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If i could distribute spots, this is how i would do it:
5 Players Korea
3 Players Sweden Canada Poland Germany China USA
2 Players France Netherlands Spain Russia
1 player Finland Taiwan Bulgaria Kazakhstan Mexico Italy Ukraine Norway Romania Philipines UK Portugal Argentina Turkey Malasya Denmark Brasil Belgium Australia Czech Republic Austria Colombia Iran Equador Hungary Slovakia Puerto Rico Guatemala Peru Estonia India Latvia Lithuania Japan Vietnam India
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Norway28582 Posts
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Norway28582 Posts
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id give the usa 3 spots norway 2 sweden 3 china 3 korea 4(including boxer) canada 2 poland 2 germany 2 france 2 ntl 2 russia 2
everyone else gets 1
i dont care about any of the other places
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lol I'm sure I meant to give it at least one stop
PS: kontra eu punha ali um lugar pros estados unidos senaum ainda te banem :p
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Besides elky who the hell is good from france? that aspexs guy, or whatever? Overall I say they did a much better job this year then in years past. Only thing I really change is Kazakhstan geting 1 not 3, and Bulgaria geting 2 not 3. Then use the spots to give norway 1 or 2, and poland, and/or canada 2.
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AspeaK is a very very good Z french user imho. BunDy is kinda good too but not consistent enough most of the time.
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On June 23 2003 23:50 PoP wrote: AspeaK is a very very good Z french user imho. BunDy is kinda good too but not consistent enough most of the time. Yeah thats the dude.........This had more of a point when I thought kontra said france should get 3 spots lol.
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Poland has only one spot. : [
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ones better then none
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isnt the spots determined by sponsors in each country?
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Not only does Kontra hate USA, he hates money.
Giving Iran a spot over USA? The reason they have the spots they do is, for the thousandth time, SPONSERS.
USA has more sponsers the Iran.. -_-v
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On June 24 2003 01:00 choboPEon wrote: Not only does Kontra hate USA, he hates money.
Giving Iran a spot over USA? The reason they have the spots they do is, for the thousandth time, SPONSERS.
USA has more sponsers the Iran.. -_-v
first of all he is talking about "fair" wgt spot distribution ,meaning he's not taking sponsers into consideration. second: I'm sure he just forgot usa
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I don't think American geographic aptitude should figure into the WCG tournament at all. :p
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pretty sure they couldn't locate poland or sweden either
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korea has 3 spots, which is fair. they get the 4th because #1 wcg is seeded.
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i can locate all 7 stans on world map =P
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hm, kazakhstan got second at nationscup last year oO
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
i can locate every single country on world map
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We are all very happy for you rekrul.
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Will someone name at least three countries besides Mexico, and Canada that 99% of americans could locate on a map?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
I highly doubt 99% of Americans can even locate Canada and Mexico.
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If bush can locate iraq on the world map I guess everyone else should feel really ashamed if they can't
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Rekrul, count Macedonian neighbours. No map hack pls.
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On June 24 2003 01:51 Kobayashi wrote: If bush can locate iraq on the world map I guess everyone else should feel really ashamed if they can't ]
Lmfao, but how do you know he can?
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Poland right now has the largest non-korean communitiy of great players. I don't even feel like listing the 10 players who are of, or possibly greater then blackman caliber. The point is they should at lesat have 2-3 so that korea will be interesting.
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LOL only now i came back and saw i forgot the usa. I had to re-write the list due to explorer crash and i forgot the 2nd time. USA would deserve 3 spots too.
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why should any ONE country have more slots then the other? even if your in a crappy country ;o
equal opputunity is thnx, for sc/bw that is, i dun like the fact about the other games having the same slots as us.
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in my opinion russia should get 3 spots. and Brazil should get 2. yeah and ukraine also 2 spots
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the players on their national team on wgt r not even close to top 5 in Kazakhstan.
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[B]-500 pts : Don`t upload naked girls picture again! (c)WGT admins  .
lol xD eh man gimme these pictures ~~
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Every country participating should have 3 spots.
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well, hopefully it will change, as said in the statement "Note that these lists are definitely subject to change"
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On June 24 2003 01:04 Kobayashi wrote: Show nested quote +On June 24 2003 01:00 choboPEon wrote: Not only does Kontra hate USA, he hates money.
Giving Iran a spot over USA? The reason they have the spots they do is, for the thousandth time, SPONSERS.
USA has more sponsers the Iran.. -_-v first of all he is talking about "fair" wgt spot distribution ,meaning he's not taking sponsers into consideration. second: I'm sure he just forgot usa
the amount of sponsers is fairness, because it's not fair to just forget about money - for the organizers atleast.
oh and americans are stupid people
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it would only be fair if korea gets 1 spot and everyone else gets 3. i think they should be handicapped because theyre better.
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On June 24 2003 03:34 RickJSanchez wrote: why should any ONE country have more slots then the other? even if your in a crappy country ;o
equal opputunity is thnx, for sc/bw that is, i dun like the fact about the other games having the same slots as us.
Because they have a bigger/more skilled player base?
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wtf kontra? why you leave out australia -_-
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When WCG decides what countries will send how many players, I am sure they consider what teenage computer gamers think instead of what is a better decision financially.
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On June 24 2003 08:17 BlackJack-X17 wrote: When WCG decides what countries will send how many players, I am sure they consider what teenage computer gamers think instead of what is a better decision financially.
=] exactly.
