Afreeca to sponsor 2 BW Tournaments in 2016

On January 23 2016 20:04 Probemicro wrote:


when you make an offering to god , you don't share them with mere mortals, do you?

On January 23 2016 20:15 Essbee wrote:


Jangbi starts getting good again: Fantasy does down in NSL season 3, bw is back for real.

Oh, and you heard it here first... right?

On January 23 2016 21:33 Probemicro wrote:


yeah huomao is more sc2...longzhu is where BW is at (where the vast majority of current China BW players also stream)
just watch sk911 on longzhu? i think he is good restreamer, he sponsors balloon matches for afreeca BW players before, the stream also has some passionate viewers chipping in to help cast/translate during the big games.




jangbi went to military on 21 July 2015. So don't expect to see him until mid/late 2017

On January 23 2016 20:15 Essbee wrote:


Jangbi starts getting good again: Fantasy does down in NSL season 3, bw is back for real.

Oh, and you heard it here first... right?

On January 24 2016 02:32 WrathSCII wrote:
I still Remember the "Tweet for the next SSL to have English broadcast" by OGN twitter on the SSL11 finals...

On January 24 2016 02:53 Cele wrote:


well SSL 11 was the last one becasue of the "sudden" lack of interest from SBENU to further sponsor Broodwar, instead focussing on Sc2 and Lol. (now only Lol) So, you can't blame OGN for Sebnu giving up on bw i think. I don't forsee pulling afreeca a similar stunt, simply because SC2 took such a big downswing in Korea recently, regarding all the retirements and the WCS changes.

On January 24 2016 01:39 ErectedZenith wrote:


Well let's see if OGN have any plans this year, they are splitting LCK with SpoTV this year so the time slot might allow for some BW to be thrown in.

On January 24 2016 07:12 lestye wrote:

They stopped SC2 support waaaay before SSL 11.

They focus on League of Legends, Hearthstone, VainGlory, and Heroes of the Storm, for now.

On January 24 2016 12:08 GTR wrote:


Nothing is changing in regards to their schedule. The 'split' which was agreed upon was that SpoTV can do a relay broadcast at the same time as OGN's.

And it doesn't take place until the Summer split.

On January 24 2016 12:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:

But people said OGN was very happy with how well SSL did viewer wise, etc
It seems weird that they would just drop it completely. No other sponsors interested? (RIP sbenu)

On January 24 2016 12:27 lestye wrote:

I think they were happy with the turnout, but that's different than viewership.

On January 24 2016 12:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:


also didn't SBENU pay for everything? I mean it wasn't like it was OGN's own league just that it was hosted by them.

On January 24 2016 12:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:


also didn't SBENU pay for everything? I mean it wasn't like it was OGN's own league just that it was hosted by them.

On January 25 2016 10:33 duke91 wrote:


July is the god of war, takes out Jangbi 4-0 in a bo5. You heard it here first

July vs BeSt finals rematch imo

On January 25 2016 11:26 ecnahc wrote:


oh god

edit: i just want to see light play tvz again (not on fs)

On January 26 2016 08:22 Miragee wrote:


pls no, his TvZ was almost as disgusting as ForGG's...

On January 25 2016 05:18 juvenal wrote:

I am a bw fanatic, but it kinda feels this way to me still. Look at the crowd at the last finals: 25-26yo guys on average, plus a total lack of fangirls. Sponsors, tournaments and active ex-pros are awesome, but the key for survival is young followers, of which there are very few. I'm enjoying it while it lasts, but can't help feeling like it's the late autumn for our game. The shit Sonic got his company into and the impending leave of Bisu don't help too. What we need is Flash and Jaedong destroying the Fish server once again.

ps: does anyone know if these 2 tournaments include the next VNSL, or are they a bonus? Is the next VNSL supposed to happen?

On January 27 2016 02:44 konadora wrote:
great to hear, at least there is still hope for BW

On April 22 2016 19:26 letian wrote:
good news, glad to see more BW tournaments, but we need more young players.
revive the PL!

On May 04 2016 00:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So people expected afreeca to announce their bw league after the gsl finals, they didn't :/
Anybody has any idea what happened with this?

On May 22 2016 23:36 outscar wrote:
And GSL 2 already announced but nothing about BW. Why they give hope to players and fans while they don't give a shit about BW anymore? This is pissing me off... -_-

On May 23 2016 03:48 outscar wrote:


Ah, it's you again defending as expected. What Afreeca done besides organizing one event of VNSL which sponsored by Vant 36.5? They became big company, bought Gomtv and leading GSL thanks to percentage of donations for BW pros. They just forgot their roots just like every big company else (OGN who swithec to LoL, KeSPA who gives 0 shit about BW now, Sonic who has gone greedy and started organizing SC2 SSL & Proleague). They announced they gonna host 2 tourneys - one in 1st half and 2nd in 2nd half - on January! Look how much time passed where SC2 already finished tons of tourneys. That's not normal because that's not how tournament regime works, the game will gonna die with that huge interval and halt like it was post kespa era when Sonic tried to revive it. And besides this I have my own personal reasons to shit on Afreeca. Also it's Afreeca's fault we lost one of the biggest BW VOD youtube channel. I waited so long before posting this because I was hoping that Afreeca will give a fresh start and new life to BW but still same shit.

