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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
October 17 2013 14:01 GMT
#401
How did UED end?
Someone should write a history of BW c:
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
October 17 2013 14:07 GMT
#402
On October 17 2013 23:01 traceurling wrote:
How did UED end?
Someone should write a history of BW c:

dead for the most part.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
RMuSt
Profile Joined February 2011
Russian Federation181 Posts
October 17 2013 14:18 GMT
#403
don't blame dude sziky, i bet most haters here would do same thing for much less price)
i am plus
Profile Joined October 2011
United States190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 14:26:40
October 17 2013 14:26 GMT
#404
maybe if all sas members didnt quit playing bw every other week sziky wouldnt feel the need to put u all on his back.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
October 17 2013 14:27 GMT
#405
On October 17 2013 23:18 RMuSt wrote:
don't blame dude sziky, i bet most haters here would do same thing for much less price)


jealous must, sad that noone gave him money to leave ifu :must2:
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
gutshot
Profile Joined February 2011
United States429 Posts
October 17 2013 14:32 GMT
#406
I NEED TEAM AND $$

Known for : Michael(OD)/Michael[PaiN]/Cheeseking
Rank : A- high few years back
Race : Zerg
looking for an offer of $5 or higher (Subway giftcards accepted, no visa/masters etc)
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 14:35:32
October 17 2013 14:35 GMT
#407
damn wtf michal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit- you forgot [tad]michael!!
Orite
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany143 Posts
October 17 2013 15:14 GMT
#408
Michael is such a sellout, gosh.
Swarm since 2004 • www.redclan.de • ㅈㅈ
Prodigy.MvP
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada176 Posts
October 17 2013 15:41 GMT
#409
On October 17 2013 23:26 i am plus wrote:
maybe if all sas members didnt quit playing bw every other week sziky wouldnt feel the need to put u all on his back.


Bwam!!! Shots have been fired !!!!!!
im 15 years old folks!
Prodigy.MvP
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada176 Posts
October 17 2013 15:45 GMT
#410
On October 17 2013 23:32 gutshot wrote:
I NEED TEAM AND $$

Known for : Michael(OD)/Michael[PaiN]/Cheeseking
Rank : A- high few years back
Race : Zerg
looking for an offer of $5 or higher (Subway giftcards accepted, no visa/masters etc)


ye ill give u 5$, come join my team ok?
im 15 years old folks!
Terrorterran
Profile Joined January 2009
Peru256 Posts
October 17 2013 16:08 GMT
#411
On October 18 2013 00:45 Prodigy.MvP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:32 gutshot wrote:
I NEED TEAM AND $$

Known for : Michael(OD)/Michael[PaiN]/Cheeseking
Rank : A- high few years back
Race : Zerg
looking for an offer of $5 or higher (Subway giftcards accepted, no visa/masters etc)


ye ill give u 5$, come join my team ok?


I raise to 10$
GG
sas.ZaRaki
Profile Joined March 2012
Spain199 Posts
October 17 2013 17:11 GMT
#412
On October 17 2013 20:41 Sayle wrote:
That's weird. I don't remember there being nearly this much fuss when UED paid Ace to leave sas and join them. In fact, I think most people were supportive of UED and I was one of the few people who thought it was bad. Now when LRM does the same thing, shit suddenly hits the fan? O_o


Do you remember that one of the few people who tought it was bad was non other than LRM)Game?
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
October 17 2013 17:26 GMT
#413
On October 18 2013 02:11 sas.ZaRaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 20:41 Sayle wrote:
That's weird. I don't remember there being nearly this much fuss when UED paid Ace to leave sas and join them. In fact, I think most people were supportive of UED and I was one of the few people who thought it was bad. Now when LRM does the same thing, shit suddenly hits the fan? O_o


Do you remember that one of the few people who tought it was bad was non other than LRM)Game?

now that is a plot twist
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
October 17 2013 19:50 GMT
#414
On October 18 2013 02:26 Mewka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:11 sas.ZaRaki wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:41 Sayle wrote:
That's weird. I don't remember there being nearly this much fuss when UED paid Ace to leave sas and join them. In fact, I think most people were supportive of UED and I was one of the few people who thought it was bad. Now when LRM does the same thing, shit suddenly hits the fan? O_o


Do you remember that one of the few people who tought it was bad was non other than LRM)Game?

now that is a plot twist


Yeah, the short-ass memory of the BroodWar community always amazes me.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
LRM)INF3cted
Profile Joined October 2012
Bulgaria242 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 19:55:43
October 17 2013 19:53 GMT
#415
Hello , everybody.After i saw the LRM rooster i decide to play for other team (if anyone wants a newb like me) , i love LRM and i`ll awlays love the team and the players in it (LRM)Game so handsome) , but i`m a guy who always want to play for the underdogs , and playing vs the best , not side by side whit them.I think you all over reacted by this news , just enjoy the game and play whit honor.Again thanks to SBWI for this tournament.Technics/Nemu/Wallace/Doty , we gonna see each other again in the battle field brothers , and for me it will be an honor .
Play whit honor , die whit glory.
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 20:29:52
October 17 2013 20:24 GMT
#416
Sas have been somewhat overstacked for long time now.
Sas was actually two teams into one like twice.
Of course losing Sziky is always bad but remember that LRM played without trutacz, Pike etc. polish players in last team league (Gambit cup). We lost not just 1 player that was part of the team, but it felt like the team was cut in half. This is much worse than losing 1 top-notch player.

I raise to $20 for Michael. I want to talk poker with him during intensive RvR daily marathon sessions while 4tabling HU online.

