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On February 09 2007 05:45 SuperJongMan wrote:
Yeah, Korean netizens suck.. so take all their comments with a grain.
Netizens bring out the worst of the bias at times.
Cuz.... most are kids -_-;;
Now that brings us to Korean journalism where they often use netizens as their source.
A friend of mine does the Naver Ji-Shik-In (지식iN) shit and he admits to posting bullshit sometimes for the fun of it, usually on topics concerning penis enlargement and the likes..
Not to mention Cyberterrorism that has been an issue lately. Korea might be the only country where insults via the Internet have caused a celebrity to commit suicide.
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Osaka27105 Posts
This may sounds presumptious, but I believe the best of our korean contributors have come here because of that Korean netizen attitude. It makes me think that this place has been crafted well.
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is awesome32268 Posts
Andy is awesome, he just needs to stop being a Anytime fanboy and crying when he loses.
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United Arab Emirates5090 Posts
woa wtf after Heen translated that they're pretty bm wtf -__-
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Netherlands19124 Posts
Preach on manifesto, preach on! <3
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On February 09 2007 05:48 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2007 04:01 Heen wrote:
But don't worry, FiFo is the opposite of PGR. It's full of trash talking noobs who will never experience puberty before death. So it's the GG.net of the Korean SC community?
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
Could you enlighten me on the issue with Androide? Not that I ever liked his StarCraft, but he was kinda playing for my country and stuff.
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Is there supposed to be a picture on that site? It isn't showing for me.
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On February 09 2007 06:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
This may sounds presumptious, but I believe the best of our korean contributors have come here because of that Korean netizen attitude. It makes me think that this place has been crafted well.
Depends on the site, but FIFO is like what you guys make of GGnet. I've only skimmed a few artciles like gamer of the year and some news bits there... but the comments -_-;;
Reminds me of WGT forum or something... Something bad.
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On February 09 2007 04:43 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2007 04:20 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Uhm... DJEtterStyle posted REALLY bm shit.. he judges over gamers FAR FAR FAR above his level.. yawn, so do 99% of the sports casters on tv. Being able to watch and analyze a game is different than playing a game. Come up with some real arguments.
In my experience, a sports casting team has at least one former professional who was once performing on the level of the game he is casting. I know that is not universal but it is certainly widespread and the preference. Aside from that, BW stands apart from most sports because the brains and the performance come from the same person. Therefore it is harder to imagine that a non-player, or a bad player, can really grasp what is essential to the game. In sports, the norm is for non-players (coaches) to be the genius behind the play and the players are only as good as they can fulfill the coach's direction. It's easier to accept that a non-player understands a game at the highest level when the players themselves don't need to understand it but are simply filling roles.
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This... this is the greatest thing I have ever seen.
I just don't know what I say, but first off, I'd like to thank the Academy. I mean, they're the ones who make this sort of recognition possible. Then, of course, I have to thank my parents. All those endless singing lessons as a child--how I hated them! But now I understand that they were just preparing me to be... the Voice of the Foreigners.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
you need to mention the director, the producers, the film studio, etc (well for a movie anyway, different ppl from a singer's perspective)
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Belgium9942 Posts
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Belgium8305 Posts
this is surely worth my 3000th post
mah lil babeh.. all grown up...
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Then some guys reply that foreigners suck so they shouldn't be the ones judging T_T
I don't understand why if we are not able to play at their level that that corresponds to us not being able to talk about it. Many of us (okay all of us) are not professional athletes and cannot throw a football 80 yards with exact precision, but does that mean we cannot analyze a football game or ones performances? These are definitely the words of an arrogant Korean (just this one, not all Koreans are arrogant -- except savior  ).
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On February 09 2007 09:18 bErAtEd- wrote:Show nested quote +
Then some guys reply that foreigners suck so they shouldn't be the ones judging T_T
I don't understand why if we are not able to play at their level that that corresponds to us not being able to talk about it. Many of us (okay all of us) are not professional athletes and cannot throw a football 80 yards with exact precision, but does that mean we cannot analyze a football game or ones performances? These are definitely the words of an arrogant Korean (just this one, not all Koreans are arrogant -- except savior ).
You would still need to prove that the inexperienced that are judging football are in fact significantly knowledgable in comparison to the experienced, otherwise you have to cede the point. But don't bother, since the Koreans don't claim that nothing can be judged by the inexperienced so it's not helping your argument to bring up a counterexample to that claim. Rather, the Koreans are talking specifically about BW. I think it's self-evident that the nature of BW as a "spectator event" has no precedent and needs to be judged of itself.
My impression is that the Koreans have the correct inclination and that the foreigners are inadvertently drawing on a fallacious analogy to popular sports in order to validate themselves.
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On February 09 2007 09:42 Commentator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2007 09:18 bErAtEd- wrote:
Then some guys reply that foreigners suck so they shouldn't be the ones judging T_T
I don't understand why if we are not able to play at their level that that corresponds to us not being able to talk about it. Many of us (okay all of us) are not professional athletes and cannot throw a football 80 yards with exact precision, but does that mean we cannot analyze a football game or ones performances? These are definitely the words of an arrogant Korean (just this one, not all Koreans are arrogant -- except savior ). You would still need to prove that the inexperienced that are judging football are in fact significantly knowledgable in comparison to the experienced, otherwise you have to cede the point. But don't bother, since the Koreans don't claim that nothing can be judged by the inexperienced so it's not helping your argument to bring up a counterexample to that claim. Rather, the Koreans are talking specifically about BW. I think it's self-evident that the nature of BW as a "spectator event" has no precedent and needs to be judged of itself. My impression is that the Koreans have the correct inclination and that the foreigners are inadvertently drawing on a fallacious analogy to popular sports in order to validate themselves.
Reread your posts and wish to update what I said. If you believe that its a forum and not a public debate and needs to be judged then why do you question my argument. However I was not talking about the commentary of the ESPN commentators but more towards the daily interactions that we have with our friends, which is essentially what this message board is. I don't think I've ever stepped back during a conversation about the abilities of Peyton Manning and been like, oh but I'm not from the NFL so I can't comment on this.
One more edit: Why can't we compare it to professional sports? Is that not what the BW scene in Korea is? You have people who do something they love in front of spectators and get paid for it. Sounds pretty familiar to me.
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Canada9720 Posts
The picture in the front of the FF article doesn't load for me (tried to view it on Linux-Firefox and Windows IE/FF). Am I the only one?
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