On May 23 2016 04:45 palexhur wrote:
@Jealous, please respect the others opinion, in every thread you are defending your linear point of view and for you is the only one that exist, if he thinks that Afreeca doesnt give a shit about BW, he has the right to say so, and yes they are not making this service to BW for free, you know that Afreeca makes money from the streamers?, so it is not like: oh please everybody worship Afreeca, BW community is feeling dissapointed about not having news on these two tournaments, it gives the impression that they only care about the profit from the ex pros but not making bigger things happening for the whole scene, besides here comes this guy from Afreeca and only says vague things.

On May 23 2016 05:44 _Animus_ wrote:
Guys the first post speaks for itself.



This making me think that there should be happening a tournament already, with no news so far it looks more or less abandoned. Why making public announcements like this when no word about it after? A bit bitchy.

On May 23 2016 05:45 Jealous wrote:

Respecting another's opinion isn't just a blanket that you throw on to cover all opinions. Some opinions are less valid than others. The opinion that 1 + 1 = 3 is not valid. The opinion that Afreeca doesn't care about BW is one that falls in the "less valid" category, especially when presented in the way that he did. That is actually the crux of the matter for me; the tone in which he talks about a service that has provided and continues to provide the backbone to the very scene he says Afreeca is killing. This is why is I can respect the way you presented a similar stance.

I can understand disappointment, and I know that Afreeca has fiscal compensation. I'm not saying everyone should worship Afreeca either, but to make ignorant and disrespectful statements is a little too much for me to accept.

@Wrath: "Keep failing to understand' is a bit of a stretch considering that it wasn't brought up in my conversation with Outscar or any other conversation I've had, for that matter. I can understand the desire for an offline league, I share in it. However, that doesn't mean we have to start talking down to the very people that provide these tournaments.




http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/502705-afreeca-to-sponsor-2-bw-tournaments-in-2016?page=6#111

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Adapted quote from "A Few Good Men"

"[Afreeca] has neither the time nor the inclination to explain [it]self to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very [Brood War] that [they] provide, and then questions the manner in which [they] provide it. [They] would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, [they] suggest you pick up a [server], and [start a streaming service of your own, or donate money, or run a tournament of your own instead of crying and saying things like "bitchy" or "Afreeca doesn't care about Brood War"]. Either way, [they] don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. "

On May 23 2016 07:47 _Animus_ wrote:

hmm im doing what i can about foreign tours and its nothing i can do for (their) offline tournaments right? They doesnt appear with anything on the matter, and when someone said wtf is happening you appear calling him like crybaby. Having progamers streaming is not like having tournaments like last VNSL. If you are satisfyed to watch just streams many people including me are not, i dont find any hype in watching streams more than killing some time. BTW do you get any money from afreeca?

On May 23 2016 07:58 Jealous wrote:


To be fair you said that it was "A bit bitchy," to make an "announcement and then post no word about it after" and I promptly provided you with a post that happened less than a month ago that is on the previous page, meaning that you didn't put in the tiny amount of effort necessary to satisfy your query before you to complain and point fingers about it.

On May 23 2016 07:58 Jealous wrote:

Also, they didn't come in and just say "wtf is happening," which is a valid question, and instead shifted straight to the blame game saying "Afreeca doesn't care about BW." These are vastly different things. I already conceded that the lack of offline leagues is saddening and that I too would like another, but bitching about it on forums accomplishes nothing and only makes that poster seem like a child who didn't get his candy when he expected it.

On May 23 2016 07:58 Jealous wrote:
Lol yea Afreeca funneled some of that BW money into having me post on TL shutting down entitled people instead of investing it into an offline tournament, you got me there.

On May 23 2016 19:24 c3rberUs wrote:
If we're guaranteed 2 leagues in the future I'll take it even if it's late 2016 and in 2017. BW fighting!

Jealous, how much are they paying you?

On May 26 2016 06:52 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Apologies for being vague before, but it was the most information I had received at the time. Two more tournaments are still being planned for this year, but the second one will likely run into the beginning of next year.

On May 26 2016 07:27 duke91 wrote:
People on here are always so negative....

On May 26 2016 06:52 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Apologies for being vague before, but it was the most information I had received at the time. Two more tournaments are still being planned for this year, but the second one will likely run into the beginning of next year.

On May 26 2016 18:56 Wrath wrote:


Can he participate after the ban on stream? I know they are completely unrelated things but still... Makes me wonder.

On May 26 2016 20:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Bisu said something about disabled people and it was in such poor taste that he got banned for about a week.

On May 26 2016 20:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
really? jocks? Have you seen stork?

On May 26 2016 20:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
really? jocks? Have you seen stork?

On May 27 2016 01:52 Miragee wrote:
I think there is a missunderstanding. Could someone please explain the meaning of jock in this context? I'm confused...

On May 27 2016 05:48 Wrath wrote:


How the fuck you transition from image1 to image2?

On May 30 2016 19:19 konadora wrote:
please new maps T_T