understand bisu discouraged by last tournaments he lost, or the need to take some air off the pressure of tournaments, maybe hes getting tired.
The real problem is, that there is not enough leagues for all the players to compete, that discourages them to practice hard and by that the overal form of the players decreaces. We need at least 3 big tournaments with 32 players per year to support somewhat healthy scene.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Connor5620
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia207 Posts
June 23 2016 12:54 GMT
#132
On June 23 2016 15:36 MarineCA1 wrote:
HerO vs Flash finals would be epic


i would rather have effort in place of hero - in turns of TvZ/ZvT skill effort is better -
where hero is better with ZvZ and ZvP (imo)
My Starcraft Youtube > https://www.youtube.com/@HomeofStarCraft
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
June 23 2016 14:11 GMT
#133
On June 23 2016 17:52 classicyellow83 wrote:
Since the return of Flash, every single Terrans are copying flash's TvZ and all of the zerg's are getting destroyed by terrans.
Only Effort has winning record against Terrans with 37 win and 33 losses this month. It's seems like it's getting worse and worse everyday.

Protoss has a hard time as well. Every Zerg player is copying Hero and running over Protoss. Bisu is the only Protoss that beats zergs these days.

Terran on the other hand is doing just fine. 4 out of top 5 players this month are Terrans.

I hope it's not a TvT startleague.


Is it because of FS or not?
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
June 23 2016 14:14 GMT
#134
On June 23 2016 20:19 _Animus_ wrote:
Well, if Flash destroys all, he will solidify his bw god status forever u guess.
I can understand bisu discouraged by last tournaments he lost, or the need to take some air off the pressure of tournaments, maybe hes getting tired.
The real problem is, that there is not enough leagues for all the players to compete, that discourages them to practice hard and by that the overal form of the players decreaces. We need at least 3 big tournaments with 32 players per year to support somewhat healthy scene.


proleague is where it is
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 23 2016 14:25 GMT
#135
My flight starts in exactly 7 hours for me -_-.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51094 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 15:07:31
June 23 2016 14:51 GMT
#136
On June 23 2016 23:14 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 20:19 _Animus_ wrote:
Well, if Flash destroys all, he will solidify his bw god status forever u guess.
I can understand bisu discouraged by last tournaments he lost, or the need to take some air off the pressure of tournaments, maybe hes getting tired.
The real problem is, that there is not enough leagues for all the players to compete, that discourages them to practice hard and by that the overal form of the players decreaces. We need at least 3 big tournaments with 32 players per year to support somewhat healthy scene.


proleague is where it is


clan wars could be possible right now, well they do happen and sometimes theres a broadcast but unless theres some money and some high profile players(actually from what I understand high profiler players do play occasionally) I don't think its very likely, although its something to communicate with organizers.

but something on the level of proleague would be impossible.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
June 23 2016 14:51 GMT
#137
On June 23 2016 23:14 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 20:19 _Animus_ wrote:
Well, if Flash destroys all, he will solidify his bw god status forever u guess.
I can understand bisu discouraged by last tournaments he lost, or the need to take some air off the pressure of tournaments, maybe hes getting tired.
The real problem is, that there is not enough leagues for all the players to compete, that discourages them to practice hard and by that the overal form of the players decreaces. We need at least 3 big tournaments with 32 players per year to support somewhat healthy scene.


proleague is where it is

proleague is best format, because new players also will get to playt, but i dont see it happening. it requires a big organisation which nobody wants to take care of.
Luv ya BroodWar!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10509 Posts
June 23 2016 17:59 GMT
#138
oh lord why is blue storm in this map pool. rip non-terrans.
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 23 2016 18:27 GMT
#139
On June 24 2016 02:59 FlaShFTW wrote:
oh lord why is blue storm in this map pool. rip non-terrans.


Rip for protoss for sure. Z and T will fly.
I remember sea.kh? Beating hero on bluestorm. It was a nice dark archon play.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 23 2016 18:53 GMT
#140
I think bisu is not going to play.
Sharp and effort are seeded players.
Accepting 7 seoul qualified players and 7 from pusan.

Here's link that someone posted about it.
m.ygosu.com
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