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davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
February 23 2007 08:23 GMT
#21
On February 23 2007 04:06 [BOyGiRl]ShaRp wrote:
Before any BW finals, commentators always have interviews where they try and predict who will win. But they always do that so those are lame, and I came upon an interview of Iris and Hwasin on who they think will win in the upcoming OSL Finals.

Map 1 - Longinus 2

Yes, Savior is a "balance" breaker and he did bring up Zerg's winning percentage in this map, but nonetheless Terrans are still very confident in Longinus 2.

Hwasin thinks Savior will go with a rather drastic build such as 9 pool or 3 hat. He believes Nada will be the favorite if he keeps up his normal game and remain calm.

Iris thinks the key to the game will be early build orders. He believes if Savior doesn't gain a big advantage early in the game, Nada will win.

Map 2 - Neo Alkanoid (Spelling?)

While these two terran players feel confident about Longinus 2, they feel they are at a disadvantage in Neo Alkanoid.

Hwasin thinks unless Nada pulls some crazy shit to put Savior in a very bad position, Savior will rape Nada. He says looking at how Savior overcame early difficulties in a Neo Alkanoid game in the 3rd Superfight, Savior is the favorite for this map.

Iris also thinks Savior will win unless Nada comes with some unexpected stunt up his sleeve. He says the map is designed to the zerg's favor even if the zerg carries out a defensive game.

Map 3 - Reverse Temple

Both players think that whatever happens, RT is an "okay" map for Terrans. Therefore they predict Nada will take this map with ease.

Hwasin thinks if the game becomes a long one, Nada will win easily. He believes Terrans have the advantage in Reverse Temple.

Iris thinks likewise. He says regardless of starting positions, Terran is the favorite and it would be very hard for Savior to win.

Map 4 - HitchHiker

The two terrans believe Hitchhiker is a difficult map for terrans and Savior will beat Nada on this map.

They say if the zerg is allowed to upgrade to hive units, there is nothing the terran can do to stop his opponent. They believe in order for Nada to win, he must come prepared with an early game strat that will finish the game before Savior can go hive. They think if the terran goes the basic build order and takes nat, Nada will 100% lose.

In all, the two players predict a classic match since both players deserve to be there.

Hwasin says if Nada wants to take home the title, he must shutout Savior 3:0. If the game goes on to the 5th game, he believes Savior will be crowned champion.

Iris believes both players have a 50/50 chance of winning. And if Longinus 2 is played in the first and last match, Savior is the slight favorite.


GG


Source? It's obvious Nada is going to kick Savior's ass.
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[BOyGiRl]ShaRp
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (S)1912 Posts
February 23 2007 08:38 GMT
#22
fighterforum
Hexatron Bba!!
miyavi
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada245 Posts
February 23 2007 08:41 GMT
#23
nada will draw first blood! gogogo
NaDa for president
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
February 23 2007 10:43 GMT
#24
thank you very much, nice to hear the `losers'` opinions
davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-23 10:50:42
February 23 2007 10:50 GMT
#25
On February 23 2007 17:38 [BOyGiRl]ShaRp wrote:
fighterforum


Could you post the link?

I agree with most of what they said, and I think that the deciding match will be Hitchhiker. If Nada gets lucky, he'll be winning 2-1 and pull off the final third game on this map. He'll get his revenge one way or another.
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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-23 10:58:57
February 23 2007 10:54 GMT
#26
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Tarte
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada933 Posts
February 23 2007 11:04 GMT
#27
Thanks, nice read =],
can't wait to see this omg !
L O V E Y O U
davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
February 23 2007 11:10 GMT
#28
GG.net posted this thread on their homepage. It would be nice for someone to translate the entire interview, word-for-word. Sharp did a good job, but it isn't as professionally done as HonestTea or many of the other Korean members here would have done.
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
February 23 2007 11:31 GMT
#29
On February:10 davidgurt wrote:
GG.net posted this thread on their homepage. It would be nice for someone to translate the entire interview, word-for-word. Sharp did a good job, but it isn't as professionally done as HonestTea or many of the other Korean members here would have done.

http://www.fighterforum.com/news/news_read.asp?cat=ONG&idx=16813
this was exactly how they did it, it wasn't pieces of interviews
FConnectionUK *
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States316 Posts
February 23 2007 11:32 GMT
#30
On February 23 2007 06:18 M2 wrote:
can someone explain why T>Z on longinus? they have expand with gas, big center for flank and even that expands with the double gas which is like 2 expands in one for the zerg?


The map is stressful for a zerg for the following reasons:
-Terran may take his expansion at his will very safely considering it can be walled.
-The wall when built with 8 rack will work such as proxy barrack. Distance between the "wall" barrack and zerg's exp will be closer. Thus, bunkering can come at any given moment. If 8 rack fails, terran can STILL expand very safely.
-Once terran controls the center, its very hard for zerg to expand/defend anywhere. (This is also the reason, nydus canal is abused today by great zergs. Also, this is the reason Longinus II now gives 2 gases at the ramp exp to make better balance.)
SC:BW - NrG.fCuk // SC2 - NrGGuN
FConnectionUK *
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States316 Posts
February 23 2007 11:38 GMT
#31
The bases have 10 mineral patches. Zerg only puts 10-13 drones per bases while Toss/Terran puts around 25 for the best efficiency. As the game goes on, mineral patch doesn't affect much for zerg, but for terran and toss, it definitely gives more advantage giving them extra zealots/rines.

I heard that from a Korean commentator, the fat one.
SC:BW - NrG.fCuk // SC2 - NrGGuN
FConnectionUK *
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States316 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-23 11:54:42
February 23 2007 11:51 GMT
#32
On February 23 2007 04:06 [BOyGiRl]ShaRp wrote:
Map 2 - Neo Alkanoid (Spelling?)

While these two terran players feel confident about Longinus 2, they feel they are at a disadvantage in Neo Alkanoid.

Iris also thinks Savior will win unless Nada comes with some unexpected stunt up his sleeve. He says the map is designed to the zerg's favor even if the zerg carries out a defensive game.



LoL at Iris...

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GGPlay 17 min 32 sec Iris
306 <Units produced> 158
100 <Units Kill Count> 83
83 <Units Lost> 100
40006 <Minerals Gathered> 23950
17808 <Gas Gathered> 8592
237 <APM> 240
364 <Max APM> 397
123 <Minimum APM> 127
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GGplay ALL Multi Disrespect!

Disregard what Iris said, he can't say anything about this map. He got RAPED.
SC:BW - NrG.fCuk // SC2 - NrGGuN
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
February 23 2007 11:56 GMT
#33
I think sAviOr is pretty invincible on Neo Arkanoid. As on Hitchhiker I think NaDa should be able to take him, not sure about RT though since sAviOr is pretty good on that as well.
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
February 23 2007 13:14 GMT
#34
Thanks for the translation!

Presumably they interviewed the two semi finalists Savior beat... has the fight Iris put up added to his credibility in Korea? Are his views seen as credible in this interview?
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