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HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
November 29 2020 10:58 GMT
#7461
http://play.afreecatv.com/julyzerg
Calendaraka Foxhan
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28705 Posts
November 29 2020 12:33 GMT
#7462
On November 29 2020 03:35 Timebon3s wrote:
How often does psionic storm tick?
If u storm something with 9 stacks of acid spores, how much dmg does it do? Thx :D


Storm does 8 x 14 damage. However, acid spores don't increase storm damage.

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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway748 Posts
November 29 2020 22:09 GMT
#7463
Ok thanks a lot
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
November 29 2020 23:52 GMT
#7464
On November 29 2020 12:03 lurkgoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2020 19:48 TelecoM wrote:
Does anyone else in USA play mostly all KR players and it is lags pretty bad almost every game? I just bought a new computer with really good specs, and I have 12 ping, 200-300 Mbps DL / 10-20 Mbps UP, Cannot make sense of this except I always get matched vs KR and they always complain about the lag.

Anyone else?

It's still a peer-to-peer game and you're 6000-8000 miles away from them. It takes time for information packets to get sent back and forth and invariably that will show up as lag.


I understand this completely, but why would someone in US match only vs KR players when it lags all the time? Don't you think the formula should be edited in matchmaking to not have Peer to Peer USA vs KR so it lags all the time?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
lzupo
Profile Joined November 2020
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-30 00:08:23
November 29 2020 23:58 GMT
#7465
--- Nuked ---
Khrane
Profile Joined April 2010
United States127 Posts
November 30 2020 00:39 GMT
#7466
On November 30 2020 08:58 lzupo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 08:52 TelecoM wrote:
On November 29 2020 12:03 lurkgoon wrote:
On November 22 2020 19:48 TelecoM wrote:
Does anyone else in USA play mostly all KR players and it is lags pretty bad almost every game? I just bought a new computer with really good specs, and I have 12 ping, 200-300 Mbps DL / 10-20 Mbps UP, Cannot make sense of this except I always get matched vs KR and they always complain about the lag.

Anyone else?

It's still a peer-to-peer game and you're 6000-8000 miles away from them. It takes time for information packets to get sent back and forth and invariably that will show up as lag.


I understand this completely, but why would someone in US match only vs KR players when it lags all the time? Don't you think the formula should be edited in matchmaking to not have Peer to Peer USA vs KR so it lags all the time?

People in here couldnt stop crying about how they wanted to be matched with koreans. Its all based on player feedback. According to them, there was NEVER lag vs Koreans


Prior to that change, about 50% of my games were tr8eh vs players globally closer to me but much laggier. At least now vs Koreans it's usually Tr16L.
lurkgoon
Profile Joined November 2020
11 Posts
November 30 2020 16:48 GMT
#7467
On November 30 2020 08:52 TelecoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2020 12:03 lurkgoon wrote:
On November 22 2020 19:48 TelecoM wrote:
Does anyone else in USA play mostly all KR players and it is lags pretty bad almost every game? I just bought a new computer with really good specs, and I have 12 ping, 200-300 Mbps DL / 10-20 Mbps UP, Cannot make sense of this except I always get matched vs KR and they always complain about the lag.

Anyone else?

It's still a peer-to-peer game and you're 6000-8000 miles away from them. It takes time for information packets to get sent back and forth and invariably that will show up as lag.


I understand this completely, but why would someone in US match only vs KR players when it lags all the time? Don't you think the formula should be edited in matchmaking to not have Peer to Peer USA vs KR so it lags all the time?

It's mostly Korean players on ladder. There are a number of factors that are taken into account when matchmaking such as physical proximity, latency, difference in rank, and length of time for queuing.

They can change one but it would affect the balance of the others. Keep in mind that there just aren't that many players queuing at any given time, especially outside of Korea. So if USA and KR weren't matched and you are a USA player, it's likely you'd have to wait a very long time to get a game and that player might be ranked far apart from you.
lurkgoon
Profile Joined November 2020
11 Posts
November 30 2020 16:51 GMT
#7468
On November 30 2020 09:39 Khrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 08:58 lzupo wrote:
On November 30 2020 08:52 TelecoM wrote:
On November 29 2020 12:03 lurkgoon wrote:
On November 22 2020 19:48 TelecoM wrote:
Does anyone else in USA play mostly all KR players and it is lags pretty bad almost every game? I just bought a new computer with really good specs, and I have 12 ping, 200-300 Mbps DL / 10-20 Mbps UP, Cannot make sense of this except I always get matched vs KR and they always complain about the lag.

Anyone else?

It's still a peer-to-peer game and you're 6000-8000 miles away from them. It takes time for information packets to get sent back and forth and invariably that will show up as lag.


