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eeChiama
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Argentina96 Posts
September 09 2013 23:57 GMT
#201
Never really watched broodwar, but I'm getting into it right now and can't stop watching Bisu's vods
I really hope he streams.

On September 09 2013 11:25 Shinokuki wrote:
Saw jangbi get 40,000 balloons.


May I ask what a balloon is ? I know it's related to afreeca streaming, but can't possibly imagine why it would be so important.
proud owner of the TL mousepad
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 09 2013 23:59 GMT
#202
On September 10 2013 08:57 eeChiama wrote:
Never really watched broodwar, but I'm getting into it right now and can't stop watching Bisu's vods
I really hope he streams.

Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 11:25 Shinokuki wrote:
Saw jangbi get 40,000 balloons.


May I ask what a balloon is ? I know it's related to afreeca streaming, but can't possibly imagine why it would be so important.

Balloons are donations from viewers. 1 balloon = 9 US cents, roughly. Afreeca takes a cut, so the streamer gets 70% and Afreeca gets 30%.Those 40000 balloons are 2.5k USD after Afreeca takes their cut.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
eeChiama
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Argentina96 Posts
September 10 2013 00:11 GMT
#203
Thank you Birdie, good to know.
Oh my the amount of balloons Bisu would get..
proud owner of the TL mousepad
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
September 10 2013 00:16 GMT
#204
An insider from SKT1 confirmed that "the steep decline in the number of fans had a negative effect on the motivation of players, including Bisu." He added that "regrettably, at the current state, it will become even harder for the players who still remember the glorious past to continue their progaming careers."
AleXoundOS
Profile Joined January 2011
Georgia458 Posts
September 10 2013 00:31 GMT
#205
Bisu, gogo SSL!
https://bwapi.github.io - An API for interacting with Starcraft: Broodwar (1.16.1)
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
September 10 2013 00:56 GMT
#206
Your handsomeness will be missed Bisu!
sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
September 10 2013 01:00 GMT
#207
This is so sad

Now I only have Fantasy, and I didn't even want him in the first place.

I don't follow SC2 hardly at all, but this still sucks. I hope after military Bisu will come back and stream some BW for us. He will get all my balloons, if you know what I mean.
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 10 2013 01:36 GMT
#208
On September 10 2013 10:00 sh4w wrote:
This is so sad

Now I only have Fantasy, and I didn't even want him in the first place.

I don't follow SC2 hardly at all, but this still sucks. I hope after military Bisu will come back and stream some BW for us. He will get all my balloons, if you know what I mean.

sorry, couldn't help laughing at that bolded part lol. SKT T1 fan only because of Bisu? Should be for the team. Fantasy, Bisu, Best, all great
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
September 10 2013 01:37 GMT
#209
I blame this on a certain guy not wearing a certain shirt.

Goodbye Bisu
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4212 Posts
September 10 2013 01:38 GMT
#210
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
September 10 2013 02:06 GMT
#211
On September 10 2013 07:36 OpticalShot wrote:
MY 6K POST MAN MY 6K POST
I HAD SOME SICK LOLI ANIME SHIT PLANNED
GG WP BISU

(really GG WP Bisu T_T all the good memories including losing to Shine I will remember forever)



Do it for 6009 and PM me for it, that number's more appropriate for the plan!
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
September 10 2013 02:29 GMT
#212
On September 10 2013 10:36 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 10:00 sh4w wrote:
This is so sad

Now I only have Fantasy, and I didn't even want him in the first place.

I don't follow SC2 hardly at all, but this still sucks. I hope after military Bisu will come back and stream some BW for us. He will get all my balloons, if you know what I mean.

sorry, couldn't help laughing at that bolded part lol. SKT T1 fan only because of Bisu? Should be for the team. Fantasy, Bisu, Best, all great


Initially, yes, only because of Bisu. Fantasy quickly grew on me though and is definitely my second favorite player ^_^ He's why Terran is my favorite race, and why I enjoy the TvT match up so much. But let's face it, the best part of Fantasy is making fun of him

I was looking forward to rooting for Bisu if I ever decided to give Sc2 a try, but I guess I'll have to settle for Fantasy :D (Never Flash >:O)
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 10 2013 02:49 GMT
#213
On September 10 2013 11:29 sh4w wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 10:36 BigFan wrote:
On September 10 2013 10:00 sh4w wrote:
This is so sad

Now I only have Fantasy, and I didn't even want him in the first place.

