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MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
January 02 2016 11:06 GMT
#61
On January 01 2016 21:05 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 17:09 Thouhastmail wrote:
"I`m drinking all the alcohol... My capacity of Beer is limitless."

Is Flash the next binjwa?

Hahahaha, so good!!! :D
actually, after the first five questions I thought this was April fools... Or new year fools day - old Korean tradition from Victorian times...
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
January 02 2016 11:19 GMT
#62
On January 02 2016 02:15 KrOeastbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2016 00:18 duke91 wrote:
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.


Well you need insanely good reflexes and though high apm for very few quarter of seconds. You can fuck up real hard. Definitely more demanding than SC2, though not as BW


Different skill sets. LoL has more to learn in regards to game mechanics, different champion interactions, team based strategy and co-ordination but doesn't need the same requirements in multitasking and general APM compared to BW or Sc2. One could argue that getting to the top in LoL is harder than either game however due to the larger playerbase and competition in LoL, but I wouldn't like to say for sure.




Your argument for LoL being harder would work if the foreigners are in the level of Koreans neck to neck. Otherwise it's still Koreans competing against Koreans for Top place like in BW.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-02 12:23:17
January 02 2016 12:19 GMT
#63
On January 02 2016 20:06 MrMischelito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2016 21:05 Scarecrow wrote:
On January 01 2016 17:09 Thouhastmail wrote:
"I`m drinking all the alcohol... My capacity of Beer is limitless."

Is Flash the next binjwa?

Hahahaha, so good!!! :D
actually, after the first five questions I thought this was April fools... Or new year fools day - old Korean tradition from Victorian times...


I`m not saying that self-excuse is an old Korean tradition. Rather, it`s a common courtesy regardless of the nation.

I mentioned Victorian times because it`s a byword for the age of courtesy.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 02 2016 12:20 GMT
#64
pretty good interview, thanks for the translation
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Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
January 02 2016 12:35 GMT
#65
Thank you very much! A Good read! I'd love to know even more...
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
January 02 2016 12:43 GMT
#66
I am sorry, I was just fooling around and didn't mean to offend. Thanks a lot for the translation. I greatly appreciate it.
LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-02 20:14:23
January 02 2016 20:14 GMT
#67
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 02 2016 21:02 GMT
#68
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 02 2016 22:26 GMT
#69
On January 03 2016 06:02 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~

Is this the type-b game?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 02 2016 23:32 GMT
#70
On January 03 2016 07:26 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 06:02 Chef wrote:
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~

Is this the type-b game?


No, against Jaedong. On Heartbreak Ridge, Flash builds a Barracks at 7 supply in order to get a Marine out early enough to snipe an Overlord, which was traveling along the same path every initial Overlord on HBR traveled up to that point. It pretty much decided the result of the game, since Jaedong couldn't stop the subsequent early Marine and Bunker rush having been unexpectedly supply blocked so early. This game also eliminated Jaedong from OSL after he'd won the previous two OSLs.

After that, Zerg players became more careful about Overlord scout paths, since a predictable scout path over open terrain could be studied and exploited in a big game. Similarly, Terran players became more aggressive about sending small groups of Marines to seek out Overlord kills during the early game.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 03 2016 00:36 GMT
#71
On January 03 2016 08:32 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 07:26 BigFan wrote:
On January 03 2016 06:02 Chef wrote:
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~

Is this the type-b game?


No, against Jaedong. On Heartbreak Ridge, Flash builds a Barracks at 7 supply in order to get a Marine out early enough to snipe an Overlord, which was traveling along the same path every initial Overlord on HBR traveled up to that point. It pretty much decided the result of the game, since Jaedong couldn't stop the subsequent early Marine and Bunker rush having been unexpectedly supply blocked so early. This game also eliminated Jaedong from OSL after he'd won the previous two OSLs.

After that, Zerg players became more careful about Overlord scout paths, since a predictable scout path over open terrain could be studied and exploited in a big game. Similarly, Terran players became more aggressive about sending small groups of Marines to seek out Overlord kills during the early game.

oh ok, thanks! Sounds like quite the game, must watch now lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
January 03 2016 00:52 GMT
#72
Great interview, Flash keeps his sense of humor during all of it haha

I'm looking forward to finding out whatever his next steps are, be it playing BW, opening a restaurant or doing whatever else he wants to do.


It is known that you`ve earned quite a lot.

"No.1 in BW. I think I can afford my marriage, house and future business (he said restraurant for instance.) without my parent`s help.

Baller
Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
January 03 2016 03:47 GMT
#73
On January 02 2016 20:19 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2016 02:15 KrOeastbound wrote:
On January 02 2016 00:18 duke91 wrote:
On January 01 2016 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
guys is LoL that mechanic demanding ?

always thought that bw was the most mechanical demanding game ;; ,and that he can practise only watching vods is bullsh*t,but maybe he is trolling,afterall he was the guy that invented/improved most of the builds for the terran race in the late age of bw.