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It's not like the sponsors are paying the Korean WCG organization money or something (well some are, but they're not American). The Korean WCG organization pays for hotel fees and the gaming area in Korea, but not for the hardware used at the national qualifiers or the plane tickets of the participants. That's were the local sponsors come in. The organizers of the national qualifiers just let Korea know how many players they'll be able to send with the money they were able to raise from sponsorships and that's how the list is made.
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Getting a high name sponser is like being sponsered yourself.
Somehow I don't think Intel will sponser an Iranian gamer over an American gamer, you know?
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IMHO 16 players should be selected in international invited-only tourney + every country gets 1 slot.
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On June 24 2003 09:31 PunkSkeleton wrote: IMHO 16 players should be selected in international invited-only tourney + every country gets 1 slot.
um. what? no? why? so only 1 person from each country gets a chance, and they didn't win any tournament for that chance and and ...
no.
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If i could distribute spots, this is how i would do it:
5 Players Korea
3 Players Sweeden Poland Germany China USA
2 Players France Netherlands Spain Russia
1 player Finland Taiwan Bulgaria Kazakhstan Mexico Italy Ukraine Norway Romania Philipines UK Portugal Argentina Turkey Malasya Denmark Brasil Belgium Czecg Republic Austria Colombia Iran Equador Hungary Slovakia Puerto Rico Guatemala Peru Estonia Hong Kong India Latvia Lithuania Japan Vietnam Pakistan India
Right on t.t
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Buh India 1 spot ? Australia 0 ?
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I think every country should get 2. That would be fair enough, right?
and SuGoSu will 0wn y0 ! =)
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if you give every country 2 spots then a top player from sweden has way less chance than a top player from Iran
what the fuck is fair about that?
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my 'list'
4 Players Korea
3 Players Poland China USA Canada
2 Players France Netherlands Spain Russia Ukraine Norway Sweden Germany Brasil
1 player Finland Taiwan Bulgaria Kazakhstan Mexico Italy Romania Philipines UK Portugal Argentina Turkey Malasya Denmark Belgium Czecg Republic Austria Colombia Iran Equador Hungary Slovakia Puerto Rico Guatemala Peru Estonia Hong Kong India Latvia Lithuania Japan Vietnam Pakistan India
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well but that would solve the problem about countries ^^. I think the best two players from each countries is fair enough. It is bad luck for them if they have many good players in their country. I mean in Counter-Strike. turkey suffered alot from that since there were 3 very good clans to go to wcg 2002, but they couldnt.
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you really have to be subjective if you wanted to make it fair
for example, bulgaria has 3 very good gamers (or had, dont know if mr.x is still playing)
sweden has some VERY good gamers and only 1 can go of the saft, willet, trek, etc group.
norway has nobody, and they have some very good gamers (honestly, slayer could probably come back tomorrow and finish top 16)
being subjective also brings a lot of criticism though (blah blah blah, we are willing to come, we should get equal opportunity, blah blah blah)
so just let the people with the money do their jobs and we will play.
there should be (if there already isnt) one stipulation. i.e. norway has no players, so those players should be allowed to go to a different country and qualify. i know in us, a foreign player cant go to national finals. this is a bit retarded, having a player fly to another country just to play a game, but it should at the very least be allowed.
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On June 24 2003 03:45 AgonyRush wrote: in my opinion russia should get 3 spots. and Brazil should get 2. yeah and ukraine also 2 spots
If Brazil had 2 spots we would send Hellghost and iGor
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Russian Federation1401 Posts
When I lived in the U.S some guy actually asked me questions like <Paris is the capitol of Europe right?> or <Madrid is in ROme?> Yeah Khazahstan is a pretty "small" country.
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Russian Federation1401 Posts
hmmm lol I did not see the rest of the threads. My quote is an answer from the first thread.
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France1270 Posts
Where the hell is Bolivia? -_-
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On June 24 2003 15:31 [pG]Liquid`Nazgul wrote: my 'list'
4 Players Korea
3 Players Poland China USA Canada
2 Players France Netherlands Spain Russia Ukraine Norway Sweden Germany Brasil
1 player Finland Taiwan Bulgaria Kazakhstan Mexico Italy Romania Philipines UK Portugal Argentina Turkey Malasya Denmark Belgium Czecg Republic Austria Colombia Iran Equador Hungary Slovakia Puerto Rico Guatemala Peru Estonia Hong Kong India Latvia Lithuania Japan Vietnam Pakistan India
haha, naz left out leg....
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why does brazil need two spots... I also think that sweden deserves three, as does the netherlands.
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who does holland have besides ret and naz that has notable skill? NTT doesn't count btw.
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I based my picks on previous results by countries
Sweden had 3 spots in 2001, of who only 1 (!!!) made it to top 16, where he went 0-2 I think (Kenka)
Netherlands last year had strafe and me, but Strafe did horrible in the groups. Brazil has Hellghost who went top 12, so they certainly deserve more than 1 spot.
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Naz u forgot about Greece
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I think HG is the only person from brazil who could compete at that level.
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Norway28582 Posts
this year is probably the year where norway has the least chance at really competing about the highest spots in wcg. and we still have the current #1 wgtour, wgtour winner 2 seasons ago, and among others yours truly. ^_^;
we should've sent 2 every year
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like i said eivy, slayer could come back tomorrow and in 2 weeks he would be top 5 outside korea (including elky grrr naz smuft etc)...your country has too many good players to not be involved
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I really think u guys underestimate Norway, we have some good players, but noone as good as sVEN and Slayer used to be though
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For the love of god somone give Australia a spot! :O
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