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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
June 23 2003 19:31 GMT
#41
On June 24 2003 01:04 Kobayashi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2003 01:00 choboPEon wrote:
Not only does Kontra hate USA, he hates money.

Giving Iran a spot over USA? The reason they have the spots they do is, for the thousandth time, SPONSERS.

USA has more sponsers the Iran.. -_-v


first of all he is talking about "fair" wgt spot distribution ,meaning he's not taking sponsers into consideration. second: I'm sure he just forgot usa


the amount of sponsers is fairness, because it's not fair to just forget about money - for the organizers atleast.

oh and americans are stupid people
:O
Shockey
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2615 Posts
June 23 2003 21:44 GMT
#42
it would only be fair if korea gets 1 spot and everyone else gets 3. i think they should be handicapped because theyre better.
La Resistance
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada20 Posts
June 23 2003 22:10 GMT
#43
shockey: agreed
Only Those Who Can See The Invisible, Can Do The Impossible
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 23 2003 22:32 GMT
#44
On June 24 2003 03:34 RickJSanchez wrote:
why should any ONE country have more slots then the other?
even if your in a crappy country ;o

equal opputunity is thnx, for sc/bw that is, i dun like the fact about the other games having the same slots as us.



Because they have a bigger/more skilled player base?

Freezer_au
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Australia1461 Posts
June 23 2003 23:09 GMT
#45
wtf kontra? why you leave out australia -_-
BlackJack-X17
Profile Joined March 2003
United States158 Posts
June 23 2003 23:17 GMT
#46
When WCG decides what countries will send how many players, I am sure they consider what teenage computer gamers think instead of what is a better decision financially.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
June 23 2003 23:41 GMT
#47
On June 24 2003 08:17 BlackJack-X17 wrote:
When WCG decides what countries will send how many players, I am sure they consider what teenage computer gamers think instead of what is a better decision financially.


=] exactly.
:O
LaptopLegacy
Profile Joined October 2002
Netherlands602 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-06-24 00:25:01
June 24 2003 00:24 GMT
#48
It's not like the sponsors are paying the Korean WCG organization money or something (well some are, but they're not American). The Korean WCG organization pays for hotel fees and the gaming area in Korea, but not for the hardware used at the national qualifiers or the plane tickets of the participants. That's were the local sponsors come in.
The organizers of the national qualifiers just let Korea know how many players they'll be able to send with the money they were able to raise from sponsorships and that's how the list is made.
Luctor et Emergo
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
June 24 2003 00:31 GMT
#49
Getting a high name sponser is like being sponsered yourself.

Somehow I don't think Intel will sponser an Iranian gamer over an American gamer, you know?
:O
PunkSkeleton
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland226 Posts
June 24 2003 00:31 GMT
#50
IMHO 16 players should be selected in international invited-only tourney + every country gets 1 slot.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
June 24 2003 01:22 GMT
#51
On June 24 2003 09:31 PunkSkeleton wrote:
IMHO 16 players should be selected in international invited-only tourney + every country gets 1 slot.


um. what? no? why? so only 1 person from each country gets a chance, and they didn't win any tournament for that chance and and ...

no.
:O
MORAGA
Profile Joined May 2003
United States323 Posts
June 24 2003 01:23 GMT
#52
If i could distribute spots, this is how i would do it:

5 Players
Korea

3 Players
Sweeden
Poland
Germany
China
USA

2 Players
France
Netherlands
Spain
Russia

1 player
Finland
Taiwan
Bulgaria
Kazakhstan
Mexico
Italy
Ukraine
Norway
Romania
Philipines
UK
Portugal
Argentina
Turkey
Malasya
Denmark
Brasil
Belgium
Czecg Republic
Austria
Colombia
Iran
Equador
Hungary
Slovakia
Puerto Rico
Guatemala
Peru
Estonia
Hong Kong
India
Latvia
Lithuania
Japan
Vietnam
Pakistan
India

Right on t.t
Moraga, California
Freezer_au
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Australia1461 Posts
June 24 2003 02:42 GMT
#53
Buh India 1 spot ? Australia 0 ?
Fever_tr
Profile Joined February 2003
Turkey222 Posts
June 24 2003 06:05 GMT
#54

I think every country should get 2. That would be fair enough, right?

and SuGoSu will 0wn y0 ! =)
Turkish National Team Leader - msg for NW
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
June 24 2003 06:26 GMT
#55
if you give every country 2 spots then a top player from sweden has way less chance than a top player from Iran

what the fuck is fair about that?

:[.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-06-24 07:08:20
June 24 2003 06:31 GMT
#56
my 'list'

4 Players
Korea

3 Players
Poland
China
USA
Canada

2 Players
France
Netherlands
Spain
Russia
Ukraine
Norway
Sweden
Germany
Brasil

1 player
Finland
Taiwan
Bulgaria
Kazakhstan
Mexico
Italy
Romania
Philipines
UK
Portugal
Argentina
Turkey
Malasya
Denmark
Belgium
Czecg Republic
Austria
Colombia
Iran
Equador
Hungary
Slovakia
Puerto Rico
Guatemala
Peru
Estonia
Hong Kong
India
Latvia
Lithuania
Japan
Vietnam
Pakistan
India
Administrator
Fever_tr
Profile Joined February 2003
Turkey222 Posts
June 24 2003 06:34 GMT
#57
well but that would solve the problem about countries ^^. I think the best two players from each countries is fair enough. It is bad luck for them if they have many good players in their country. I mean in Counter-Strike. turkey suffered alot from that since there were 3 very good clans to go to wcg 2002, but they couldnt.
Turkish National Team Leader - msg for NW
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
June 24 2003 06:35 GMT
#58
you really have to be subjective if you wanted to make it fair

for example, bulgaria has 3 very good gamers (or had, dont know if mr.x is still playing)

sweden has some VERY good gamers and only 1 can go of the saft, willet, trek, etc group.

norway has nobody, and they have some very good gamers (honestly, slayer could probably come back tomorrow and finish top 16)

being subjective also brings a lot of criticism though (blah blah blah, we are willing to come, we should get equal opportunity, blah blah blah)

so just let the people with the money do their jobs and we will play.


there should be (if there already isnt) one stipulation. i.e. norway has no players, so those players should be allowed to go to a different country and qualify. i know in us, a foreign player cant go to national finals. this is a bit retarded, having a player fly to another country just to play a game, but it should at the very least be allowed.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
[CS]Pablo
Profile Joined September 2002
Brazil338 Posts
June 24 2003 06:40 GMT
#59
On June 24 2003 03:45 AgonyRush wrote:
in my opinion russia should get 3 spots. and Brazil should get 2.
yeah and ukraine also 2 spots


If Brazil had 2 spots we would send Hellghost and iGor
There is a catenoid of idempotents in the coquaternion ring
SF-Fork
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Russian Federation1401 Posts
June 24 2003 06:42 GMT
#60
When I lived in the U.S some guy actually asked me questions like <Paris is the capitol of Europe right?> or <Madrid is in ROme?>
Yeah Khazahstan is a pretty "small" country.
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