I understand this completely, but why would someone in US match only vs KR players when it lags all the time? Don't you think the formula should be edited in matchmaking to not have Peer to Peer USA vs KR so it lags all the time?

People in here couldnt stop crying about how they wanted to be matched with koreans. Its all based on player feedback. According to them, there was NEVER lag vs Koreans


Prior to that change, about 50% of my games were tr8eh vs players globally closer to me but much laggier. At least now vs Koreans it's usually Tr16L.

Physical distance isn't the only factor in determining latency. Somebody farther away from you might have a better computer and connection etc and lag less as a result. There's always going to be some latency in online games, and long distance just adds to that. We're talking time frames of a small fraction of a second, but that matters a lot in a game like SC where, ideally, you want instant unit feedback.
Khrane
Profile Joined April 2010
United States127 Posts
November 30 2020 18:52 GMT
#7469
On December 01 2020 01:51 lurkgoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2020 09:39 Khrane wrote:
On November 30 2020 08:58 lzupo wrote:
On November 30 2020 08:52 TelecoM wrote:
On November 29 2020 12:03 lurkgoon wrote:
On November 22 2020 19:48 TelecoM wrote:
Does anyone else in USA play mostly all KR players and it is lags pretty bad almost every game? I just bought a new computer with really good specs, and I have 12 ping, 200-300 Mbps DL / 10-20 Mbps UP, Cannot make sense of this except I always get matched vs KR and they always complain about the lag.

Anyone else?

It's still a peer-to-peer game and you're 6000-8000 miles away from them. It takes time for information packets to get sent back and forth and invariably that will show up as lag.


I understand this completely, but why would someone in US match only vs KR players when it lags all the time? Don't you think the formula should be edited in matchmaking to not have Peer to Peer USA vs KR so it lags all the time?

People in here couldnt stop crying about how they wanted to be matched with koreans. Its all based on player feedback. According to them, there was NEVER lag vs Koreans


Prior to that change, about 50% of my games were tr8eh vs players globally closer to me but much laggier. At least now vs Koreans it's usually Tr16L.

Physical distance isn't the only factor in determining latency. Somebody farther away from you might have a better computer and connection etc and lag less as a result. There's always going to be some latency in online games, and long distance just adds to that. We're talking time frames of a small fraction of a second, but that matters a lot in a game like SC where, ideally, you want instant unit feedback.



Exactly, that's what I mean. Prior to the change, Blizzard weighed location more than latency, which made games laggier for me since a lot of South America has bad internet. Now they prioritize latency over location.
Ridovon
Profile Joined February 2020
10 Posts
December 02 2020 10:27 GMT
#7470
I haven't played Brood War for ages, but I do watch some streams from time to time. In the 'new' remastered Starcraft lobby, at the top of the screen you can select 'Ranked' and 'Ladder'. What's the difference?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28705 Posts
December 02 2020 10:28 GMT
#7471
Ranked is what you press to play ladder games, while the ladder is what you press to see the ladder standings.
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Ridovon
Profile Joined February 2020
10 Posts
December 02 2020 11:30 GMT
#7472
On December 02 2020 19:28 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Ranked is what you press to play ladder games, while the ladder is what you press to see the ladder standings.


Ah yeah that makes sense . Thanks!
Duke_nk
Profile Joined April 2020
38 Posts
December 02 2020 17:14 GMT
#7473
hero just all killed flash(t), best, larva and rush
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-06 10:43:59
December 06 2020 10:39 GMT
#7474
https://www.twitch.tv/starcraft_kr

Blizzard Triathlon 2020 is live

Korean variety streamers will be playing team showmatches across Brood War, Hearthstone, and Overwatch.

EDIT: nvm, they're just hosting a talk show / quiz today, the matches start on 10/12 at 1700KST

https://news.blizzard.com/ko-kr/blizzard/23557145/철인-3종-경기를-시청하세요-11-29-12-13

WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile162 Posts
December 07 2020 11:08 GMT
#7475
The Esports Night (TEN) on the 16th at 19:00 KST.

Flash, Best, Queen and Stork will be playing.
And it looks like it will feature 2v2 games.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8487 Posts
December 07 2020 19:24 GMT
#7476
Can someone please tell me if Mind is still in the army ?
And if it is, when he can return ?
Thank youuu
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
December 07 2020 22:27 GMT
#7477
On December 08 2020 04:24 prosatan wrote:
Can someone please tell me if Mind is still in the army ?
And if it is, when he can return ?
Thank youuu

He only joined arround the same time as jaedong so it's still arround a year left
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
December 08 2020 02:23 GMT
#7478
매
9/12/2020 1800KST

only thing to care for this month
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
December 08 2020 03:06 GMT
#7479
i hope he gets in shape very fast
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8487 Posts
December 08 2020 09:47 GMT
#7480
Thank youuuu
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
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