Enjoy the game
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
October 17 2013 20:29 GMT
#417
On October 18 2013 04:53 LRM)INF3cted wrote:
Hello , everybody.After i saw the LRM rooster i decide to play for other team (if anyone wants a newb like me) , i love LRM and i`ll awlays love the team and the players in it (LRM)Game so handsome) , but i`m a guy who always want to play for the underdogs , and playing vs the best , not side by side whit them.I think you all over reacted by this news , just enjoy the game and play whit honor.Again thanks to SBWI for this tournament.Technics/Nemu/Wallace/Doty , we gonna see each other again in the battle field brothers , and for me it will be an honor .

Nice guy INF3cted c:
You can carry iwl
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
October 17 2013 20:46 GMT
#418
On October 18 2013 05:24 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Sas have been somewhat overstacked for long time now.
Sas was actually two teams into one like twice.
Of course losing Sziky is always bad but remember that LRM played without trutacz, Pike etc. polish players in last team league (Gambit cup). We lost not just 1 player that was part of the team, but it felt like the team was cut in half. This is much worse than losing 1 top-notch player.

I raise to $20 for Michael. I want to talk poker with him during intensive RvR daily marathon sessions while 4tabling HU online.



You know, I don't think the Polish players would've left LRM if certain eastern european players hadn't been flaming them in the SBWI Nation Wars threads.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
October 17 2013 21:48 GMT
#419
On October 18 2013 05:46 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 05:24 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Sas have been somewhat overstacked for long time now.
Sas was actually two teams into one like twice.
Of course losing Sziky is always bad but remember that LRM played without trutacz, Pike etc. polish players in last team league (Gambit cup). We lost not just 1 player that was part of the team, but it felt like the team was cut in half. This is much worse than losing 1 top-notch player.

I raise to $20 for Michael. I want to talk poker with him during intensive RvR daily marathon sessions while 4tabling HU online.



You know, I don't think the Polish players would've left LRM if certain eastern european players hadn't been flaming them in the SBWI Nation Wars threads.


It was not flaming, it was standing a well-founded ground.
Also (it feels to me) to say that a strong, well-established, with huge bw history community like the polish one decided to create their own league team just because certain european players once told something on TL or a forum, is the very least, imho, neglectful of the polish bw community.
But all that doesn't matter. What matters is what actually happened. Losing several top players understacked is far worse than losing the best player when overstacked. Ofc losing Sziky is bad, but it's not that bad.

Although if indeed certain european players wake up so strongly polish bw community, I must rethink activating my Facebook again to start flaming Draco and get him back to bw . _ . ;
Enjoy the game
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
October 17 2013 23:04 GMT
#420
On October 17 2013 22:58 GeckoXp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 20:41 Sayle wrote:
That's weird. I don't remember there being nearly this much fuss when UED paid Ace to leave sas and join them. In fact, I think most people were supportive of UED and I was one of the few people who thought it was bad. Now when LRM does the same thing, shit suddenly hits the fan? O_o


The big difference is that UED never participated in big money leagues, even though they had the chance to do though, in addition to them hosting a couple of smaller events and show matches. Granted, how they ended was not good, but until then, their manager and their roster did a lot of positive stuff.

Not saying most of the LRM Evolution players are bad, on the contrary, Bakuryu for example did a lot to help out beginners, work he rarely gets credit for. TrutaCz, TechnicS seem to be nice guys as well. However, Game's policy in leagues was always (aside from his severe cheating) in the grey area. He insists on rules, regardless of the outcome, because he seems to think "the community needs a strong, dominating team" - now compare that with different teams like reps, which members know each other real life. I'd trade the Russian's spirit and that of most other sas members against all other money driven motives any time. So yes, I found it awkward to see Ace leaving sas back then, however didn't find it as big deal, it did by no means hurt sas as much as the timing today, nor did it seem UED went over bodies to realize their goal.

It comes down to the eternal discussion if a clan should be a team of friends / long term allys or if a team should be formed out of money alone. At the moment it seems it's about money. That might be the downside of entry fees, a smaller community and some players asking for a lot of money rather than for tournaments to compete with each other.

I don't quite get Sziky's decision, but so be it, so far he never did anything to be seen negatively.


You have a nice point, but I think LRM gets too much hate for particular reasons that shadow their strengths.

On October 17 2013 23:01 traceurling wrote:
How did UED end?
Someone should write a history of BW c:


They bought all their players so 0 loyalty, and the organization couldn't keep them together long enough to participate in any leagues (They hosted a few tournaments).

On October 17 2013 23:26 i am plus wrote:
maybe if all sas members didnt quit playing bw every other week sziky wouldnt feel the need to put u all on his back.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Gambit's_Cup_3/Statistics/Round_2
Dewalt +4
Skzlime +4
Locdog +4
Draw +3
Zaraki +3
Only michael underperformed(went AWOL). Most players right now aren't as active as last TLS season because there was such a gap between events, not just sas.

On October 18 2013 05:24 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Sas have been somewhat overstacked for long time now.
Sas was actually two teams into one like twice.
Of course losing Sziky is always bad but remember that LRM played without trutacz, Pike etc. polish players in last team league (Gambit cup). We lost not just 1 player that was part of the team, but it felt like the team was cut in half. This is much worse than losing 1 top-notch player.

I raise to $20 for Michael. I want to talk poker with him during intensive RvR daily marathon sessions while 4tabling HU online.



I agree LRM had a fairly weaker team last season, but if you look at the stats: trutacz, bonyth(who wasn't on LRM) and pike had a combined +6 whereas sziky alone had +8. I also agree that the Polish players are good, but Sziky is on another level than everyone else without dispute. Along with the loss of Cute and Bizzy, we'll just see how sas can manage in comparison to LRM of last season.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
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