I don't follow SC2 hardly at all, but this still sucks. I hope after military Bisu will come back and stream some BW for us. He will get all my balloons, if you know what I mean.

sorry, couldn't help laughing at that bolded part lol. SKT T1 fan only because of Bisu? Should be for the team. Fantasy, Bisu, Best, all great


Initially, yes, only because of Bisu. Fantasy quickly grew on me though and is definitely my second favorite player ^_^ He's why Terran is my favorite race, and why I enjoy the TvT match up so much. But let's face it, the best part of Fantasy is making fun of him

I was looking forward to rooting for Bisu if I ever decided to give Sc2 a try, but I guess I'll have to settle for Fantasy :D (Never Flash >:O)

talk about hardcore SKT T1 fan :O Flash > fantasy. I said it
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
September 10 2013 05:08 GMT
#214
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 10 2013 07:25 OpticalShot wrote:
Drop the speculation, here comes a translation!
(shit that rhymes)
*edit: ALSO THIS WAS MY 6K POST NOOOOO BISU YOU BETTER MAKE UP FOR IT


Source: Fomos
Article by Reporter Myung-Hoon Kang
Pictures not included because go click that link above and give the poor site some traffic.

The Reasons Behind the Retirement of Bisu, the 'Revolutionist'

Immediately following the retirement of Taek-Yong 'Revolutionist' Kim (Bisu) on the 9th, many have been speculating his reasons for doing so.

While on a break after the conclusion of SK Planet StarCraft 2 Proleague 12-13 Season, Bisu confirmed that he will not continue his career as a progamer. It is truly unfortunate, but this has been somewhat expected for a while now.

When Bisu did not attend the recent progamer ethics education seminars or general events, fans have been worrying about a possible retirement. They all knew that Bisu's career was on a downhill ever since the transition from StarCraft BroodWar to StarCraft 2. Again, Bisu was nowhere to be found in the most recent SKT1 volunteer activity. No longer a rumour, Bisu has indeed retired.

To the point, what are his reasons for retirement? The first thing to come to mind is the salary negotiation. As a top star/ace who enjoyed 6-figure (in dollars) salaries before, he would have a tough time dealing with his massively deflated value. It is only natural for any player to consider retirement if he cannot handle such a downfall. However, it was confirmed with SKT1 management that all player salary/contract negotiations and renewals are typically completed by the end of September, and that they have not started the negotiations with any of their players. In other words, Bisu announced his retirement prior to any salary/contract negotiations.

If money is not the problem, then we can turn to other common themes around the retirement of old boys' of the scene: declining motivations and military service. In fact, Bisu's teammate Best announced his retirement in July, saying that "it's hard to play like before" and also acknowledging the military service obligation. Bisu's situation is not too far from Best's, which brings some understanding to his retirement reasons. Ever since the switch to SC2, Bisu has mentioned in several interviews that "motivations are hard to come by."

In the midst of the hardship, we also must acknowledge that the trademark game of Korean eSports is now League of Legends. Even without drawing comparisons, it's not hard to see that the popularity of SC2 has declined severely. After the complete transition, the stats from SK Planet SC2PL 12-13 season show a grim picture. The number of live attendees is embarrassingly low, especially for weekday matches scheduled in the Shin-do-rim center. There are supposedly a decent number of viewers online, but it doesn't even come close for the star players who enjoyed immense success and recognition from SC1. To be blunt, there is no way that another PL finals can be held in Gwang-ahn-ri with SC2.

An insider from SKT1 confirmed that "the steep decline in the number of fans had a negative effect on the motivation of players, including Bisu." He added that "regrettably, at the current state, it will become even harder for the players who still remember the glorious past to continue their progaming careers."


It's been awhile since I see you translate sth OpticalShot. I'm glad that we can say thanks for the translation again
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 10 2013 07:38 GMT
#215
Haha so basically sc2 killed esports.

Good job.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51513 Posts
September 10 2013 07:50 GMT
#216
sc2 killed itself. esports lives on through league of legends.
Commentator
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 07:58:33
September 10 2013 07:56 GMT
#217
On September 10 2013 07:25 OpticalShot wrote:
Even without drawing comparisons, it's not hard to see that the popularity of SC2 has declined severely.


I don't really understand that sentence. I always thought SC2 was never very popular in Korea to begin with, or is that wrong?

On September 10 2013 16:50 GTR wrote:
sc2 killed itself. esports lives on through league of legends.


Thank god you're GTR, an old and very respectable member of TL, or else you'd probably be tarred and feathered for this statement.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 10 2013 07:59 GMT
#218
The death of BW killed esports. It proved that a game couldn't be played professionally for an extended period of time after the profit motive for playing the game wanes.

Who will stick by SC2 or even LoL when times get tough? No one, given that BW didn't last.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
emanresU
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany393 Posts
September 10 2013 08:18 GMT
#219
On September 10 2013 07:33 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:
Thank you for that translation, Optical. Kind of cements what a lot of people have been saying about sc2 in Korea, and possibly a rebound for BW.

I would so be down for a return to brood war don't think it's gonna happen though. Maybe LotV will be more like bw.
There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things you love. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1479 Posts
September 10 2013 08:18 GMT
#220
At this rate we are going to have an SC1 scene back quite soon...
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
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