Well you need insanely good reflexes and though high apm for very few quarter of seconds. You can fuck up real hard. Definitely more demanding than SC2, though not as BW


Different skill sets. LoL has more to learn in regards to game mechanics, different champion interactions, team based strategy and co-ordination but doesn't need the same requirements in multitasking and general APM compared to BW or Sc2. One could argue that getting to the top in LoL is harder than either game however due to the larger playerbase and competition in LoL, but I wouldn't like to say for sure.




Your argument for LoL being harder would work if the foreigners are in the level of Koreans neck to neck. Otherwise it's still Koreans competing against Koreans for Top place like in BW.



Good moba players play dota tho
Have a nice day ;)
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
January 03 2016 03:55 GMT
#74
It is always sad to hear that a famous Broodwar player is retiring, especially a player of FlaSh's caliber. It reminds me that life moves on, and that nothing is forever.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 03 2016 05:18 GMT
#75
On January 03 2016 08:32 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 07:26 BigFan wrote:
On January 03 2016 06:02 Chef wrote:
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~

Is this the type-b game?


No, against Jaedong. On Heartbreak Ridge, Flash builds a Barracks at 7 supply in order to get a Marine out early enough to snipe an Overlord, which was traveling along the same path every initial Overlord on HBR traveled up to that point. It pretty much decided the result of the game, since Jaedong couldn't stop the subsequent early Marine and Bunker rush having been unexpectedly supply blocked so early. This game also eliminated Jaedong from OSL after he'd won the previous two OSLs.

After that, Zerg players became more careful about Overlord scout paths, since a predictable scout path over open terrain could be studied and exploited in a big game. Similarly, Terran players became more aggressive about sending small groups of Marines to seek out Overlord kills during the early game.


I would call it one of the seminal games: Games that may not be known to be exciting, but induces a change in the meta. Similar to that, the Bisu vs Savior series were seminal as well.
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
January 03 2016 10:25 GMT
#76
What Flash didn't say was that the persons vods he's watching is his own.

Why would he need to watch anyone elses? He's perfection already.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8290 Posts
January 03 2016 13:41 GMT
#77
On January 03 2016 19:25 Qikz wrote:
What Flash didn't say was that the persons vods he's watching is his own.

Why would he need to watch anyone elses? He's perfection already.

Probably Light in TvZ or Sea in TvP
Thanks for the interview
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
January 03 2016 13:54 GMT
#78
Nice short interview!
Thanks for the translation.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 03 2016 15:31 GMT
#79
I remember the rage in the LR-thread when Flash did that ovie snipe against JD. He "ruined christmas". :D Good times.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 03 2016 16:23 GMT
#80
On January 03 2016 14:18 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 08:32 darktreb wrote:
On January 03 2016 07:26 BigFan wrote:
On January 03 2016 06:02 Chef wrote:
On January 03 2016 05:14 LuckyGnomTV wrote:
God damn, blizzard. What have you done? Your terrible game made flash retire and now hes a damn alcoholic! GOSH

Not about Blizzard, but about the new lifestyle was really my impression of the interview. Staying in bed till 12, drinking a lot. I hope that it's a short phase before he moves on to the next thing. Of course it has not been long since his retirement, so no need to go too crazy.

I rewatched the Christmas game. It's the famous 7rax that made everyone think a lot harder about making sure overlords have a safe place to run. It's fair to be proud of that one Very subtle but far reaching change.

Flash fighting~

Is this the type-b game?


No, against Jaedong. On Heartbreak Ridge, Flash builds a Barracks at 7 supply in order to get a Marine out early enough to snipe an Overlord, which was traveling along the same path every initial Overlord on HBR traveled up to that point. It pretty much decided the result of the game, since Jaedong couldn't stop the subsequent early Marine and Bunker rush having been unexpectedly supply blocked so early. This game also eliminated Jaedong from OSL after he'd won the previous two OSLs.

After that, Zerg players became more careful about Overlord scout paths, since a predictable scout path over open terrain could be studied and exploited in a big game. Similarly, Terran players became more aggressive about sending small groups of Marines to seek out Overlord kills during the early game.


I would call it one of the seminal games: Games that may not be known to be exciting, but induces a change in the meta. Similar to that, the Bisu vs Savior series were seminal as well.

It's a game that's exciting at the time, and people watching it will feel it's going to change things, but that watching in retrospect needs context to understand why it's so cool.

Brood War is lucky to have had many seminal moments pretty much every year of its professional play, and several more close to seminal moments (like upMagic's m&m vs Protoss, which only ever worked for him, or Hive tech ZvZ which was only understood by a very small number of top zergs). Mech vs Zerg, and then Zerg's broodling response months later. Those kinds of things made SC so fun to follow.
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