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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
Check it out here: http://www.fightingspirit.nz/iccup-reranked To find your name, press Ctrl-F on your keyboard and type it in. And while you're at it, check out map statistics here: http://www.fightingspirit.nz/iccup-reranked/map Only matches from September 01, 2015 are included. More features are planned, but for now it is in a usable state. If you have any feature requests, notice any bugs, or have any feedback, let me know! | ||
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TerranZerg
Russian Federation145 Posts
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Cryoc
Germany914 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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outscar
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zimp
Hungary959 Posts
I'm surprised how balanced FS seems to be. I have 2 questions. Can you please tell us all-map statistics? I mean for all games. Is it possible to get rank-based statistics? | ||
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Ty2
United States1434 Posts
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2057 Posts
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
On January 03 2016 04:13 FyRe_DragOn wrote: this seems to greatly favor those who have only played to a low rank with a very good record. Im guessing the stats are accumulated from several seasons. I see people with 31-1 and 15-0 etc records being ranked as top with people who got A+ and olympic ranks lol. 15-0 is probaby too few games, but 31-1? These are smurfs that have most likely beat those A and S ranks in their small number of games anyway, if you only play D ranks then 15-0 definitely won't get you near S. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On January 03 2016 02:30 zimp wrote: Nice, thank you! I'm surprised how balanced FS seems to be. I have 2 questions. Can you please tell us all-map statistics? I mean for all games. Is it possible to get rank-based statistics? When you say all games, you mean 2v2 and UMS maps as well? I currently don't scrape 2v2 and UMS although I plan on doing that before the end of this season. What do you mean by rank-based statistics? On January 03 2016 04:13 FyRe_DragOn wrote: this seems to greatly favor those who have only played to a low rank with a very good record. Im guessing the stats are accumulated from several seasons. I see people with 31-1 and 15-0 etc records being ranked as top with people who got A+ and olympic ranks lol. They have to beat high ranked players to get a high rating with that low a record. Some people might be 15-0 and only have 1600 rating. Also, with few games their rating accuracy will be low (deviation high, the +/- statistic). Use the drop-down box to filter for high-accuracy ratings only. | ||
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8882
2736 Posts
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2057 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On January 03 2016 09:15 FyRe_DragOn wrote: Are the stats here just accumulated iccup stats? For example 31-1 could be a person who got c- in 2 seasons with 15-0 and 16-1 by beating D players. Is that how the system works? If so then its really just rewarding people who dont challenge themselves. The system doesn't know or care about the iCCup ranks, it only adjusts rating based on win/loss and your opponent's rating vs yours. If you play against a low-rated player and win, you will not gain many points. If a low-rated player beats a high-rated player, you will gain a LOT of points. As an example that the system takes into account the ratings of the opponents: cinmina has a rating of 1927, with a record of 287-103 hukhuk has a rating of 1796, with a record of 298-102 undo8888 has a rating of 1512, with a record of 317-110 All of these players have very similar records, but very DIFFERENT ratings because undo8888 wins and loses against worse players, but cinmina wins and loses against much better players. | ||
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iG.Arcneon
Finland333 Posts
Like.. if I understood right, if I start a new D acc, win vs B ranks 30-0 = I'm quickly top in rankings, but if I play vs A/A+ players as A/A+ myself and get like 50-60% win, I'm doing way worse right? Doesn't make any sence to me ^^ | ||
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zimp
Hungary959 Posts
On January 03 2016 07:49 Birdie wrote: When you say all games, you mean 2v2 and UMS maps as well? I currently don't scrape 2v2 and UMS although I plan on doing that before the end of this season. What do you mean by rank-based statistics? No, i mean just all 1v1 games by matchup statistics, not seperated by maps. So for all of 1v1 games, what % are different races winning? Rank-based statistics: What are the matchup statistics (TvZ, ZvP, PvT) on D rank? C rank? B? etc. Can be for FS and Python or all maps. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On January 04 2016 01:09 iG.Arcneon wrote: I don't understand what this measures though? :O Like.. if I understood right, if I start a new D acc, win vs B ranks 30-0 = I'm quickly top in rankings, but if I play vs A/A+ players as A/A+ myself and get like 50-60% win, I'm doing way worse right? Doesn't make any sence to me ^^ It measures ability to win iCCup 1v1 games  You shouldn't be doing way worse by playing vs A/A+ players, and the system doesn't care about your iCCup rank. You start with 1500 points no matter your iCCup rank. If your first game is against a high-rated player and you win one and lose one you will still get a lot of points for the win and lose not many for the loss, maybe jump to 1600 points. Do it again and you're at 1700 points! Do it again, maybe 1750 points, and so on. If you play 50 games against a 2000-rating player and win 25, lose 25, you will still gain points up to maybe 1900 at least, or higher. If you play against a 1700-rating player and win 30-0 then you should go to, say, 1800 or higher points, but not necessarily better than playing against the 2000-rating player for 50% winrate. On January 04 2016 04:33 zimp wrote: No, i mean just all 1v1 games by matchup statistics, not seperated by maps. So for all of 1v1 games, what % are different races winning? Rank-based statistics: What are the matchup statistics (TvZ, ZvP, PvT) on D rank? C rank? B? etc. Can be for FS and Python or all maps. I don't scrape the iCCup ranks at all, but I might be able to do it for ratings, e.g. 0-1500 rating might have 50% TvZ winrate and so on. I will see, it is more difficult than your first request. | ||
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zimp
Hungary959 Posts
On January 04 2016 05:50 Birdie wrote: I don't scrape the iCCup ranks at all, but I might be able to do it for ratings, e.g. 0-1500 rating might have 50% TvZ winrate and so on. I will see, it is more difficult than your first request. Thank you! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xeb4wBg.png) for comparison, here are the same statistics from somewhere around 2009-2010 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lznpmAP.png) Ratings will do just as fine, it's the same as ranks, just different name. You may even do it for your site's rankings (if it's possible), this way connecting the two features. This is to see if there are any significant imbalances on certain levels in a certain matchups. This should have been investigated a long time ago (when there were more players), but there was never such a site. Thanks again! | ||
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Atom[Bomb]
Sweden108 Posts
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Wrath
3175 Posts
I'm rank 8972 with 56 wins! WOHOO!!! | ||
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